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Re: NCAA Canadian Watch List, 2021-22 

Post#41 » by NotMyKawhi » Sat Nov 13, 2021 4:39 am

Hair Canada wrote:Zach Edey continues to impress and frankly just looks like a better player than Terion Williams and rightfully getting to start before him. In about 20 minutes today, Edey had 22 points, 10 rebounds, and 3 blocks (I counted 4 watching the game). 8 of 9 from the field and 6 of 7 from the line. An unstoppable force in the paint and looks much better on D this year. Said it before -- He's a leaguer.

Nana Owusu-Anane also with an auspicious start to his college career. Today, in a tight Brown loss against North Carolina at Chapel Hill, NOA had 20 points (2 of 2 from 3) and 8 rebounds, including a couple of big plays in the second half. Do we have another one cooking?


idk his ceiling in the NBA, but in college he can be unstoppable. I'd favor Purdue to win it all rn
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Post#42 » by Bruin » Sat Nov 13, 2021 6:03 am

If Tacko Fall can be on an NBA roster, then so can Edey. Edey is more than just size. He’s actually a good player

I think he becomes a early 2nd rounder (30-40 range)
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Post#43 » by TheFutureMM » Sat Nov 13, 2021 6:28 am

Most important thing about Edey is just the fact that he's developing into a good basketball player - even if he doesn't work in the NBA, FIBA really favours big-men like him. Glad to see he's putting in work early.
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Post#44 » by Hair Canada » Wed Nov 17, 2021 5:31 am

NCAA Canadian Power 10, Week 1

Starting a new power ranking of the top-10 Canadians in college. No guarantees it’s going to last throughout the season, but here goes. Of course, we need to be careful not to jump to any conclusions after one week. But a couple of guys really started well and stood out.

1. Zach Edey (Purdue). Edey is a monster. 40 points, 20 rebounds, and 4 blocks per 40 minutes shooting nearly 80% from the field and 80% from the line pretty much says it all. Yes, he did it in 3 Purdue blowouts against weak teams. But he simply looked unstoppable. Nothing seems more natural at this point than Edey starting over one of the pre-season candidates to be an all-American, Tervon Williams. It’s time to recognize that he’s more than just a really big guy in the paint. He’s a hell of a player.

2. Ryan Nembhard (Creighton). The younger Nembhard looked great in his first three collegiate games. Runs the Creighton offense beautifully, sets up his teammates (5.5 assists per game), and gets his own (16 points per game). Was voted rookie of the week in the Big East even before his best game against Nebraska Tuesday night. If he can continue to make his 3-point shots (5 of 9 so far), he’s going to force NBA teams to ignore his size and consider him as a potential second-rounder.

3. Keeshawn Barthelemy (Colorado). The big surprise so far for me. I liked Keeshawn in high school, but he had a pedestrian rookie season with 3.5 points per game on 35% shooting from the field, so nothing really prepared us for the way he started this season. After three games, the sophomore from Montreal has 20 points per game, shooting the lights out (75% true shooting). But it’s not just the shooting, which is clearly unsustainable; it’s also the aggressiveness. In these 3 games he already went to the line 17 times, after only taking 12 free throws all of last year. Barthelemy is bound to cool off, but he’s got us curious.

4. Fardaws Aimaq (Utah Valey). Aimaq continues to dominate and he also looks much better offensively (and physically) this year, posting 25ppg and 11rpg and shooting much better (62% from the field compared with only 47% last year) so far. Another encouraging sign is that he didn’t lose a step on Monday night in a good win against a pretty decent Pepperdine team (34 points and 14 rebounds), after having a really hard time against better teams last year. If he continues to play like this, NBA scouts will be forced to take notice (still think it's quite a stretch). With Edey and Aimaq, the future of the CNT up front looks bright.

5. Noah Kirkwood (Harvard). Only two games after nearly two years since his last official games, but Kirkwood looked like he hasn’t missed a step. 23ppg, 8rbg, 2.5apg, and 4.5spg (!) are fantastic numbers and he’s also been shooting it well so far. Hopefully, he can continue the trend.

