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Prokorov wrote:MrDollarBills wrote:Damn. We needed at least one of those FTs Clax. I'm not gonna be too upset at him tho, he's been scrapping out there
It isnt Claxtons fault. he shouldn't be on the floor in that situation. Johnson was fouled so we had the ability to sub. up 3 with 35 seconds left you cant have poor FT shooters on the floor. Clax was great, but needed aldridge for that possession.
I kind of agree with you, but i don't. Being able to switch Claxton on Luka was a waaaaay better option defensively than letting Aldridge getting put on an island versus a top 5 player.
I thought that the risk assessment was solid here.
Also, you know who probably loved having Claxton on the floor in the 4th? James Harden.
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MrDollarBills wrote:Prokorov wrote:MrDollarBills wrote:Gonna give Steve Nash some credit here:
1) the challenge on the Harden strip of Luka. That was honestly the end of the game right there
I dont love this challenge. i mean, its not a bad challenge. but your challenge a play where we dont get possesion (jump ball), we dont take points off the board (no a shooting foul) we dont take a 6th foul off a star (harden had 4 fouls) and we would have had 0 timeouts if we lost... additionally, it was a 50-50 call.
theres 50 seconds left, so worth the gamble given there probably wont be a challengeable play the rest of the game. but the end result was the mavs still had possesion as they won the tip.2) using the Harden/Mills/Durant/Johnson/Claxton line up down the stretch. That was maximum length and able to switch on everything. Look at the point disparity in the 4th. We shut Dallas down.
Almost all of dallas points down the stretch where exploiting mills being on the floor and brooklyns "switch all" defense. Luka abused mills possession after possesion either with a bucket or getting to the rim forcing help and passing for a wide open shot. dont switch mills or dont have mills on the floor there.
You are overlooking what having Claxton, Johnson, and KD at the 5, 4 and 3 brought to the floor. That length is a huge reason as to why we won the 4th quarter 27-13.
Having mills on the floor and going switch all kept dallas in the game and gave them a chance to win. terrible coaching, its one thing 2 or 3 times. they forced luka on mills like 8+ possesion in a row with easy scores/open shots every time.
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Prokorov wrote:MrDollarBills wrote:Rich Rane wrote:Past seasons to start off, the Nets didn't play up to their potential and lost a lot. This season, the Nets aren't playing their best and are 17-7. Things could be much worse.
Joe Tsai needs to hire some goons.
Have em mask up, head down to South Orange. Catch Kyrie slipping outside of his home. Let them flash the burners at him and then put a Black sack over his head and force him into a van.
In the van awaits a nurse being paid a substantial amount of money to keep her mouth shut. She rolls up his sleeve, applies alcohol to his arm and injects him with the JnJ one and done vaccine.
Drive him back home, dump him off. In his pocket? A CDC vaccination card with the time, date, type and lot number of what he was injected with.
Problem solved.
Yeah, it's pretty rapey, but I'm about sick of this sh*t.
i mean, i dont hate it.
I mean obviously it's very illegal and morally questionable but i feel like if we have Kyrie mixed in with this team who has solid defense, we'd be unstoppable.
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Prokorov wrote:MrDollarBills wrote:Prokorov wrote:
I dont love this challenge. i mean, its not a bad challenge. but your challenge a play where we dont get possesion (jump ball), we dont take points off the board (no a shooting foul) we dont take a 6th foul off a star (harden had 4 fouls) and we would have had 0 timeouts if we lost... additionally, it was a 50-50 call.
theres 50 seconds left, so worth the gamble given there probably wont be a challengeable play the rest of the game. but the end result was the mavs still had possesion as they won the tip.
Almost all of dallas points down the stretch where exploiting mills being on the floor and brooklyns "switch all" defense. Luka abused mills possession after possesion either with a bucket or getting to the rim forcing help and passing for a wide open shot. dont switch mills or dont have mills on the floor there.
You are overlooking what having Claxton, Johnson, and KD at the 5, 4 and 3 brought to the floor. That length is a huge reason as to why we won the 4th quarter 27-13.
Having mills on the floor and going switch all kept dallas in the game and gave them a chance to win. terrible coaching, its one thing 2 or 3 times. they forced luka on mills like 8+ possesion in a row with easy scores/open shots every time.
yeah but we won the war of attrition. Who else are you trusting on the floor at that moment with those other guys to hold down the offense? Mills hit some huge shots.
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MrDollarBills wrote:Prokorov wrote:MrDollarBills wrote:
You are overlooking what having Claxton, Johnson, and KD at the 5, 4 and 3 brought to the floor. That length is a huge reason as to why we won the 4th quarter 27-13.
Having mills on the floor and going switch all kept dallas in the game and gave them a chance to win. terrible coaching, its one thing 2 or 3 times. they forced luka on mills like 8+ possesion in a row with easy scores/open shots every time.
yeah but we won the war of attrition. Who else are you trusting on the floor at that moment with those other guys to hold down the offense? Mills hit some huge shots.
