2021-22 Season Discussion and Speculation

[ImNotMcDiSwear]

James Jones ain't trading Cam or Crowder, ever, until he's forced to.

And wtf would we do without Cam Payne? We'd wear out Booker or CP3 by the second round without him.

Maybe Saric because we've gone on this winning streak without him, and Saric doesn't really shore up our weaknesses against Golden State or the Bucks.

Let's pull back the day dreams, plz, at least until we're on a multiple game losing streak.

Trade Cam or Crowder? That would be **** stupid

Agreed.

Both of them fit this team like a glove, play hard, have bought into the system, and their shooting is essential to our offense.

I'm just tired of the dumb day dreamy stuff here, this was just the most blatant example. We're contending NOW, let's enjoy it, and hype up our guys, not try to Danny Ainge every malcontent potential trade target.

There's a middle ground. I think we could really use another 2/3. Another lengthy defender (playing any position) who could hit an open 3 would be nice. But I can't even think of one we could nab, so I don't have anything to suggest.

I have no doubt we'll add another player close to the deadline or in the buyout market. But in any case, we're likely to wait in case an injury hits and we need to fill a major need.

Kind of pointless to discuss trades right now, since we're not looking to make an even trade, but rather a trade in which we receive talent and the other team receives draft considerations and/or salary relief. And at this point there are only 4 teams that are completely out of the playoff race: Orlando, Detroit, Houston and OKC. What realistic targets exist among those teams? We've discussed why Christian Wood isn't a rough fit. That leaves... Mo Bamba if Javale gets injured? Doubt it. Josh Jackson? I bet Olynyk would be pricey... Danuel House? For Smith, a SRP and pile of cash, maybe? Don't think it's worth it, as he won't be moving any needles. But that's all I see from those four rosters.

That's about all the rosterbation I can stomach for now. Though I will admit I briefly daydreamed about picking up TJ Warren for a playoff run the other night. Pure fantasy for lots of reasons - too many to list.

[BobbieL]

Let the Sabonis to teh Warriors for Wiseman plus rumors start in 3,2 ..

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[BobbieL]

Trade Cam or Crowder? That would be **** stupid

Agreed.

Both of them fit this team like a glove, play hard, have bought into the system, and their shooting is essential to our offense.

I'm just tired of the dumb day dreamy stuff here, this was just the most blatant example. We're contending NOW, let's enjoy it, and hype up our guys, not try to Danny Ainge every malcontent potential trade target.

There's a middle ground. I think we could really use another 2/3. Another lengthy defender (playing any position) who could hit an open 3 would be nice. But I can't even think of one we could nab, so I don't have anything to suggest.

I have no doubt we'll add another player close to the deadline or in the buyout market. But in any case, we're likely to wait in case an injury hits and we need to fill a major need.

Kind of pointless to discuss trades right now, since we're not looking to make an even trade, but rather a trade in which we receive talent and the other team receives draft considerations and/or salary relief. And at this point there are only 4 teams that are completely out of the playoff race: Orlando, Detroit, Houston and OKC. What realistic targets exist among those teams? We've discussed why Christian Wood isn't a rough fit. That leaves... Mo Bamba if Javale gets injured? Doubt it. Josh Jackson? I bet Olynyk would be pricey... Danuel House? For Smith, a SRP and pile of cash, maybe? Don't think it's worth it, as he won't be moving any needles. But that's all I see from those four rosters.

That's about all the rosterbation I can stomach for now. Though I will admit I briefly daydreamed about picking up TJ Warren for a playoff run the other night. Pure fantasy for lots of reasons - too many to list.

I am focusing more on the buyout market. I did come up with a couple trades using Smith if a team wanted to take a flier on him (Sato or Augustin)

But I think the Suns are waiting to see if Thad YOung, who really is not in the SPurs long term plans, gets bought out.

Buyout players I see are
Dragic
Gary Harris
Maybe Sato and Augustin
Thad YOung..

but thats a couple months away

[WeekapaugGroove]

Let the Sabonis to teh Warriors for Wiseman plus rumors start in 3,2 ..

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Well either Sabonis or Turner make a ton of sense for GS so yeah I'd say you're right that there will be smoke.

