Miami Heat Regular Season Thread 21-22 Vol. 1

[3ammy3uck3ts]

From my understanding, before Bam was even drafted (2017) Miami was in love with his switchability. Looking at the lineup combos, I don't see much if any time with Bam and Whiteside on the court together, much like Bam and Precious last year. Miami wanting to change their ways happened when they were able to draft Bam.

What I believe is that with Bam this coaching staff saw a unique opportunity go to a full switching defense which in theory means you can go smaller at PF which "should" create more mismatches and possibly better shooting (which they've not really taken advantage of). When Precious was drafted, I didn't expect him to play with Bam and he didn't even though people wanted him to, he was to be the system's backup switchable center and now he's gone which possibly says something about the future of this current system.

With Dedmon doing so well last year for Miami at Center for a vet minimum player, maybe there is some doubt of going all switchable is the best move to build a team. They did let Precious go without having a backup locked up behind Bam. It's just going to be interesting to see how good this team can be with such a massive downgrade at center although the system possibly changes to make better use of a more traditional center.

It’s why you need a shooting center like Turner next to him. Swapping Turner for Tucker in the starting lineup would help shooting. Starting Strus or Herro in place of Robinson also helps in multiple areas. I’m definitely not trading Bam for a center unless we get back like Jokic or maybe Embiid lol. He’s better than the rest imo

Yea it’ll definitely be fun to see what they decide to do. If we want to go big I still like Turner due to his shot blocking, size, and ability to shoot but he’s not much of a rebounder. Maybe that changes in our system. Will be hard to get him. I really liked Noel coming off last season but he was quick to stay with the Knicks and has been injured majority of the season

Adding a legit starting center probably means Miami is shipping Bam out. A lot of his value is the system he allows Miami to play so going from a switchable center to being a switchable PF with no 3pt shot drops his value a lot.

[harlem_ball]

I think if you trade for Dame you can challenge the Nets if they had Kyrie. Does it give you a bigger edge on the teams that are playing this season? I'm not sure.

Dedmon
Tucker
Butler
Dame
Lowry

Pretty solid 5. I'd still give the edge to the Bucks due to Giannis being a top 3 player and if the Nets had Kyrie you would have to put them as better than Miami as well.

But Miami would be a clear #3 talent wise for the next 2-3 seasons. I'm not sure if that's enough, some more players would have to be picked up, perhaps a shooter or two. We are a complete team now with a bright future with young, exciting players. Would trading them for top talent improve the Heat situation? Look at what happened to The Lakers. Yikes.

Bam
Tucker
Butler
Robinson
Lowry

Is a pretty complete starting 5. I wish DRob would shake out of the slump...I'm seeing signs that he is.The Suns might be the blueprint to follow instead of being a top heavy team. Miami's really seems 1 more consistent shooter away from the finals right now.

[twix2500]

Personally I think its stupid to trade Dame

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What’s your reasoning?

The blazers are one piece away. Make the right move they would be a finals team. A player like Dame should retire as a Blazer. Shouldn't trade him just because the media wants trade to get views.

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[3ammy3uck3ts]

I think if you trade for Dame you can challenge the Nets if they had Kyrie. Does it give you a bigger edge on the teams that are playing this season? I'm not sure.

Dedmon
Tucker
Butler
Dame
Lowry

Pretty solid 5. I'd still give the edge to the Bucks due to Giannis being a top 3 player and if the Nets had Kyrie you would have to put them as better than Miami as well.

But Miami would be a clear #3 talent wise for the next 2-3 seasons. I'm not sure if that's enough, some more players would have to be picked up, perhaps a shooter or two. We are a complete team now with a bright future with young, exciting players. Would trading them for top talent improve the Heat situation? Look at what happened to The Lakers. Yikes.

Bam
Tucker
Butler
Robinson
Lowry

Is a pretty complete starting 5. I wish DRob would shake out of the slump...I'm seeing signs that he is.The Suns might be the blueprint to follow instead of being a top heavy team. Miami's really seems 1 more consistent shooter away from the finals right now.

Lowry would have to be traded for Dame

[harlem_ball]

I think if you trade for Dame you can challenge the Nets if they had Kyrie. Does it give you a bigger edge on the teams that are playing this season? I'm not sure.

Dedmon
Tucker
Butler
Dame
Lowry

Pretty solid 5. I'd still give the edge to the Bucks due to Giannis being a top 3 player and if the Nets had Kyrie you would have to put them as better than Miami as well.