I'd keep mills in and make luka give it up at half court. the way dallas did a couple times with KD. hard double at the logo. make one of their other guys who cant create offense create offense.
or... I'd have Bembry up. we were ahead at the time. they went on a 6-1 run during that stin to go up 4. Bembry prevents that, and i mean, maybe we still find a way to score with KD/Harden on the floor right?
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Twitter is saying claxton called Luka a fat ass, which lead to the Luka three. if true, love claxton even more
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Who do you have for king tonight?
i think james johnson maybe? claxton huge impact too.
i think james johnson maybe? claxton huge impact too.
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Prokorov wrote:Twitter is saying claxton called Luka a fat ass, which lead to the Luka three. if true, love claxton even more
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We held them to 13 in the 4th so going at the defensive strategy there is just nitpicking. Mills and Luka isn't an ideal matchup but we forced them to play isoball and outside of a few possessions, made him uncomfortable with help when he got to the paint.
We really have to play with this type of aggression on offense for 4 quarters. It felt like a different team out there in the 4th. The guys were really locked in and we were hunting great shots every possession. Not just settling or pounding the rock til the shot clock was gone.
Im surprised we didn't foul up 3. After a couple of our disaster games last year, that's been automatic for us. Wonder if that was just showing faith in the defense. It almost burned us.
I don't want to see Millsap again after what Johnson and Claxton did tonight. If anyone deserves a shot, it's Blake - who looked like an all star compared to Millsap.
We really have to play with this type of aggression on offense for 4 quarters. It felt like a different team out there in the 4th. The guys were really locked in and we were hunting great shots every possession. Not just settling or pounding the rock til the shot clock was gone.
Im surprised we didn't foul up 3. After a couple of our disaster games last year, that's been automatic for us. Wonder if that was just showing faith in the defense. It almost burned us.
I don't want to see Millsap again after what Johnson and Claxton did tonight. If anyone deserves a shot, it's Blake - who looked like an all star compared to Millsap.
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MrDollarBills wrote:Prokorov wrote:MrDollarBills wrote:Damn. We needed at least one of those FTs Clax. I'm not gonna be too upset at him tho, he's been scrapping out there
It isnt Claxtons fault. he shouldn't be on the floor in that situation. Johnson was fouled so we had the ability to sub. up 3 with 35 seconds left you cant have poor FT shooters on the floor. Clax was great, but needed aldridge for that possession.
I kind of agree with you, but i don't. Being able to switch Claxton on Luka was a waaaaay better option defensively than letting Aldridge getting put on an island versus a top 5 player.
I thought that the risk assessment was solid here.
Also, you know who probably loved having Claxton on the floor in the 4th? James Harden.
im talking about that possession.
up 3 points, 35 seconds left. STOPPAGE OF PLAY on the Johnson foul.
You have to sub out claxton there. its non-negotiable. your giving them a chance by having a guy out there they can force the ball to and whom is awful at the line. put aldridge in and now there are no risks to miss both shots. it probably end sup with johnson, who iced the game vs the knicks in the same situation.
if we make the Fts they call timeout, you sub claxton back in.
if we miss you foul (up 3 and under 20 seconds)
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Prokorov wrote:MrDollarBills wrote:Prokorov wrote:
Having mills on the floor and going switch all kept dallas in the game and gave them a chance to win. terrible coaching, its one thing 2 or 3 times. they forced luka on mills like 8+ possesion in a row with easy scores/open shots every time.
yeah but we won the war of attrition. Who else are you trusting on the floor at that moment with those other guys to hold down the offense? Mills hit some huge shots.
I'd keep mills in and make luka give it up at half court. the way dallas did a couple times with KD. hard double at the logo. make one of their other guys who cant create offense create offense.
or... I'd have Bembry up. we were ahead at the time. they went on a 6-1 run during that stin to go up 4. Bembry prevents that, and i mean, maybe we still find a way to score with KD/Harden on the floor right?
I don't agree with leaving Mills versus Luka one on one. but I do agree with leaving him on the floor for offense with three lengthy players at SF/PF/C, two of which aren't shooters. It could have been handled better definitely, but the line up won us the game regardless.
I don't think we even want to see what happens if we put harden and kd on the floor with Bembry, JJ and Claxton. You need at least one other shooter.
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Prokorov wrote:MrDollarBills wrote:Prokorov wrote:
It isnt Claxtons fault. he shouldn't be on the floor in that situation. Johnson was fouled so we had the ability to sub. up 3 with 35 seconds left you cant have poor FT shooters on the floor. Clax was great, but needed aldridge for that possession.
I kind of agree with you, but i don't. Being able to switch Claxton on Luka was a waaaaay better option defensively than letting Aldridge getting put on an island versus a top 5 player.
I thought that the risk assessment was solid here.
Also, you know who probably loved having Claxton on the floor in the 4th? James Harden.
im talking about that possession.
up 3 points, 35 seconds left. STOPPAGE OF PLAY on the Johnson foul.
You have to sub out claxton there. its non-negotiable. your giving them a chance by having a guy out there they can force the ball to and whom is awful at the line. put aldridge in and now there are no risks to miss both shots. it probably end sup with johnson, who iced the game vs the knicks in the same situation.
if we make the Fts they call timeout, you sub claxton back in.
if we miss you foul (up 3 and under 20 seconds)
ok bet, i will need to watch the sequence again
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MGrand15 wrote:We held them to 13 in the 4th so going at the defensive strategy there is just nitpicking. Mills and Luka isn't an ideal matchup but we forced them to play isoball and outside of a few possessions, made him uncomfortable with help when he got to the paint.