*** Before anyone asks, no I do not think either Turner or Sabonis would be good fits with Ayton.

It's amazing it only cost the suns a 2nd to get Indi to eat Warrens deal . I kid I kid... but only somewhat. These past two years of him not playing why he didn't have trade value a few years ago. Good player horrible medical history.

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[BobbieL]

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Well either Sabonis or Turner make a ton of sense for GS so yeah I'd say you're right that there will be smoke.

*** Before anyone asks, no I do not think either Turner or Sabonis would be good fits with Ayton.

It's amazing it only cost the suns a 2nd to get Indi to eat Warrens deal . I kid I kid... but only somewhat. These past two years of him not playing why he didn't have trade value a few years ago. Good player horrible medical history.

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I didn't come up with the Sabonis to Warriors - some guy on ESPN did But it makes a lot of sense for both teams

The Warriors probably could use a better player for their team at the 5. Especially offensively. Dray seems to do okay against Ayton and other bigs in the West. And even Looney as a back up

For the Pacers - they would get Wiseman, probably Kominga or Moody . Though the player they should really try for is Poole over Kominga or Mooday. Wiseman is a given for cap reasons plus getting size - but Poole is a good player. WArriors probably still do the trade as they know they have a certain window - especially if Klay is back.


Bright Side had an article today about getting Thad Young - but again, if the Spurs do not take SAric - there is not a trade. Suns probably need to add a FRP (since the Thunder are probably getting the Suns pick in 2022) - but I think I wait for the buyout market.

[WeekapaugGroove]

Let the Sabonis to teh Warriors for Wiseman plus rumors start in 3,2 ..

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Well either Sabonis or Turner make a ton of sense for GS so yeah I'd say you're right that there will be smoke.

*** Before anyone asks, no I do not think either Turner or Sabonis would be good fits with Ayton.

It's amazing it only cost the suns a 2nd to get Indi to eat Warrens deal . I kid I kid... but only somewhat. These past two years of him not playing why he didn't have trade value a few years ago. Good player horrible medical history.

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I didn't come up with the Sabonis to Warriors - some guy on ESPN did But it makes a lot of sense for both teams

The Warriors probably could use a better player for their team at the 5. Especially offensively. Dray seems to do okay against Ayton and other bigs in the West. And even Looney as a back up

For the Pacers - they would get Wiseman, probably Kominga or Moody . Though the player they should really try for is Poole over Kominga or Mooday. Wiseman is a given for cap reasons plus getting size - but Poole is a good player. WArriors probably still do the trade as they know they have a certain window - especially if Klay is back.


Bright Side had an article today about getting Thad Young - but again, if the Spurs do not take SAric - there is not a trade. Suns probably need to add a FRP (since the Thunder are probably getting the Suns pick in 2022) - but I think I wait for the buyout market.

Yeah I'd also wait to see how the buy out market looks. Hell Thad might be bought out it SA can't find a deal they like.


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[ImNotMcDiSwear]

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Well either Sabonis or Turner make a ton of sense for GS so yeah I'd say you're right that there will be smoke.

*** Before anyone asks, no I do not think either Turner or Sabonis would be good fits with Ayton.

It's amazing it only cost the suns a 2nd to get Indi to eat Warrens deal . I kid I kid... but only somewhat. These past two years of him not playing why he didn't have trade value a few years ago. Good player horrible medical history.

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I didn't come up with the Sabonis to Warriors - some guy on ESPN did But it makes a lot of sense for both teams

The Warriors probably could use a better player for their team at the 5. Especially offensively. Dray seems to do okay against Ayton and other bigs in the West. And even Looney as a back up

For the Pacers - they would get Wiseman, probably Kominga or Moody . Though the player they should really try for is Poole over Kominga or Mooday. Wiseman is a given for cap reasons plus getting size - but Poole is a good player. WArriors probably still do the trade as they know they have a certain window - especially if Klay is back.


Bright Side had an article today about getting Thad Young - but again, if the Spurs do not take SAric - there is not a trade. Suns probably need to add a FRP (since the Thunder are probably getting the Suns pick in 2022) - but I think I wait for the buyout market.

Sabonis on the Warriors gives me shivers. That team would beat us. And I mean, they'd whoop our little asses. Because Sabonis is freaking legit. As good or better than Ayton.

No way they'd give up Poole, nor should the Warriors consider it. They're contenders and Poole is useful to them now. The Pacers are rebuilding and should accept the high-upside tank commanders. Exchanging Poole is a net-negative from a value perspective.

