Anthony Davis settling? Look at Lebron's current stats

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Re: Anthony Davis settling? Look at Lebron's current stats 

Post#21 » by Lalouie » Mon Dec 6, 2021 6:32 pm

there's no better evidence that the 3s turns players into woosies

3s are an easy way out with a bonus of being analytically encouraged
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Post#22 » by Woodsanity » Mon Dec 6, 2021 6:53 pm

Lalouie wrote:there's no better evidence that the 3s turns players into woosies

3s are an easy way out with a bonus of being analytically encouraged

The biggest problem is Lebron is a sub-par 3 point shooter but he doesn't have much of a choice he has 20 years of mileage already.
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Post#23 » by LesGrossman » Mon Dec 6, 2021 6:57 pm

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LesGrossman wrote:Never let the flow of excuses end for htis guy. Same guys who find a trillion excuses will claim he is in the running for MVP


What excuses? That he is old and can't take his guy off the dribble consistently? People who call everything an "excuse" may not understand the meaning of the word.

Its fine and natural that an older guy slows down a bit. Most are actually retired at his age.

As i said, the problem comes when we dont discuss him as aging 3rd or 4th option but in other context pretend he is still the Lakers' best player, their #1 option, the best player in the league and in the running for MVP and DPOY. Guys gotta pick and follow through with it
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Re: Anthony Davis settling? Look at Lebron's current stats 

Post#24 » by jazzfan1971 » Mon Dec 6, 2021 7:03 pm

I dunno, every time I see lebron's stat line it looks good to me. Ad too.

I think a better analysis would be on the Lakers defense than on lebron's shot selection.
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Post#25 » by KyRo23 » Mon Dec 6, 2021 7:08 pm

LesGrossman wrote:
KyRo23 wrote:
LesGrossman wrote:Never let the flow of excuses end for htis guy. Same guys who find a trillion excuses will claim he is in the running for MVP


What excuses? That he is old and can't take his guy off the dribble consistently? People who call everything an "excuse" may not understand the meaning of the word.

Its fine and natural that an older guy slows down a bit. Most are actually retired at his age.

As i said, the problem comes when we dont discuss him as aging 3rd or 4th option but in other context pretend he is still the Lakers' best player, their #1 option, the best player in the league and in the running for MVP and DPOY. Guys gotta pick and follow through with it


You're making stuff up to be upset about lol no one is saying this. Literally no one.
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Post#26 » by LesGrossman » Mon Dec 6, 2021 7:22 pm

KyRo23 wrote:
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KyRo23 wrote:
What excuses? That he is old and can't take his guy off the dribble consistently? People who call everything an "excuse" may not understand the meaning of the word.

Its fine and natural that an older guy slows down a bit. Most are actually retired at his age.

As i said, the problem comes when we dont discuss him as aging 3rd or 4th option but in other context pretend he is still the Lakers' best player, their #1 option, the best player in the league and in the running for MVP and DPOY. Guys gotta pick and follow through with it


You're making stuff up to be upset about lol no one is saying this. Literally no one.

Noone says he should be in the MVP consideration? Have you not seen the poll in this very forum? Lets see what bigbird says.
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Post#27 » by KyRo23 » Mon Dec 6, 2021 7:26 pm

LesGrossman wrote:
KyRo23 wrote:
LesGrossman wrote:Its fine and natural that an older guy slows down a bit. Most are actually retired at his age.

As i said, the problem comes when we dont discuss him as aging 3rd or 4th option but in other context pretend he is still the Lakers' best player, their #1 option, the best player in the league and in the running for MVP and DPOY. Guys gotta pick and follow through with it


You're making stuff up to be upset about lol no one is saying this. Literally no one.

Noone says he should be in the MVP consideration? Have you not seen the poll in this very forum? Lets see what bigbird says.