6. Josip Vrankic (Santa Clara). The senior leads all Canadians in assists (6 per game) from the power forward position, adding 16 points, 7 rebounds, and 2 steals per game in three big Santa Clara wins.

7. Maurice Calloo (Oregon State). Talked about him before the start of the season as one of my candidates for a breakout season and so far it looks good. He picked up where he left it at the end of last season, shooting the 3-ball really well (7 of 10 in 3 games so far), doing a decent job on the boards, and already breaking his career-high, with 20 in his most recent game.

8. Aher Uguak (Loyola Chicago). Another senior who started the season hot with 16ppg and really hot shooting: 7 of 9 from 3 and 18 of 23 from the field in 3 games. Obviously, that’s unsustainable, but he’s looked great so far.

9. Josh Morgan (Incarnate Word). A guy that probably not many have heard of. A strong and fairly athletic shooter, who played high school basketball at Father Henry Carr if I remember correctly and occasionally exploded for 40-point games. Well, he’s doing it college now as a sophomore, scoring 20ppg and shooting the lights out from 3 (11 of 19). He’s bound to cool off and he’s playing at a low major conference but it’s still a very nice start and he gets the nod.

10. James Jean-Marie (Portland State). Another guy I singled out before the season and he’s been performing well so far. 15 points and 10 rebounds per game in his two first appearances with Portland State.

Honorable mentions:

Charles Bediako (Alabama). Looks better than I expected, starting at center and putting up some nice stats: 8ppg, 5rpg, and 2bpg.
Raheim Sullivan (Marist). 20ppg and good shooting for the senior in 2 games so far.
Koby McEwen (Weber State). Also started the season well (18.5ppg; hot shooting from 3).
Dylan O’Hearn (NJIT). Another hot start for the Windsor product, with 18ppg and strong shooting behind the arc.
Nana Owusu-anane (Brown). 12ppg and 6rpg for the rookie in 20 minutes of play for the freshman.
Tyrese Samuel (Seton Hall). Hot start but cooled off after that.
Emmanuel Miller (TCU). Continues to be very solid (12 points and 13 rebounds per game) though unspectacular.
• Sophomore guard Taryn Todd moved to a mid-major college (New Mexico), gets extended playing time, and looks good so far with 10 points and 4 STOCKS per game.

Slow starts:

Marcus Carr (Texas) has a fairly slow start to the season and hasn’t been shooting it very well.
Ben Mathurin (Arizona) and Caleb Houstan[/b] (Michigan). The same is true for Mathurin and Houstan the two main candidates to go in the draft. Hope it’s just a rough start.
Quincy Guerrier (Oregon). Quite a disappointing start, with pedestrian stats and weak shooting numbers. And the team also doesn’t look that great.
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Re: NCAA Canadian Watch List, 2021-22 

Post#45 » by Bruin » Wed Nov 17, 2021 5:37 am

Edey with 18pts, 12 rebounds, 2 steals, 2 blocks on 8-12 FG in 18 minutes

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Post#46 » by aminiaturebuddha » Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:22 pm

Thanks for the power rankings, Hair. I'm really glad to see Noah Kirkwood come back and play well after so much time off. I've been a fan of his ever since seeing him in the 2015 U16 tournament, where he just seemed like the perfect "glue" guy for that team. Not elite at anything, but very solid in all aspects of the game.

I don't expect that he'll end up in the NBA, but I'm hoping he has a good career in Europe, and may end up being a useful player for some of those mid-season qualifying games for the National Team in the future.

And Charles Bediako, as you say, has been a pleasant surprise so far as well. If he can really come on, the national program might not be as bereft of young quality big men as I thought in the future with Edey and Bediako.
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Post#47 » by Backcountry » Wed Nov 17, 2021 4:23 pm

Reading about Zach Edey, I think the most telling aspect in his development is that he is/was a multi-sport athlete growing up. Played hockey, was a college-scouted baseball pitcher. Then he grew, and basketball become the only sport he could seriously pursue. But he has a lot of transferable skills, and apparently the work ethic to get better. He's not just a Tacko Fall.
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Post#48 » by mojo13 » Wed Nov 17, 2021 5:40 pm

aminiaturebuddha wrote:Thanks for the power rankings, Hair. I'm really glad to see Noah Kirkwood come back and play well after so much time off. I've been a fan of his ever since seeing him in the 2015 U16 tournament, where he just seemed like the perfect "glue" guy for that team. Not elite at anything, but very solid in all aspects of the game.