Would we consider trading for Brogdon to be a super-sixth man? Doesn't matter since the Pacers wouldn't.

... And as far as Thad Young goes, I watched that man play last night. Pass.

[spanishninja]

Well either Sabonis or Turner make a ton of sense for GS so yeah I'd say you're right that there will be smoke.

*** Before anyone asks, no I do not think either Turner or Sabonis would be good fits with Ayton.

It's amazing it only cost the suns a 2nd to get Indi to eat Warrens deal . I kid I kid... but only somewhat. These past two years of him not playing why he didn't have trade value a few years ago. Good player horrible medical history.

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I didn't come up with the Sabonis to Warriors - some guy on ESPN did But it makes a lot of sense for both teams

The Warriors probably could use a better player for their team at the 5. Especially offensively. Dray seems to do okay against Ayton and other bigs in the West. And even Looney as a back up

For the Pacers - they would get Wiseman, probably Kominga or Moody . Though the player they should really try for is Poole over Kominga or Mooday. Wiseman is a given for cap reasons plus getting size - but Poole is a good player. WArriors probably still do the trade as they know they have a certain window - especially if Klay is back.


Bright Side had an article today about getting Thad Young - but again, if the Spurs do not take SAric - there is not a trade. Suns probably need to add a FRP (since the Thunder are probably getting the Suns pick in 2022) - but I think I wait for the buyout market.

Sabonis on the Warriors gives me shivers. That team would beat us. And I mean, they'd whoop our little asses. Because Sabonis is freaking legit. As good or better than Ayton.

No way they'd give up Poole, nor should the Warriors consider it. They're contenders and Poole is useful to them now. The Pacers are rebuilding and should accept the high-upside tank commanders. Exchanging Poole is a net-negative from a value perspective.

Would we consider trading for Brogdon to be a super-sixth man? Doesn't matter since the Pacers wouldn't.

... And as far as Thad Young goes, I watched that man play last night. Pass.

you would pay Brogdon's $20m+ a year salary to be a sixth man? he's not 3 times better than Payne.

[BobbieL]

Well either Sabonis or Turner make a ton of sense for GS so yeah I'd say you're right that there will be smoke.

*** Before anyone asks, no I do not think either Turner or Sabonis would be good fits with Ayton.

It's amazing it only cost the suns a 2nd to get Indi to eat Warrens deal . I kid I kid... but only somewhat. These past two years of him not playing why he didn't have trade value a few years ago. Good player horrible medical history.

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I didn't come up with the Sabonis to Warriors - some guy on ESPN did But it makes a lot of sense for both teams

The Warriors probably could use a better player for their team at the 5. Especially offensively. Dray seems to do okay against Ayton and other bigs in the West. And even Looney as a back up

For the Pacers - they would get Wiseman, probably Kominga or Moody . Though the player they should really try for is Poole over Kominga or Mooday. Wiseman is a given for cap reasons plus getting size - but Poole is a good player. WArriors probably still do the trade as they know they have a certain window - especially if Klay is back.


Bright Side had an article today about getting Thad Young - but again, if the Spurs do not take SAric - there is not a trade. Suns probably need to add a FRP (since the Thunder are probably getting the Suns pick in 2022) - but I think I wait for the buyout market.

Yeah I'd also wait to see how the buy out market looks. Hell Thad might be bought out it SA can't find a deal they like.


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Spurs are a smart organizaton. Hypothetically, for a trade to work, Smith + Saric equals what Young gets paid. But thats this year - but its next year, that Saric would cost them an extra $8.5m

Is Saric worth it if the Suns pay $3m and give them a future 2nd. My guess, nope

But the Suns can offer Young the rest of the MLE so maybe the SPurs buy him out for $10m and the Suns get him for $4m

[Blonde]

I would not be surprised if GSW targeted Turner. He seems like the obvious fit for them and huge upgrade over Looney.

[WeekapaugGroove]

Hell I'd rather just flip Smith and/or a 2nd round pick to Indi for Craig than pay more for Thad.

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[sunsbg]

Hell I'd rather just flip Smith and/or a 2nd round pick to Indi for Craig than pay more for Thad.

