Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - Nwora in protocols

[skones]

Laps for those who insisted that Merrill and Nwora could do Bryn Forbes better than Bryn Forbes last year plz n thnx.

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

final pj theory. dont laugh at it. its absolutely possible.

portis said hed resign for peanuts but made us promise tuckers ass was out of the front court. portis made us choose.

last year he was behind tucker on the depth chart when it mattered and dont forget he literally didnt play against brooklyn. allen and ddv coming back those backcourt minutes were gone. i could see portis telling management hed come back for the deal he did if he was gauranteed not to compete with frontcourt minutes with tucker.

yeah yeah yeah sure hes gonna get backup center minutes but if im portis and im looking out at the floor pissed about whose in front of him getting minutes it starts and ends with pj.

isnt it even weird we brought in NO frontcourt help to start the season? like literally mamu thats it?

anyway...just a thought but i could see a scenario where portis gave an ultimatum. he would have been turning down starters roles elsewhere

holiday/hill
allen/ddv/pat
middleton/pat/tucker
giannis/tucker/portis
lopez/giannis/portis

thats a 10 man playoff rotation with everybody healthy. if tucker comes back its not rocket science that either portis or tucker just simply doesnt even play. there is no chance portis takes that chance on the deal he just signed

[Bernman]

A couple months before the trade deadline. This gives Donte a chance to reestablish value.

A starting caliber 3/4 role player is still the biggest hole on the roster. Outside of pulling off a steal, dangling Donte was the only way acquiring one. And it's probably worth it less for us than most other teams to extend him.

Mamu at least looks like an NBA player the last couple of games. We'll see how that plays out. I'd be more than happy w/ using him as trade bait, but there'd have to be takers to get something real in return.

[jschligs]

I think we will move Donte before the deadline. I think Grayson showing how useful he is, us signing Wes as a back up, and Patty's play makes Donte more expendable. That and he's due a payday. Question is, what will we get back?

[crkone]

FYI Donte is just going to the Herd to get practice reps. He won't be in a game since they don't have a game until the 12th.

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

sign cousins and wes.
ddv back.
and lopez out indefinitely after announced back surgery

id say my ongoing epic bitchfest about roster status and injury updates is officially over

[JimmyTheKid]

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[ReasonablySober]

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[MartyConlonOnTheRun]

A couple months before the trade deadline. This gives Donte a chance to reestablish value.

A starting caliber 3/4 role player is still the biggest hole on the roster. Outside of pulling off a steal, dangling Donte was the only way acquiring one. And it's probably worth it less for us than most other teams to extend him.

Mamu at least looks like an NBA player the last couple of games. We'll see how that plays out. I'd be more than happy w/ using him as trade bait, but there'd have to be takers to get something real in return.

BL
GA/Portis
KM/Pat
Allen
Jrue/Hill

IDK I don't think PJ takes minutes from any of those guys. I think we have enough guys in the 3/4 mold but really short at the guard and center

[MartyConlonOnTheRun]

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I'm confused. They had DDV and Nwora drive to Osh Kosh to practice a few hours? Or is this some kind of loop hole to allow them to practice in Milwaukee without having an official team practice?

[skones]

A couple months before the trade deadline. This gives Donte a chance to reestablish value.

A starting caliber 3/4 role player is still the biggest hole on the roster. Outside of pulling off a steal, dangling Donte was the only way acquiring one. And it's probably worth it less for us than most other teams to extend him.

Mamu at least looks like an NBA player the last couple of games. We'll see how that plays out. I'd be more than happy w/ using him as trade bait, but there'd have to be takers to get something real in return.

If Donte is just starting to ramp up practice reps, I'd assume he's still at least two or three weeks away from a return.

[Bernman]

If Donte is just starting to ramp up practice reps, I'd assume he's still at least two or three weeks away from a return.

Even if that somewhat pessimistic outlook is true, it would be good enough.

[chonestown]

If Donte is just starting to ramp up practice reps, I'd assume he's still at least two or three weeks away from a return.

Above projection coincides with a White Donte Christmas. Rejoice!

[Bernman]

BL
GA/Portis
KM/Pat
Allen
Jrue/Hill

IDK I don't think PJ takes minutes from any of those guys. I think we have enough guys in the 3/4 mold but really short at the guard and center

PJ would take plenty of minutes from those guys just out of fit. It's not about him for me, rather the role of being able to guard big wings, while not taking own legs away for offense, and aid in rebounding.

Middleton shouldn't be guarding the likes of Durant, Lebron/Kawhi, Butler, etc. And he's better offensively at the 2. Can shoot over defenders. Covers our 2-guard spot. We're stacked there, even w/out Donte.

At 1, it's not ideal, but we already have Jrue, & Hill's significantly better than Teague. Could get a 3rd option on the buyout market.