I don't expect that he'll end up in the NBA, but I'm hoping he has a good career in Europe, and may end up being a useful player for some of those mid-season qualifying games for the National Team in the future.

And Charles Bediako, as you say, has been a pleasant surprise so far as well. If he can really come on, the national program might not be as bereft of young quality big men as I thought in the future with Edey and Bediako.


In regards to the bigs depth, I'm quite excited to see Kyle Alexander with SMNT on the 28th and 29th. He really is playing well for Feunlabrada in the ACB and very well could be a EuroLeague quality player. 25 year old, 7 footer, solid 10/10 type guy who can protect the rim and even hit a three once in a while. Not a savior at the C position but really plugs the holes left by Joel Anthony and Kyle Landry's retirements and should be a big upgrade over Owen Klassen. Edey has higher upside of course - not sure if Bediako does.
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Post#49 » by aminiaturebuddha » Wed Nov 17, 2021 6:28 pm

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aminiaturebuddha wrote:Thanks for the power rankings, Hair. I'm really glad to see Noah Kirkwood come back and play well after so much time off. I've been a fan of his ever since seeing him in the 2015 U16 tournament, where he just seemed like the perfect "glue" guy for that team. Not elite at anything, but very solid in all aspects of the game.

I don't expect that he'll end up in the NBA, but I'm hoping he has a good career in Europe, and may end up being a useful player for some of those mid-season qualifying games for the National Team in the future.

And Charles Bediako, as you say, has been a pleasant surprise so far as well. If he can really come on, the national program might not be as bereft of young quality big men as I thought in the future with Edey and Bediako.


In regards to the bigs depth, I'm quite excited to see Kyle Alexander with SMNT on the 28th and 29th. He really is playing well for Feunlabrada in the ACB and very well could be a EuroLeague quality player. 25 year old, 7 footer, solid 10/10 type guy who can protect the rim and even hit a three once in a while. Not a savior at the C position but really plugs the holes left by Joel Anthony and Kyle Landry's retirements and should be a big upgrade over Owen Klassen. Edey has higher upside of course - not sure if Bediako does.


I'd agree on Alexander. I think a good outcome for Bediako would be becoming an Alexander-like player. I'm just hoping to see a little more depth at the position going forward, and was starting to worry about where it would be coming from. You've already noted the retirements of Anthony and Landry. And Olynyk, Powell, and TT are already 30, and probably won't have too many more cycles left (I wouldn't expect to see any of them still playing big roles past the next Olympics).

And as we've seen, with this summer being a perfect example, we can probably only count on about a third of the players being available. Birch is 29, Boucher 28, Lyles 26, and Clarke and Alexander are 25. I think we can safely pencil in Edey as a key guy to throw into the mix going forward. Would be nice to be able to add another young big like Bediako as well.

Then again, centers and big forwards often take some time to develop, so maybe a couple of others will come out of the woodwork over the next couple of years and surprise us.
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Post#50 » by Hair Canada » Wed Nov 17, 2021 7:43 pm

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aminiaturebuddha wrote:Thanks for the power rankings, Hair. I'm really glad to see Noah Kirkwood come back and play well after so much time off. I've been a fan of his ever since seeing him in the 2015 U16 tournament, where he just seemed like the perfect "glue" guy for that team. Not elite at anything, but very solid in all aspects of the game.

I don't expect that he'll end up in the NBA, but I'm hoping he has a good career in Europe, and may end up being a useful player for some of those mid-season qualifying games for the National Team in the future.

And Charles Bediako, as you say, has been a pleasant surprise so far as well. If he can really come on, the national program might not be as bereft of young quality big men as I thought in the future with Edey and Bediako.