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Young looked pretty bad in the 7mins of action. Bricked a 3 they let him shoot wide open, some lazy screens. Only strength is probably moving the ball with his 2+ apg. Doesn't look like a game changer at all. I would much rather have Craig back, who was hitting timely 3s for us, but it looks less likely.

[BobbieL]

Hell I'd rather just flip Smith and/or a 2nd round pick to Indi for Craig than pay more for Thad.

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Now that is a helluva idea I didn't think of. Thats a good one - if they are in fire sale mode - maybe they move on from Craig

I would for sure take him over Thad Young at this point, Good call Week. Plus I think the Suns would have to waive Nader or Smith to get to the 15 man roster to sign a buyout candidate so this does that for you.

[BobbieL]

Well either Sabonis or Turner make a ton of sense for GS so yeah I'd say you're right that there will be smoke.

*** Before anyone asks, no I do not think either Turner or Sabonis would be good fits with Ayton.

It's amazing it only cost the suns a 2nd to get Indi to eat Warrens deal . I kid I kid... but only somewhat. These past two years of him not playing why he didn't have trade value a few years ago. Good player horrible medical history.

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I didn't come up with the Sabonis to Warriors - some guy on ESPN did But it makes a lot of sense for both teams

The Warriors probably could use a better player for their team at the 5. Especially offensively. Dray seems to do okay against Ayton and other bigs in the West. And even Looney as a back up

For the Pacers - they would get Wiseman, probably Kominga or Moody . Though the player they should really try for is Poole over Kominga or Mooday. Wiseman is a given for cap reasons plus getting size - but Poole is a good player. WArriors probably still do the trade as they know they have a certain window - especially if Klay is back.


Bright Side had an article today about getting Thad Young - but again, if the Spurs do not take SAric - there is not a trade. Suns probably need to add a FRP (since the Thunder are probably getting the Suns pick in 2022) - but I think I wait for the buyout market.

Sabonis on the Warriors gives me shivers. That team would beat us. And I mean, they'd whoop our little asses. Because Sabonis is freaking legit. As good or better than Ayton.

No way they'd give up Poole, nor should the Warriors consider it. They're contenders and Poole is useful to them now. The Pacers are rebuilding and should accept the high-upside tank commanders. Exchanging Poole is a net-negative from a value perspective.

Would we consider trading for Brogdon to be a super-sixth man? Doesn't matter since the Pacers wouldn't.

... And as far as Thad Young goes, I watched that man play last night. Pass.

But if you are the Pacers - don't you at least have to ask for Poole if a trade like this were to come about. Granted, you are also correct that Wiseman, Kominga and Moody for Sabonis or Turner is a deal the Pacers really would have to look hard at .

I am not sure they would whoop the Suns - but they would be a better team than they are

[spanishninja]

man, the Pacers look like they will be the new us.

[Slim Charless]

I didn't come up with the Sabonis to Warriors - some guy on ESPN did But it makes a lot of sense for both teams

The Warriors probably could use a better player for their team at the 5. Especially offensively. Dray seems to do okay against Ayton and other bigs in the West. And even Looney as a back up

For the Pacers - they would get Wiseman, probably Kominga or Moody . Though the player they should really try for is Poole over Kominga or Mooday. Wiseman is a given for cap reasons plus getting size - but Poole is a good player. WArriors probably still do the trade as they know they have a certain window - especially if Klay is back.


Bright Side had an article today about getting Thad Young - but again, if the Spurs do not take SAric - there is not a trade. Suns probably need to add a FRP (since the Thunder are probably getting the Suns pick in 2022) - but I think I wait for the buyout market.

Sabonis on the Warriors gives me shivers. That team would beat us. And I mean, they'd whoop our little asses. Because Sabonis is freaking legit. As good or better than Ayton.

No way they'd give up Poole, nor should the Warriors consider it. They're contenders and Poole is useful to them now. The Pacers are rebuilding and should accept the high-upside tank commanders. Exchanging Poole is a net-negative from a value perspective.

Would we consider trading for Brogdon to be a super-sixth man? Doesn't matter since the Pacers wouldn't.

... And as far as Thad Young goes, I watched that man play last night. Pass.

you would pay Brogdon's $20m+ a year salary to be a sixth man? he's not 3 times better than Payne.

I don't really want Brogdon, and I don't think he can be traded for awhile since he just signed an extension anyways.

