Damian Lillard Would Like Portland To Trade For Ben Simmons

[FrodoFraggins]

If the sixers do trade simmons its going to be for you dumbass.

lol is that you Morey? Simmons ain't getting you Lillard.

[Pickled Prunes]

Yep, he sure does.

Only a 76ers fan would feel that way at this point. Simmons will put a ceiling on any team he joins. I mean, POR needs to trade two of their starting guards and get longer... but SIMMONS IS NOT THE ANSWER. Just look to the Lakers as an example of how players' opinions can be skewed. Lillard is wrong about this.

I would rather see POR blow it up than trade for Simmons.... at least then there is some hope! Judging by your moniker, you know about hope. And right now your hope is that PHI can get something like CJ back in a trade for Simmons. (Lillard is more pipe dream than hope.) My hope is that your hopes go unfulfilled, at least from a POR perspective.

I have no hope for CJ. Barely any interest in your negative asset, in fact. However, if he comes attached with other things that can be used to get another player… well then I’m listening.

I am aware you do not like Simmons, so you can leave it at that if you like.

It's not about liking or not liking Simmons. It's about POR being out of options and needing to rebuild. Sending out future picks to acquire a player on a long contract that won't solve their problems would be foolish. I really want POR to rebuild already... but that means trading for picks and youth. There might be 10-15 players in the NBA that could partner with Dame and contend. Simmons isn't one of them. In fact, POR has no shot at getting any of them. If they want to trade two of Dame, CJ and Powell to bring back an All-NBA wing I'm all in. (Not that I think it likely) But they need to hang onto their picks for when that inevitably fails to bring a chip.

It's more about knowing that Dame isn't good enough to be the best player on a championship team... so what would be the point?

[kio80]

CJ is twice the player Simmons is.

Then you talk about salaries... I don't get the Simmons hype. He plays defense, but also had Embiid behind him and excellent defenders around him. He disappeared when it mattered and is supremely flawed as a primary ballhandler.

Ummm you do realize that I agree, don’t you?

We see that, couple of dumb and dumbers


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[the_process]

Only a 76ers fan would feel that way at this point. Simmons will put a ceiling on any team he joins. I mean, POR needs to trade two of their starting guards and get longer... but SIMMONS IS NOT THE ANSWER. Just look to the Lakers as an example of how players' opinions can be skewed. Lillard is wrong about this.

I would rather see POR blow it up than trade for Simmons.... at least then there is some hope! Judging by your moniker, you know about hope. And right now your hope is that PHI can get something like CJ back in a trade for Simmons. (Lillard is more pipe dream than hope.) My hope is that your hopes go unfulfilled, at least from a POR perspective.

I have no hope for CJ. Barely any interest in your negative asset, in fact. However, if he comes attached with other things that can be used to get another player… well then I’m listening.

I am aware you do not like Simmons, so you can leave it at that if you like.

It's not about liking or not liking Simmons. It's about POR being out of options and needing to rebuild. Sending out future picks to acquire a player on a long contract that won't solve their problems would be foolish. I really want POR to rebuild already... but that means trading for picks and youth. There might be 10-15 players in the NBA that could partner with Dame and contend. Simmons isn't one of them. In fact, POR has no shot at getting any of them. If they want to trade two of Dame, CJ and Powell to bring back an All-NBA wing I'm all in. (Not that I think it likely) But they need to hang onto their picks for when that inevitably fails to bring a chip.

It's more about knowing that Dame isn't good enough to be the best player on a championship team... so what would be the point?

I'm with you from a fan perspective.

What do you think Blazer management will do? Since your ownership doesn't even like the sport, don't you find it likely they will kowtow to their star player to make sure the tickets keep being sold?

[Rashidi]

Just got to shoot love to KCP. He's still starting and started for a championship team.

Whoops you're right; forgot he isn't behind Beal.

[NBA Moses]

Interesting leak. Lillard + Simmons are both ball dominating PG's and BS was pretty useless with Sixers when occasionally taken out of that role.He is lost without the ball.At least with Joel clogging up the paint.

