Simmons Trade Thread - The Ocho

[the_process]

Is the consensus that Simons is more desirable than Little?

Yes, that certainly seems to be the case.

There's no way Morey goes from CJ, 3 1sts, and 3 swaps down to CJ, Simons, and one 1st straight up though.

The picks are not worth much to this team. We are not rebuilding. If the Trailblazers are willing to trade dame for Simmons then we do the deal but CJ contract will get awful quick. He is not a max guy getting paid max money and who disappears in the playoffs. We already have Harris for that role.

I would assume a three team deal.

[ankle420breaker]

CJ apparently just started following Seth, Joel, Tobias, Thybulle, Maxey Jalen Hurts, and others on IG.

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How do you know he just started following them?

Again-- not sure how credible any of this is

https://thebrandedsports.com/2021/12/06/cj-mccollums-instagram-indicates-potential-sixers-trade/

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[Tony Franciosa]

Yes, that certainly seems to be the case.

There's no way Morey goes from CJ, 3 1sts, and 3 swaps down to CJ, Simons, and one 1st straight up though.

The picks are not worth much to this team. We are not rebuilding. If the Trailblazers are willing to trade dame for Simmons then we do the deal but CJ contract will get awful quick. He is not a max guy getting paid max money and who disappears in the playoffs. We already have Harris for that role.

I would assume a three team deal.

or the picks could be more ammo in, say, a Tobias deal.

[Sixerscan]

The picks are not worth much to this team. We are not rebuilding. If the Trailblazers are willing to trade dame for Simmons then we do the deal but CJ contract will get awful quick. He is not a max guy getting paid max money and who disappears in the playoffs. We already have Harris for that role.

I would assume a three team deal.

or the picks could be more ammo in, say, a Tobias deal.

Yeah it would basically allow you to do the Harden-type trade offer using Tobias (or CJ or Curry+Green or whoever) as basically the filler, without actually losing all of your picks. Not a direct A to B "here's your contending team" but it's a path. I'm not in love with this trade or anything but I do think there's a level of picks where you have to give it real thought.

Also, CJ is not on a max contract. His max would be like $10 million higher than what he's making now. He's the 30th highest paid player in the NBA next year, then the following year is the last year of his deal.

[Kobblehead]

Is this really happening? Kinda exciting tbh. McCollum ain't great, but he can ball. Please get Greg Brown. I promise you Greg Brown is going to be incredible.

[Kobblehead]

Is the consensus that Simons is more desirable than Little?

I'd imagine so.

Personally, I don't think Little offers anything on either end other than size and athleticism. Doesn't bring any defined skills or traits to the table on offense or defense.

The tricky thing with Simons is that he's due an extension soon and he'd be our 4th munchkin. Not sure if we want to be that small. I'd wonder if Maxey would be heading out to Portland or a third team.

[cool93]

CJ sucks. If it's not something like CJ + 3 picks|3 swaps, I'll puke in my mouth, cause we aren't winning **** with Tobias and CJ as 2-3 "stars"

[Kobblehead]

McCollum is the right kind of offensive player to pair with Embiid. He's an elite fit. I absolutely think we can get to the ECF with that duo. And if we can move Harris for a player in the same tier that fits a little better (Jerami Grant), we'd be a legit title threat.

[blargh]

Is the consensus that Simons is more desirable than Little?

I'd imagine so.

Personally, I don't think Little offers anything on either end other than size and athleticism. Doesn't bring any defined skills or traits to the table on offense or defense.

The tricky thing with Simons is that he's due an extension soon and he'd be our 4th munchkin. Not sure if we want to be that small. I'd wonder if Maxey would be heading out to Portland or a third team.

Kind of feel like you’d have to move Curry instead in that scenario, son-in-law be damned. His game is more redundant with CJ. Selling high on him right now to a contender at the deadline would probably be a nice return.

[GutUNC]

CJ takes 8 to 9 threes a game, I don't see how he's comparable to Tobias.

"Sure, they're both non-All Star players who can score but are never stars, are vastly overpaid but really well respected people, can put up sizable offensive numbers but struggle to get others involved and are minuses defensively......but one takes more 3s! NO COMPARISON AT ALL!"

[Black Mage]

Portland is over a barrel but that trade is high robbery by Presti.