In regards to the bigs depth, I'm quite excited to see Kyle Alexander with SMNT on the 28th and 29th. He really is playing well for Feunlabrada in the ACB and very well could be a EuroLeague quality player. 25 year old, 7 footer, solid 10/10 type guy who can protect the rim and even hit a three once in a while. Not a savior at the C position but really plugs the holes left by Joel Anthony and Kyle Landry's retirements and should be a big upgrade over Owen Klassen. Edey has higher upside of course - not sure if Bediako does.


I'd agree on Alexander. I think a good outcome for Bediako would be becoming an Alexander-like player. I'm just hoping to see a little more depth at the position going forward, and was starting to worry about where it would be coming from. You've already noted the retirements of Anthony and Landry. And Olynyk, Powell, and TT are already 30, and probably won't have too many more cycles left (I wouldn't expect to see any of them still playing big roles past the next Olympics).

And as we've seen, with this summer being a perfect example, we can probably only count on about a third of the players being available. Birch is 29, Boucher 28, Lyles 26, and Clarke and Alexander are 25. I think we can safely pencil in Edey as a key guy to throw into the mix going forward. Would be nice to be able to add another young big like Bediako as well.

Then again, centers and big forwards often take some time to develop, so maybe a couple of others will come out of the woodwork over the next couple of years and surprise us.


There are at least two others among the younger generation (class of 2022) that I have some hopes for in that regard.

First, I quite like Armani Mighty (6'11; cool name), maybe even more than Bediako. More mobile (really long strides), less stiff, and has a good shooting touch while providing a similar defensive presence. Will play at Boston College in the Big East next year.

I also like Jeremy Foumena, who plays at Orangeville. Also around 6'11, pretty strong, mobile, a good athlete, and can also shoot it a little. Both still need quite a bit of improvement and work on their body and fundamentals. but I'm hoping at least one of them joins the conversation (my bet would be on Mighty).
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Post#51 » by Hair Canada » Thu Nov 18, 2021 9:47 pm

Emmanuel Akot with a career-high 24 points (3 assists) in a tight Boise State loss to #23 St. Bonaventure. Shot 6 of 9 from 3 and defended well against the Bonnis' best player. At 6'8, he plays full-time PG. Could have had many more assists actually, but his teammates did not convert. Really liked what I saw from him today. Would like to see him stay aggressive and attack the paint even more using his size to finish. He's not super quick but has a good handle and should try to get to the rim more. A bit like Banton, this might actually be easier for him with NBA spacing. Games like today show why the potential is still there.
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Post#52 » by BilboBanginz » Mon Nov 22, 2021 1:33 pm

Career game for Edey. 21 Pts on 9/12 FGs in 20 Mins.

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Post#53 » by aminiaturebuddha » Mon Nov 22, 2021 1:50 pm

One thing about Edey that makes him so tough is that he really seems comfortable finishing with either hand. Opposing teams essentially have to double him because he's so big that one guy can effectively only guard against one side of his body.

That he looks so smooth and comfortable at such a young age going up with his left hand as well as his right is a great sign of the work he's put in on skill development.
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Post#54 » by aligator » Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:49 pm

Mathurin may have had a slow start statistically but he sure looked like a pro candidate last night. I think he will hold or improve his presently perceived draft position.
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Post#55 » by Hair Canada » Wed Nov 24, 2021 1:38 pm

NCAA Power 10, Week 2

1. Zach Edey (Purdue). Edey continues to be wonderful and this week he did it against some of the college's elite. North Carolina managed to make life a bit hard for him on D and drive him off the court with their stretch bigs (well, not exactly; after all, stepping up from the Purdue bench is an all-American candidate, who’s also been playing great). But Edey made the adjustment and was the MVP of the Cheez-It Hall of Fame Tip-Off (what a strange name) final, leading Purdue to the title over a tough and experienced Villanova team. His per-40 numbers remain ridiculous and his PER for the season so far is 46 (second in all of college). I expect to start seeing him on draft boards as a second-rounder soon enough and more games like the last one, where he shows he can decently contain quick shooting bigs might do the trick in convincing teams to give him a shot.