I can confidently say that not one person, even bigbird has said he should be in the MVP talk this year. Maybe last year, because I mean he was until his injury.
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Post#28 » by nikster » Mon Dec 6, 2021 7:31 pm

LesGrossman wrote:
KyRo23 wrote:
LesGrossman wrote:Its fine and natural that an older guy slows down a bit. Most are actually retired at his age.

As i said, the problem comes when we dont discuss him as aging 3rd or 4th option but in other context pretend he is still the Lakers' best player, their #1 option, the best player in the league and in the running for MVP and DPOY. Guys gotta pick and follow through with it


You're making stuff up to be upset about lol no one is saying this. Literally no one.

Noone says he should be in the MVP consideration? Have you not seen the poll in this very forum? Lets see what bigbird says.

You mean the MVP thread where Lebron isn't even listed as an option and nobody is discussing him as a reasonable alternative?

If you can't find anybody but 1 person you already know to be a Stan claiming he is MVP, the problem is made up
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Post#29 » by Lalouie » Mon Dec 6, 2021 7:34 pm

Woodsanity wrote:
Lalouie wrote:there's no better evidence that the 3s turns players into woosies

3s are an easy way out with a bonus of being analytically encouraged

The biggest problem is Lebron is a sub-par 3 point shooter but he doesn't have much of a choice he has 20 years of mileage already.


it's not the choice over time. it's simply a choice of the easier of the two and reflective of the 3shot and the type of player it's creating.

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Post#30 » by LesGrossman » Mon Dec 6, 2021 7:42 pm

nikster wrote:
LesGrossman wrote:
KyRo23 wrote:
You're making stuff up to be upset about lol no one is saying this. Literally no one.

Noone says he should be in the MVP consideration? Have you not seen the poll in this very forum? Lets see what bigbird says.

You mean the MVP thread where Lebron isn't even listed as an option and nobody is discussing him as a reasonable alternative?

If you can't find anybody but 1 person you already know to be a Stan claiming he is MVP, the problem is made up

Nice story bro. Care to take a look here? https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=2141649

7 guys (4%) think he is currently the best player in the league. 27 other guys (15%) think he is top 5 in a league taht also has Curry, KD, Giannis, Joker, Embiid, Luka, Harden, AD, Lillard playing.
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Post#31 » by Yeggo Poleggo » Mon Dec 6, 2021 7:48 pm

Bron decline only supports why KAJ is the true GOAT.
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Post#32 » by KyRo23 » Mon Dec 6, 2021 7:54 pm

LesGrossman wrote:
nikster wrote:
LesGrossman wrote:Noone says he should be in the MVP consideration? Have you not seen the poll in this very forum? Lets see what bigbird says.

You mean the MVP thread where Lebron isn't even listed as an option and nobody is discussing him as a reasonable alternative?

If you can't find anybody but 1 person you already know to be a Stan claiming he is MVP, the problem is made up

Nice story bro. Care to take a look here? https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=2141649

7 guys (4%) think he is currently the best player in the league. 27 other guys (15%) think he is top 5 in a league taht also has Curry, KD, Giannis, Joker, Embiid, Luka, Harden, AD, Lillard playing.


Not you making a big stink over 4% lol. I'm about to vote as #1 so you can have another meltdown.
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Post#33 » by dhsilv2 » Mon Dec 6, 2021 7:55 pm

LesGrossman wrote:
nikster wrote:
LesGrossman wrote:Noone says he should be in the MVP consideration? Have you not seen the poll in this very forum? Lets see what bigbird says.

You mean the MVP thread where Lebron isn't even listed as an option and nobody is discussing him as a reasonable alternative?