As for center, Portis can play it and complements Giannis beautifully because of Bobby's shooting, while Giannis can aid in rim protecting. Same goes for Cousins, who's looked fine since his arrival.

We also have a hole in terms of matching up against smaller, quicker 4's. They could also play that position in the small ball lineup next to Giannis. Now we're playing Middleton at the 4 in those. It's rough. Rudy Gay would have fit this mold much better.

That's our glaring need. We're good enough in the other areas to contend for another championship.

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

to all the guys suggesting were gonna move ddv....

whose more valuable moving forward... ddv or patc?

if one must go we should remember that next year the money could be the same for either on the open market.

[jute2003]

PP gotta eat some crow on that one.

PP is a reactionary pot stirrer. He is a good mod but people need to ignore his prognostications.

[EastSideBucksFan]

final pj theory. dont laugh at it. its absolutely possible.

portis said hed resign for peanuts but made us promise tuckers ass was out of the front court. portis made us choose.

last year he was behind tucker on the depth chart when it mattered and dont forget he literally didnt play against brooklyn. allen and ddv coming back those backcourt minutes were gone. i could see portis telling management hed come back for the deal he did if he was gauranteed not to compete with frontcourt minutes with tucker.

yeah yeah yeah sure hes gonna get backup center minutes but if im portis and im looking out at the floor pissed about whose in front of him getting minutes it starts and ends with pj.

isnt it even weird we brought in NO frontcourt help to start the season? like literally mamu thats it?

anyway...just a thought but i could see a scenario where portis gave an ultimatum. he would have been turning down starters roles elsewhere

holiday/hill
allen/ddv/pat
middleton/pat/tucker
giannis/tucker/portis
lopez/giannis/portis

thats a 10 man playoff rotation with everybody healthy. if tucker comes back its not rocket science that either portis or tucker just simply doesnt even play. there is no chance portis takes that chance on the deal he just signed

The story is much simpler from what I've heard

Bucks did not expect Portis to return and all but expected to reach a deal with PJ

When Bobby said he'd come back at a number that Bucks could manage, they had to make the choice on PJ and went with the younger and cheaper Bobby.

[skones]

If Donte is just starting to ramp up practice reps, I'd assume he's still at least two or three weeks away from a return.

Even if that somewhat pessimistic outlook is true, it would be good enough.

I don't think it's particularly pessimistic. He tore a ligament in his foot and we haven't had any real reports of him even practicing with the team. They've either kept it super super buttoned up, or we're starting the ramp up now. Two to three weeks may even be optimistic. But who knows.

On another note, I DO think it's humorous many here have taken the, "JESUS STFU AND STOP THE LEAKS" during draft and trades, and at the same time are like, "GIVE ME A TIMETABLE IMMEDIATELY" when it comes to these injuries.

[MVP2110]

final pj theory. dont laugh at it. its absolutely possible.

portis said hed resign for peanuts but made us promise tuckers ass was out of the front court. portis made us choose.

last year he was behind tucker on the depth chart when it mattered and dont forget he literally didnt play against brooklyn. allen and ddv coming back those backcourt minutes were gone. i could see portis telling management hed come back for the deal he did if he was gauranteed not to compete with frontcourt minutes with tucker.

yeah yeah yeah sure hes gonna get backup center minutes but if im portis and im looking out at the floor pissed about whose in front of him getting minutes it starts and ends with pj.

isnt it even weird we brought in NO frontcourt help to start the season? like literally mamu thats it?

anyway...just a thought but i could see a scenario where portis gave an ultimatum. he would have been turning down starters roles elsewhere

holiday/hill
allen/ddv/pat
middleton/pat/tucker
giannis/tucker/portis
lopez/giannis/portis

thats a 10 man playoff rotation with everybody healthy. if tucker comes back its not rocket science that either portis or tucker just simply doesnt even play. there is no chance portis takes that chance on the deal he just signed

The story is much simpler from what I've heard

Bucks did not expect Portis to return and all but expected to reach a deal with PJ

When Bobby said he'd come back at a number that Bucks could manage, they had to make the choice on PJ and went with the younger and cheaper Bobby.

The way I've always thought about it was the owners gave Horst a budget for the year and he could probably operate within that budget how he chose to. My guess is he chose to pursue the Allen trade and Hill signing over retaining PJ

[raferfenix]

The story is much simpler from what I've heard

Bucks did not expect Portis to return and all but expected to reach a deal with PJ

When Bobby said he'd come back at a number that Bucks could manage, they had to make the choice on PJ and went with the younger and cheaper Bobby.

Appreciate the intel!

Do we know if there had to be a choice between PJ and Portis though?

If Bobby insisted on more minutes and would have chafed at Tucker taking some of those it'd be different than if it wasn't mutually exclusive, and the Bucks just changed how they valued PJ after Bobby surprisingly decided to run it back.