2. Ryan Nembhard (Creighton). Ryan continues to excel with this young Creighton team. They are not terribly good, but he’s been playing excellent basketball, shooting well, and looking like a senior guard out there, also scoring his first, and I suspect not last, game-winner on Monday. The most impressive thing about him is how composed he looks out there. Yes, he still has quite a few turnovers, but it’s mostly not because he’s rushed or makes bad decisions. Rather, it’s about him still adjusting to the size and the different level of athleticism. And here’s another thing: He’s actually been even better than what his terrific stats (14ppg and 5apg on 64% true shooting) show. The reason is that in each of the games I’ve watched, he’s been legit robbed of at least 2 assists. It’s the strangest thing – he’d make a great pass for a bucket, and then it’s either counted as an assist for someone else or no assist at all. Some of it might be the strange way they count assists in college (still haven't figured it out). But some is just plain oversight. And that’s not even mentioning the point-blank misses by teammates on some of his passes.

3. Ben Mathurin (Arizona). After a slow start, Ben’s been looking much better in his last three. The shots are starting to fall, the energy level has picked up, and in the last Arizona big win against Michigan (told you they’re better than what most people said!), he’s also finally started to create. He’s still not the smoothest ball-handler or decision-maker in traffic and looks better in the open court and when he keeps things simple. But the defensive awareness has been better, he’s mostly taking good shots and passing on tough ones, and he’s looked like a lottery pick.

4. Fardaws Aimaq (Utah Valey). Aimaq continues to dominate and he’s almost up to his rebounding numbers from last year, while scoring and shooting the ball much better. Watching him this week, I still have a hard time imagining this working out at the NBA level. He can certainly bang it with bigs in the paint but he’s not a great rim protector with his decent but not great length, burst, and speed. He also doesn’t seem quite comfortable with taking shots from the perimeter and is not quick enough to blow by guys. This leaves him mostly with the back-to-the-basket game, in which he has an advantage over current opponents, but it's on that will likely disappear at a higher level. All that said, he’s a hell of a college player. An out-of-this-world rebounder, who plays hard and will certainly play professionally somewhere after he’s done.

5. Andrew Nembhard (Gonzaga). A look at the averages might suggest that Andrew has had a slow start to the season. But if we ignore the easy games against weak opponents and focus only on the two big games that really mattered, where Gonzaga played against top-10 teams, Nembhard has actually looked great. Mark Few trusts him blindly and in these two big wins against Texas and UCLA he didn’t rest for even a second, playing the full 80 minutes! And he’s been awesome in both games, playing great defense, making excellent decisions, and remaining aggressive, putting up 17ppg and 7apg in these two and shooting the ball well. Now, can we just ask that he remains this aggressive on a more consistent basis? Because this version of Andrew Nembhard is an NBA player.

6. Emmanuel Akot (Boise State). A very good second week for the talented senior, who scored 16ppg in 3 games and added 4apg, also making 11 of his 17 shots from 3. When the shot is falling like this, it’s easy to get excited about a 6’8 with good physical tools, who plays full-time PG. But I’d like him to be more aggressive and create more. Akot is very decent with the ball. But unlike someone like Dalano Banton, he’s not that quick and has a bit of a hard time getting into the paint. He’s bulkier and stronger than Banton, but doesn’t have those quick long steps and wiry shiftiness, and he’s also not as long and agile. So even though he now plays lead guard for Boise, I’m not sure that can be his position at the next level and he’ll need to keep shooting well and defend to get a shot at the NBA.

7. Charles Bediako (Alabama). The younger Bediako continues to look better than I expected, playing for a very good Alabama team. After fouling out in 10 minutes in his first game, in the next 3 he’s played 25 minutes per game, producing very nicely with 11 points, 5 rebounds, and 3 blocks per game, shooting 70% from the field.

8. Keeshawn Barthelemy (Colorado). As expected, he’s coming back to earth after his unreal start to the season. Scored in single digits for the first time in Colorado’s last game and didn’t look great. Still managed to come up big in the final minute with a big bucket and then an intentional miss from the line that didn’t leave the other team time to get a quality shot and basically won the game.