Also, if I'm Indy, why would I want Wiseman for Sabonis? The problem is my 2 centers don't work (and they should btw, I'm not sure what's going on there. Those guys cover for what the other does crappy) so why add ANOTHER big. I think the Dubs can move Wiseman and stuff for Siakim if they want, but Sabonis doesn't work from the Indy side.

I could see OKC taking a dive and shipping Dort and some of their picks for him though. Giddy, SGA and Sabonis would make a great core, plus they'd still have this year's pick. Seems to be a way to show SGA that they won't be tanking forever.

[BobbieL]

Sabonis on the Warriors gives me shivers. That team would beat us. And I mean, they'd whoop our little asses. Because Sabonis is freaking legit. As good or better than Ayton.

No way they'd give up Poole, nor should the Warriors consider it. They're contenders and Poole is useful to them now. The Pacers are rebuilding and should accept the high-upside tank commanders. Exchanging Poole is a net-negative from a value perspective.

Would we consider trading for Brogdon to be a super-sixth man? Doesn't matter since the Pacers wouldn't.

... And as far as Thad Young goes, I watched that man play last night. Pass.

you would pay Brogdon's $20m+ a year salary to be a sixth man? he's not 3 times better than Payne.

I don't really want Brogdon, and I don't think he can be traded for awhile since he just signed an extension anyways.

Also, if I'm Indy, why would I want Wiseman for Sabonis? The problem is my 2 centers don't work (and they should btw, I'm not sure what's going on there. Those guys cover for what the other does crappy) so why add ANOTHER big. I think the Dubs can move Wiseman and stuff for Siakim if they want, but Sabonis doesn't work from the Indy side.

I could see OKC taking a dive and shipping Dort and some of their picks for him though. Giddy, SGA and Sabonis would make a great core, plus they'd still have this year's pick. Seems to be a way to show SGA that they won't be tanking forever.

From the Pacers point of view - OKC really doesn't have much to trade for Sabonis. Dort makes no money - but you are right, they could easily take on his salary. But if you are the Pacers - what is better - picks from OKC or three players like Wiseman, Moody and Kominga. Than you ship Turner or Sabonis, the one not going to the Warriors - maybe they do go to OKC or they got to another team in a three team deal and you are building around those three young players from what Warriors.

As a Suns fan, I don't like it. But if they were to do it - it makes sense. I just cannot think of another team that has the young talent the Warriors have -- potentially

[Blonde]

Thad would play better with consistent minutes. He’s significantly better than Craig, though both would help.

[Slim Charless]

you would pay Brogdon's $20m+ a year salary to be a sixth man? he's not 3 times better than Payne.

I don't really want Brogdon, and I don't think he can be traded for awhile since he just signed an extension anyways.

Also, if I'm Indy, why would I want Wiseman for Sabonis? The problem is my 2 centers don't work (and they should btw, I'm not sure what's going on there. Those guys cover for what the other does crappy) so why add ANOTHER big. I think the Dubs can move Wiseman and stuff for Siakim if they want, but Sabonis doesn't work from the Indy side.

I could see OKC taking a dive and shipping Dort and some of their picks for him though. Giddy, SGA and Sabonis would make a great core, plus they'd still have this year's pick. Seems to be a way to show SGA that they won't be tanking forever.

From the Pacers point of view - OKC really doesn't have much to trade for Sabonis. Dort makes no money - but you are right, they could easily take on his salary. But if you are the Pacers - what is better - picks from OKC or three players like Wiseman, Moody and Kominga. Than you ship Turner or Sabonis, the one not going to the Warriors - maybe they do go to OKC or they got to another team in a three team deal and you are building around those three young players from what Warriors.

As a Suns fan, I don't like it. But if they were to do it - it makes sense. I just cannot think of another team that has the young talent the Warriors have -- potentially

I'd take Dort's defense, pair him with Brogdon and take like 5 picks (those Clips picks have a chance to be good amongst others) from OKC. Then you ship off LeVert for another pick and let it roll.

Dort, Brogdon, Turner (resigned) and like 6 picks from OKC from various teams isn't bad. I have no interest in Wiseman if I'm Indy.

[Ghost of Kleine]

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Trade Cam or Crowder? That would be **** stupid

Agreed.