But Miami would be a clear #3 talent wise for the next 2-3 seasons. I'm not sure if that's enough, some more players would have to be picked up, perhaps a shooter or two. We are a complete team now with a bright future with young, exciting players. Would trading them for top talent improve the Heat situation? Look at what happened to The Lakers. Yikes.

Bam
Tucker
Butler
Robinson
Lowry

Is a pretty complete starting 5. I wish DRob would shake out of the slump...I'm seeing signs that he is.The Suns might be the blueprint to follow instead of being a top heavy team. Miami's really seems 1 more consistent shooter away from the finals right now.

Lowry would have to be traded for Dame

They would prob want Bam. Doubt Lowry gets it done.

[al bondiga]

lowry tucker dipo duncan for dame??

[carnageta]

lowry tucker dipo duncan for dame??

LMAO

We don't have a shot at Dame without including 1 of Tyler / Bam (likely we need to include both).

[Flash4thewin]

Personally I think its stupid to trade Dame

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What’s your reasoning?

The blazers are one piece away. Make the right move they would be a finals team. A player like Dame should retire as a Blazer. Shouldn't trade him just because the media wants trade to get views.

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I kinda get the loyalty part. What I find interesting s what would that one piece be that would make them a finals team? I dont see the 76er trading Simmons unless the Blazers give up multiple unprotected draft picks and even then I dont think they would be a finals team.

[Shewasfly]

Dame is not going to happen. It honestly doesn't even make sense. Maybe if you only had to give up Herro and Duncan. But more likely it'll be a combo of Herro and Bam and that honestly makes us worse if we're only getting him back. Plus, what happens to Lowry in that scenario? Dame is not a SG and he'd arguably be even more a liability than Duncan on that end trying to moonlight as one.

We should think about realistic targets. Myles Turner is probably not going to happen, but he's more of a possibility AND a better fit. Fills a lot of gaps and would make us better without having to give up THAT much. A return of Kelly O would make us better, and we def could get that done without giving up too much. Maybe even keep Duncan if we're willing to give up Gabe and Caleb (that'd be hard for me, I love Caleb at this point).

Another option for a big is Valanciunass from the Pelicans. Other than getting smacked and Zion being a fat ass, the Pelicans aren't making any headlines or going anywhere. He could possibly be shaken loose.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Ingram with 40 tonight in an L to the rockets lol he may be traded

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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Next to Lowry Jimmy and Bam?! He’d be a very nice fit

[3ammy3uck3ts]

I’m posting Lillard and Ingram stuff because those are some for the guys I’ve seen speculated this last week

[Kobewade11]

Ingram with 40 tonight in an L to the rockets lol he may be traded

40 and L to the Rockets = empty calories

[puppa bear]

I’m posting Lillard and Ingram stuff because those are some for the guys I’ve seen speculated this last week

100% would be down with both of that’s coming in. But the two biggest issues I see are:
1. we don’t have the draft capital for PDX, since they’d be going nuclear if they traded Dame (unless it was something like a Dame for Herro/Simmons type deal with Lowry going to Philly)
2. NOP has no incentive to deal BI unless Zion says he wants him out. If they are thinking tank they just “load manage” BI & others. If they’re thinking all in, then they only trade BI for a win-now upgrade (which is not a package of Robinson & Herro).

[3ammy3uck3ts]

I’m posting Lillard and Ingram stuff because those are some for the guys I’ve seen speculated this last week

100% would be down with both of that’s coming in. But the two biggest issues I see are:
1. we don’t have the draft capital for PDX, since they’d be going nuclear if they traded Dame (unless it was something like a Dame for Herro/Simmons type deal with Lowry going to Philly)
2. NOP has no incentive to deal BI unless Zion says he wants him out. If they are thinking tank they just “load manage” BI & others. If they’re thinking all in, then they only trade BI for a win-now upgrade (which is not a package of Robinson & Herro).

That’s actually a good idea including Simmons in that deal in a 3 team trade. All sides are happy

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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Shams putting Lillard news out today. I don’t have access because I’m not subscribed but looks like things are heating up.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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Also says if he remains in Portland he’d like to play with Ben Simmons

[3ammy3uck3ts]

It’s been known since this summer Lillard wants to play with a fast athletic big (Bam). Simmons fits that mold so that makes sense.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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Lmao!!

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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No clue who this guy is but he’s verified lol