If you can't find anybody but 1 person you already know to be a Stan claiming he is MVP, the problem is made up

Nice story bro. Care to take a look here? https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=2141649

7 guys (4%) think he is currently the best player in the league. 27 other guys (15%) think he is top 5 in a league taht also has Curry, KD, Giannis, Joker, Embiid, Luka, Harden, AD, Lillard playing.


https://www.forbes.com/sites/trevornace/2018/04/04/only-two-thirds-of-american-millennials-believe-the-earth-is-round/?sh=596f5e0c7ec6

Here's a study showing only 84% of people have always believed the earth is round. In this poll 82% believe Lebron isn't a top 5 player. I think we can all agree that everyone sane thinks lebron is outside the top 5.
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Post#34 » by Rendei » Mon Dec 6, 2021 7:57 pm

KyRo23 wrote:He has settled during the regular season for some time. Granted, he usually did it while still maintaining a high seed, but I think last season made him realize especially that it's better to just make it to the playoffs healthy then to go all out for a higher seed. He just can't do it for 82 games anymore lol he's old as ****.

I'm not sure he's doing a good job of staying healthy either. He's missed half of their games so far.
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Post#35 » by Lalouie » Mon Dec 6, 2021 7:57 pm

this is why they brought in westbrook and while everyone aknowledges it they still question the move. westbrook will embrace the workload.

guys like hield won't. shooters just shoot
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Post#36 » by KyRo23 » Mon Dec 6, 2021 7:59 pm

Rendei wrote:
KyRo23 wrote:He has settled during the regular season for some time. Granted, he usually did it while still maintaining a high seed, but I think last season made him realize especially that it's better to just make it to the playoffs healthy then to go all out for a higher seed. He just can't do it for 82 games anymore lol he's old as ****.

I'm not sure he's doing a good job of staying healthy either. He's missed half of their games so far.


This is true. Trying and succeeding are different in this case. I'd rather him do what he's doing while trying to stay healthy because I can't imagine him going full throttle at the rim and being hurt literally every game.
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Post#37 » by LukaTheGOAT » Mon Dec 6, 2021 8:36 pm

Yeggo Poleggo wrote:Bron decline only supports why KAJ is the true GOAT.


Kareem's age 37 he averaged 22 points per game, although he played in 79 games during the RS. On a per-possession basis Lebron is better at this point in time.
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Post#38 » by nikster » Mon Dec 6, 2021 9:46 pm

dhsilv2 wrote:
LesGrossman wrote:
nikster wrote:You mean the MVP thread where Lebron isn't even listed as an option and nobody is discussing him as a reasonable alternative?

If you can't find anybody but 1 person you already know to be a Stan claiming he is MVP, the problem is made up

Nice story bro. Care to take a look here? https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=2141649

7 guys (4%) think he is currently the best player in the league. 27 other guys (15%) think he is top 5 in a league taht also has Curry, KD, Giannis, Joker, Embiid, Luka, Harden, AD, Lillard playing.


https://www.forbes.com/sites/trevornace/2018/04/04/only-two-thirds-of-american-millennials-believe-the-earth-is-round/?sh=596f5e0c7ec6

Here's a study showing only 84% of people have always believed the earth is round. In this poll 82% believe Lebron isn't a top 5 player. I think we can all agree that everyone sane thinks lebron is outside the top 5.

thank you, totally unreasonable to expect anymore agreement than that
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Post#39 » by dhsilv2 » Mon Dec 6, 2021 9:58 pm

LukaTheGOAT wrote:
Yeggo Poleggo wrote:Bron decline only supports why KAJ is the true GOAT.


Kareem's age 37 he averaged 22 points per game, although he played in 79 games during the RS. On a per-possession basis Lebron is better at this point in time.


Kareem was 4th in MVP voting and won the finals MVP (For the little that thing is worth). I have no idea how any of this makes kareem better or worse than lebron, but just saying...Kareem had a pretty solid age 37 season.
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Post#40 » by Heej » Mon Dec 6, 2021 10:06 pm

Gonna need more context as far as the lineups in the game when he's taking these kinds of shots. I've seen compelling evidence online from Cranjis that the primary driver for LeBron's non-aggressiveness is an overly packed paint. But context and GB mixes like oil and water lol
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