Simmons don't come cheap. I wouldn't move Simmons for CJ unless it came with Simons, 2 swaps, and 2 picks; AND I can then take that package and move it elsewhere for something good. That's what that is. POR also gets Thybulle to make them feel a little better about it. Pac12 guy and all.

If it's robbery for OKC, then they shouldn't hesitate to pull the trigger.

I wonder if the Pelicans would be interested in something like:

CJ/Simons a Portland Pick and a Swap, Milton for Ingram.

[Stanford]

"Sure, they're both non-All Star players who can score but are never stars, are vastly overpaid but really well respected people, can put up sizable offensive numbers but struggle to get others involved and are minuses defensively......but one takes more 3s! NO COMPARISON AT ALL!"

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[Kobblehead]

CJ takes 8 to 9 threes a game, I don't see how he's comparable to Tobias.

"Sure, they're both non-All Star players who can score but are never stars, are vastly overpaid but really well respected people, can put up sizable offensive numbers but struggle to get others involved and are minuses defensively......but one takes more 3s! NO COMPARISON AT ALL!"

so one guy that fits and one guy that doesn't fit.

why are you having trouble recognizing the distinction and realizing how big a deal that is?

[Iverson Armband]

CJ sucks. If it's not something like CJ + 3 picks|3 swaps, I'll puke in my mouth, cause we aren't winning **** with Tobias and CJ as 2-3 "stars"

Did you forget Simmons isn’t any good either and doesn’t want to play here? Please, don’t forget those two small, irrelevant factoids

[blargh]

Portland is over a barrel but that trade is high robbery by Presti.

Simmons don't come cheap. I wouldn't move Simmons for CJ unless it came with Simons, 2 swaps, and 2 picks; AND I can then take that package and move it elsewhere for something good. That's what that is. POR also gets Thybulle to make them feel a little better about it. Pac12 guy and all.

If it's robbery for OKC, then they shouldn't hesitate to pull the trigger.

I wonder if the Pelicans would be interested in something like:

CJ/Simons a Portland Pick and a Swap, Milton for Ingram.

If so, they’ll just deal directly with Portland. No one is holding up and complicating the deal just to land Shake Milton, and our pick swap would be worthless to them.

[Kobblehead]

I'm not sure Morey values Ingram the same way some fans do. He saw him all the time as a Laker basically playing the opposite way Morey wants his scorers playing. And now with no Zion forcing him to space the floor, Ingram is getting back to being mid-range heavy again.

[Black Mage]

Simmons don't come cheap. I wouldn't move Simmons for CJ unless it came with Simons, 2 swaps, and 2 picks; AND I can then take that package and move it elsewhere for something good. That's what that is. POR also gets Thybulle to make them feel a little better about it. Pac12 guy and all.

If it's robbery for OKC, then they shouldn't hesitate to pull the trigger.

I wonder if the Pelicans would be interested in something like:

CJ/Simons a Portland Pick and a Swap, Milton for Ingram.

If so, they’ll just deal directly with Portland. No one is holding up and complicating the deal just to land Shake Milton, and our pick swap would be worthless to them.

Simmons is more in line with what Lillard needs/wants than Ingram.

[GutUNC]

CJ takes 8 to 9 threes a game, I don't see how he's comparable to Tobias.

"Sure, they're both non-All Star players who can score but are never stars, are vastly overpaid but really well respected people, can put up sizable offensive numbers but struggle to get others involved and are minuses defensively......but one takes more 3s! NO COMPARISON AT ALL!"

so one guy that fits and one guy that doesn't fit.

why are you having trouble recognizing the distinction and realizing how big a deal that is?

I didn't say they were identical twins, I said they were players with very similar profiles. Having one aspect of their game that is different doesn't change that.

[JRoy]

Is this really happening? Kinda exciting tbh. McCollum ain't great, but he can ball. Please get Greg Brown. I promise you Greg Brown is going to be incredible.

He reminds me of Mo Harkless a little bit. Maybe a better version of Mo.

[Kobblehead]

Is this really happening? Kinda exciting tbh. McCollum ain't great, but he can ball. Please get Greg Brown. I promise you Greg Brown is going to be incredible.

He reminds me of Mo Harkless a little bit. Maybe a better version of Mo.

Body-wise, athletically, and defensively, I think they're very similar. I think what makes Brown special is his shooting. I think he ultimately has a chance to be what Jerami Grant has been for Detroit.

Watch on YouTube

Him going blow for blow against Cunningham.