We really have to play with this type of aggression on offense for 4 quarters. It felt like a different team out there in the 4th. The guys were really locked in and we were hunting great shots every possession. Not just settling or pounding the rock til the shot clock was gone.
Im surprised we didn't foul up 3. After a couple of our disaster games last year, that's been automatic for us. Wonder if that was just showing faith in the defense. It almost burned us.
I don't want to see Millsap again after what Johnson and Claxton did tonight. If anyone deserves a shot, it's Blake - who looked like an all star compared to Millsap.
yeah, i think Blake needs to play. it doesn't make sense to bench him.
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Both Harden and KD should not see the floor for more than 30 mins tomorrow. Get it done, Nash!
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Prokorov wrote:Hello Brooklyn wrote:Wow best win of the season. We never gave up.
I was convinced Luka would make it.
He shouldn't even have had a CHANCE to make it.
-We are up 3
-They are in the Bonus
-They have 0 timeouts
-there are under 20 seconds to play
Foul. you absolutely foul there. Don't let them get a shot off to tie it. They cant advance the ball with a timeout and we are +1 with the ball even if they make both free throws. ESPECIALLY with someone like Luka, who can hit from anywhere
awful coaching.
This is getting annoying. I don't believe Nash who played organized bball as a pg (and a great one at that) all his life, does not know what the best strategy is. Even in the unlikely event that he doesn't know, no assistant ever consult him? It's almost like he knows what's best but is too noble to win games any other way.
We won again in spite of Nash, this time thanks to another awful coach on the opposite sideline. (Ironically another great pg)
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Nice comeback win. We have some clutch players on this team. Being clutch is more than making shots in the last minute. It's about making timely shots and stops. Patty, LMA, Bembry has been clutch. Harden played efficient and didn't throw the ball away 5 times this game. I keep preaching this but every game seems close like it comes down to the final possessions. I understand we're losing a few guys but it seems like every night KD has to play hero ball in the last minute . We should be beating some of these teams comfortably, maybe not the Mavs but definitely some other teams . I can see KD resting tomorrow against Rockets. I would like to see more of the rookie in that one.
Man the Mavs really screwed themselves. Porzingis is just wayy too soft and doesn't use his height/strength to his advantage. Him and doncic don't fit. And they had a golden opportunity this past summer to acquire a star or impact player and they just resigned THJ. They are wasting Doncic. but then again, Doncic looks FAT ! Even Reggie Miller was saying this is the biggest he's ever seen Doncic. I mean how can he always be out of shape, and we're already a quarter into the season.
Man the Mavs really screwed themselves. Porzingis is just wayy too soft and doesn't use his height/strength to his advantage. Him and doncic don't fit. And they had a golden opportunity this past summer to acquire a star or impact player and they just resigned THJ. They are wasting Doncic. but then again, Doncic looks FAT ! Even Reggie Miller was saying this is the biggest he's ever seen Doncic. I mean how can he always be out of shape, and we're already a quarter into the season.
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Pablo Escobar wrote:Prokorov wrote:Twitter is saying claxton called Luka a fat ass, which lead to the Luka three. if true, love claxton even more
there was a report today that said Luka got up to 260 to start the season and Zion was at like 330
Man they wasn't lying. This generation is lazy af
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Papi_swav wrote:Pablo Escobar wrote:there was a report today that said Luka got up to 260 to start the season and Zion was at like 330
Man they wasn't lying. This generation is lazy af
Crazy thing is Luka is coming off of the playoffs and then the olympics. So he should've been in peak physical form to start the season. He had a few months off and he ballooned in weight that much? that's terrible.
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MGrand15 wrote:We held them to 13 in the 4th so going at the defensive strategy there is just nitpicking. Mills and Luka isn't an ideal matchup but we forced them to play isoball and outside of a few possessions, made him uncomfortable with help when he got to the paint.
We really have to play with this type of aggression on offense for 4 quarters. It felt like a different team out there in the 4th. The guys were really locked in and we were hunting great shots every possession. Not just settling or pounding the rock til the shot clock was gone.
Im surprised we didn't foul up 3. After a couple of our disaster games last year, that's been automatic for us. Wonder if that was just showing faith in the defense. It almost burned us.
I don't want to see Millsap again after what Johnson and Claxton did tonight. If anyone deserves a shot, it's Blake - who looked like an all star compared to Millsap.
You are up 3 with 20 seconds to go, you foul, they get two shots and they can cut it to 1 putting more pressure on us. Instead, Nets played great defense without fouling putting pressure on Mavs to tie and they while they got a good look at the end, they were either gonna lose or tie and they lost. If it became a two possession game with Nets only up 1, we are screwed. I don’t agree with others take on this last possession. Nets defended it beautifully without giving the Mavs two points at the line and with twenty seconds to go, pressure was on Dallas, not the Nets.
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