Perhaps Portland views him in a Giannis like role where he attacks the rim. Simmons has that ability(56% career FG %) using speed,crafty ball handling instead of Giannis's power. And Simmons defense helps Portland tenfold.

To those questioning Bens value. Sixers have a career .675 winning percentage with Ben + Joel. When Ben is out of the lineup Sixers are sub .500. Simmons impact is real. Hes a force and could be incredible in the right system.

I think he needs his own team where you build around him but the Portland thing with Lillard could work.

[Pickled Prunes]

I have no hope for CJ. Barely any interest in your negative asset, in fact. However, if he comes attached with other things that can be used to get another player… well then I’m listening.

I am aware you do not like Simmons, so you can leave it at that if you like.

It's not about liking or not liking Simmons. It's about POR being out of options and needing to rebuild. Sending out future picks to acquire a player on a long contract that won't solve their problems would be foolish. I really want POR to rebuild already... but that means trading for picks and youth. There might be 10-15 players in the NBA that could partner with Dame and contend. Simmons isn't one of them. In fact, POR has no shot at getting any of them. If they want to trade two of Dame, CJ and Powell to bring back an All-NBA wing I'm all in. (Not that I think it likely) But they need to hang onto their picks for when that inevitably fails to bring a chip.

It's more about knowing that Dame isn't good enough to be the best player on a championship team... so what would be the point?

I'm with you from a fan perspective.

What do you think Blazer management will do? Since your ownership doesn't even like the sport, don't you find it likely they will kowtow to their star player to make sure the tickets keep being sold?

Attendance in POR has never been a problem. The Blazers are the areas only major sports franchise. The Blazers own the sellout record for all major league sports at 814 games (1977-1995). They have since had streaks of 195 and 125 and were on another long streak (several years) before covid. I also don't think Jody Allen cares about attendance. I don't think she could spend all her money in 20 lifetimes.

Besides, POR has a knowledgeable fan base so I think most fans will understand a rebuild, particularly if it's short. They'll show up enough to keep them in the black.

What do I thing management will do? Well, it would help if POR had a GM, but hopefully the new GM will be brought in to do something like this:

Trade Lillard, CJ, Nurkic, Nance and Covington, prioritizing picks, rookie scale prospects and smaller value contracts, in that order. Build around Powell, Little and Simmons for now. In the next season or two, when Powell inevitably starts averaging around 24 ppg as the center of the offense, trade him. The rebuild would already be underway, but trading Powell would be the final step backwards.

To answer your question though: Who knows WTF these morons will do. Sometimes is good to have an owner that doesn't mind losing for a bit. Paul Allen historically overpaid for mediocre players. He refused to take a step back. Jody Allen doesn't seem to care, so that's good.

[Pickled Prunes]

Interesting leak. Lillard + Simmons are both ball dominating PG's and BS was pretty useless with Sixers when occasionally taken out of that role.He is lost without the ball.At least with Joel clogging up the paint.

Perhaps Portland views him in a Giannis like role where he attacks the rim. Simmons has that ability(56% career FG %) using speed,crafty ball handling instead of Giannis's power. And Simmons defense helps Portland tenfold.

To those questioning Bens value. Sixers have a career .675 winning percentage with Ben + Joel. When Ben is out of the lineup Sixers are sub .500. Simmons impact is real. Hes a force and could be incredible in the right system.

I think he needs his own team where you build around him but the Portland thing with Lillard could work.

Simmons is not a PG and he isn't ball dominant. I know he's listed as a PG but is USG% was like 7th or 8th on PHI last season. His USG% went down in the playoffs. Simmons gets his assists by making quick 2nd passes. He rarely holds the ball.

I don't think anybody questions Simmons' value. But I think he was in the right system in PHI. There is no team in the league that he could be traded to where he would be more effective than with Joel behind him and shooters all around.... and that din't work. Which situation in the NBA is better for him? Not POR, SAC or MIN. He might be in a better situation with the Warriors, simply because they're the Warriors. But they might be less than they are now because of what they would need to send out. I just don't see a trade that lands Simmons in a better spot than he's leaving.

PHI did not put a ceiling on what Simmons is capable of; Simmons put a ceiling on what PHI is capable of.