Both of them fit this team like a glove, play hard, have bought into the system, and their shooting is essential to our offense.

I'm just tired of the dumb day dreamy stuff here, this was just the most blatant example. We're contending NOW, let's enjoy it, and hype up our guys, not try to Danny Ainge every malcontent potential trade target.

There's a middle ground. I think we could really use another 2/3. Another lengthy defender (playing any position) who could hit an open 3 would be nice. But I can't even think of one we could nab, so I don't have anything to suggest.

I have no doubt we'll add another player close to the deadline or in the buyout market. But in any case, we're likely to wait in case an injury hits and we need to fill a major need.

Kind of pointless to discuss trades right now, since we're not looking to make an even trade, but rather a trade in which we receive talent and the other team receives draft considerations and/or salary relief. And at this point there are only 4 teams that are completely out of the playoff race: Orlando, Detroit, Houston and OKC. What realistic targets exist among those teams? We've discussed why Christian Wood isn't a rough fit. That leaves... Mo Bamba if Javale gets injured? Doubt it. Josh Jackson? I bet Olynyk would be pricey... Danuel House? For Smith, a SRP and pile of cash, maybe? Don't think it's worth it, as he won't be moving any needles. But that's all I see from those four rosters.

That's about all the rosterbation I can stomach for now. Though I will admit I briefly daydreamed about picking up TJ Warren for a playoff run the other night. Pure fantasy for lots of reasons - too many to list.

I think we could really use another 2/3. Another lengthy defender (playing any position) who could hit an open 3 would be nice. But I can't even think of one we could nab, so I don't have anything to suggest.

I mentioned this guy before awhile back as a consideration for a Smith / Nader or Hutchinson swap + maybe a 2nd. Also for his elite perimeter (3 point ) defense, and good recovery weakside rim protection. Chris Boucher is having a down year a bit, So he'd come pretty cheap. He's currently making around 7 million and is an unrestricted free agent in 2022. So he'd be a flier option really. I see him as a more experienced, more advanced version of Smith currently. Toronto should surrender him fairly cheaply.

https://hoopshype.com/2021/02/22/toronto-raptors-chris-boucher-nick-nurse-defense-sixth-man/

The Toronto Raptors have an incredible player in Chris Boucher, who won NBA G League MVP and Defensive Player of the Year in 2019.

Boucher is a big man who uses his 7-foot-4 wingspan to make life incredibly challenging for his opponents. In fact, he is currently accomplishing that in a way that has never been done in the NBA.

According to PBP Stats, Boucher is averaging 0.95 blocks on three-pointers per 100 possessions. Based on our research conducted on Feb. 22, that is the highest rate (minimum: 200 minutes) among all players since 2000-01.
Bryan Kalbrosky (@BryanKalbrosky) Tweeted:
Most blocks on 3-pointers ever recorded (per 100)

1. Chris Boucher ('21): 0.95

2. James Johnson ('14): 0.88

3. Mitchell Robinson ('19): 0.86

4. Robert Williams ('19): 0.84

5. Matisse Thybulle ('21): 0.83

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Boucher, as explained by Blake Murphy, has displayed the unique ability to properly defend the restricted area yet still showcase his remarkable stride to close out on shooters (via The Athletic):

Murphy added that Boucher is doing quite a bit more than just swatting the shots. According to his research, opponents are shooting 26.2 percent in three-point attempts against Boucher. That is the lowest mark of anyone who has recorded at least 100 contests from beyond the arc.

Boucher has played an incredibly significant role as a defensive player for the Raptors. During a seven-point victory on Feb. 21, Toronto outscored the Philadelphia 76ers by 32 points when Boucher was on the floor.
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chris boucher's specialty: blocking 3s https://t.co/RLmyxlKRw3

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I see him as an upgrade swap from Smith (whom we're apparently not looking at keeping anyways). Again, I think it'd be awesome to be able to unload Smith and either Hutchinson or Nader and a 2nd for Boucher, Whose skillset would be really helpful against elite 3 or shooting teams like Golden state, Utah, Milwaukee, etc. And in moving the combination of Smith/ and Nader or Hutchinson creates open roster spots to still add a Thad Young, Derrick Favors, Tristan Thompson, Torrey Craig ( If bought out) or Justin Holiday?? Whomever really from the buyout pool. To give us incredible depth on the fringe of our roster!