9. Noah Kirkwood (Harvard). Kirkwood continues to be very solid. Nothing spectacular, but he’s getting to his spots and shooting the ball well.

10. Josip Vrankic (Santa Clara). Didn’t play this week (I believe he’s injured) but for now he still has a spot in my top-10.


Honorable mentions:

James Jean-Marie (Portland State). Jean-Marie continues to be as steady as a rock. Double-doubles in all 4 of his games so far, posting 15 points and 10 rebounds for the season.

Ben Krikke (Valparaiso) Coming back from an injury that sidelined him to start the season, Krikke had a great first game, leading the struggling Valpo to their first win of the season with 25 points (career-high), 2 blocks, and 2 steals. His second game was not as impressive but I think he’s on his way to a very good season.

Kobe McEwen (Weber State). An uneven week for the senior, first scoring 30 points and then only 6 with a 2 for 14 from the field performance.

Josh Morgan (Incarnate Word). Continues to shoot the lights out from 3 (4.5 per game on 56%). His team has lost all its games but he’s been great.


Reasons for concern:

Caleb Houstan (Michigan). What happened to that deadeye shooter, who shot better than 40% from 3 on high volume in high school? It didn’t look good in the U19s and also doesn’t look good to start this season (6 of 26). And when his shot is not falling, the mediocre athleticism and physicality are also exposed, as he’s been finding it hard to score and create. Michigan has had a pretty disappointing start to the season, already amassing two losses and falling down the rankings. And while Houstan is not the only reason, he certainly has a big part in it. Shouldn’t overreact to a couple of bad games and hopefully, he’s just in a bad slump and will get out of it soon. But the college season is short and if he can’t start producing soon, he’ll be dropping in the draft big boards real quick.

Quincy Guerrier (Oregon). And here things look even worse. After a good year at Syracuse, everyone expected Guerrier to make another jump at what should have been a better and more versatile team. But so far it looks bad for both him and the Ducks with bad big losses to good but not great teams. And Quincy is really not playing well, with 2ppg in his last 2 and overall terrible shooting since the start of the season.
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Post#56 » by DreamTeam09 » Wed Nov 24, 2021 7:19 pm

Edey needs to be a raptor. If we are sticking with Birch and Precious, then an Edey type makes sense. All 3 could get minutes at the 5 spot while precious can get some burn as a 4 next year when Boucher is probably gone.

Edey will be like a boban zubac type of player, hopefully with a little more skill out there
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Post#57 » by BilboBanginz » Wed Dec 8, 2021 4:21 pm

Two pretty good games in a row now for Caleb Houstan. Hopefully he's turned the corner.

17 & 5 w/ 2 steals on 6/10 shooting (4/5 from 3) vs. San Diego State



16/6/3 w/ 2 steals on 6/9 shooting (4/7 from three) in a blowout vs Nebraska

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Post#58 » by ItsDanger » Wed Dec 8, 2021 4:35 pm

As you can see in 2nd video from last night, Houstan's real weaknesses on offense pertain to ball handling and creation off the dribble. Good passer, rebounder and of course is a great shooter. Not sure about his defense and his foot speed.
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Post#59 » by Hair Canada » Wed Dec 8, 2021 9:16 pm

Great videos and it's certainly encouraging that the shot is falling after a rough start. I'm actually not worried about the defense. He compensates for the mediocre bounce, footspeed, and strength with great feel and positioning and I think he'll be just fine. Creation off the dribble is certainly not a strength, but it's also not that bad for a wing.

I'm mostly worried about the finishing around the rim actually, especially with contact. The blend of mediocre athleticism and strength are already showing and he'll have to learn how to be smart about it, but it's a real issue I think. This means he WILL need his shot to fall consistently to stay effective.
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Post#60 » by Kevin Willis » Wed Dec 8, 2021 10:31 pm

Still a big fan of Ben. Haven't watched as much NCAA ball so far this year but he looks like a lotto pick in this class from what I've seen.

I see no love for Andrew Nembhard.
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