Anthony Davis settling? Look at Lebron's current stats

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Re: Anthony Davis settling? Look at Lebron's current stats 

Post#61 » by dickfox » Tue Dec 7, 2021 9:08 pm

The guy has earned the right to settle all he wants in the regular season. It's unfair but the other guys have to step up.
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Re: Anthony Davis settling? Look at Lebron's current stats 

Post#62 » by madmaxmedia » Tue Dec 7, 2021 9:10 pm

LesGrossman wrote:
KyRo23 wrote:
LesGrossman wrote:Never let the flow of excuses end for htis guy. Same guys who find a trillion excuses will claim he is in the running for MVP


What excuses? That he is old and can't take his guy off the dribble consistently? People who call everything an "excuse" may not understand the meaning of the word.

Its fine and natural that an older guy slows down a bit. Most are actually retired at his age.

As i said, the problem comes when we dont discuss him as aging 3rd or 4th option but in other context pretend he is still the Lakers' best player, their #1 option, the best player in the league and in the running for MVP and DPOY. Guys gotta pick and follow through with it


Half of what you said is still true though-
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Re: Anthony Davis settling? Look at Lebron's current stats 

Post#63 » by trickshot » Tue Dec 7, 2021 9:16 pm

phanman wrote:Something that is being overlooked is the guys that make up the Lakers starting unit. He begins the game with essentially 3-4 guys who are struggling or don't shoot 3's normally:

Struggling Davis 18.8% on 2.1 3pa
Struggling Bazemore 30.8% on 2.5 3pa
Nonshooter Westbrook: 32% on 4.3 3pa
Nonshooter THT: 25.6% on 3.5 3pa
Nonshooter DJ

I mean when Westbrook is the second most consistent shooter, someone's got to space the floor. I mean 23/34 of his 3pt makes are assisted.

Bazemore was taken out of the starting lineup a month ago. Anyway as you correctly pointed out it's not just one thing. AD has played a lot of his career with a non-shooting center, AD has also played with non-shooting pointguards (Rondo). What is really hurting him this year is the accumulation of a traditional big and two non-shooting guards. Westbrook's percentages are almost irrelevant because they have no spacing value when AD is concerned. 3 of Westbrook's 4 3p attempts a game are wide open. Teams almost always welcome a Westbrook 3 over letting AD work in single coverage. It's too much to overcome.
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Re: Anthony Davis settling? Look at Lebron's current stats 

Post#64 » by Loneshot » Tue Dec 7, 2021 9:18 pm

Godymas wrote:Lakers really should've ran it back..last years roster was perfect for LeBron and the way he's aging. That way he just runs the floor with a bunch of elite role players and AD can go to work.

Last years Lakers were seriously on fire until LeBron got injured. Without injuries they were the favorites. Why after a set of injuries a team lacks the resiliency to run it back? Why is there such mental weakness inside the locker room? Maybe because they won a championship and still traded all their important guys like Danny Green and Javale McGee. Look at Javale on PHX now, he's seriously doing amazing stuff. Dwight is actually trash now, Lakers center rotation has been ruined, but at least they got WB who doesn't want to play with a center anyways.

No idea what's going on in that front office, rebuilding so drastically every single year and losing tons of key glue guys all the time, it's not a good look.


The front office is validating criticism that the title in the bubble doesn't count or was a fluke year. The front office have been terrible the last decade really, LeBron just bailed out the Lakers before people noticed that this once great franchise was riding along Kobe's work ethic and pride, but failed to have any of it's own. They stay trying to buy championships and trades, sacrificing their future potential for quick trips to a title.
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Re: Anthony Davis settling? Look at Lebron's current stats 

Post#65 » by dlts20 » Tue Dec 7, 2021 9:38 pm

The problem with the Bron is the same exact thing I said a couple of weeks ago when saying that Luka is similar to Tatum in that they take a lot of difficult shots. I said that Luka, Tatum, and Kobe may be good shooters but if you take a ton of inefficient shots then your percentage will be lower. Guys like KD and Booker are great shooters but they also 90 percent of the time take normal shots. Lebron half the time is taking logo 3s, step back 3s,fade away 3s. Only the rare few like curry can do that successfully, consistently
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Re: Anthony Davis settling? Look at Lebron's current stats 

Post#66 » by Dmagic » Tue Dec 7, 2021 9:46 pm

trade ad for sabonis or randle or both yea? throw in a mccullum for tht
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Re: Anthony Davis settling? Look at Lebron's current stats 

Post#67 » by Badlands » Wed Dec 8, 2021 12:07 am

For perspective, the highest scoring average a 19th year player has ever had is Kareem at 14.6, followed by Stockton at 10.8 and Duncan at 8.6. Lebron is currently averaging 25.6.

Of course, Lebron came into the league a few years younger than most players, but he's got an incredible amount of miles on him.
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Re: Anthony Davis settling? Look at Lebron's current stats 

Post#68 » by bbalnation » Wed Dec 8, 2021 1:33 am

Badlands wrote:For perspective, the highest scoring average a 19th year player has ever had is Kareem at 14.6, followed by Stockton at 10.8 and Duncan at 8.6. Lebron is currently averaging 25.6.

Of course, Lebron came into the league a few years younger than most players, but he's got an incredible amount of miles on him.


At 37 (which Lebron is turning later this season i believe?):

Karl Malone: 23.2
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar: 22
Julius Erving: 20.2 (16 games dang)
Kobe Bryant: 17.6
John Havlicek: 16
Tim Duncan: 15.1

https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/most-ppg-for-a-37-year-old

Noteworthy (with the Wizards):

At 38:
Michael Jordan: 22.9

At 39:
Michael Jordan: 20

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jordami01.html

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