Miami Heat Regular Season Thread 21-22 Vol. 1

Post #861 » by **MettaWorldPanda** » Wed Dec 8, 2021 1:15 am

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Don’t let this one get away. Sign him to that two way.

3ammy3uck3ts · Post #862 » by **3ammy3uck3ts** » Wed Dec 8, 2021 1:20 am

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Don’t let this one get away. Sign him to that two way.

Gotta bump Martin to a standard contract soon anyways

3ammy3uck3ts · Post #863 » by **3ammy3uck3ts** » Wed Dec 8, 2021 1:22 am

twix2500 wrote:
Flash4thewin wrote:
oreon wrote:
NBA players should stop GMing. I don't know in what universe Ben Simmons in the answer to your playoff woes.
Dame is similar to AD, for him to win he needs another top 5 player. If he were smart he'd be trying to get himself to Philly for Ben Simmons. Philly is the perfect roster for him, it has the guards to compensate for his bad defense and he won't need to be the no 1 option there.

Have you seen how bad certain organizations are? If it wasn't for KG playing GM and refusing to become a Celtic unless they traded for Ray Allen, he would have never won a ring. I dont think anyone even needs to mention the Cavs and their first run with Lebron. How do you think we got the Big Three here? Players playing GM.

Simmons if held accountable, say by a strong organization will get the best out of him, the same with Hcanarden. You think Harden would be out of shape sporting the Santa Claus look here, or that Simmons not taking an open shots would fliny here as an example?

Blazers do not have a history of being a bad organization. They have consistently built highly well competitive playoff teams for the past 40 years. The only negative image of the Blazers that they are always a player, a bounce or injury short of a chip. The media constantly tries to push players to cities that they work in so they can cover those players. Most players do not win a chip moving to another team. Timberwolves is historically been a bad organization, Celtics historically has been a great organization. That is not what the media is pushing. They pushing Dame to leave a historically respected organization for a historical bad one in the Knicks. It's the exactly the mistake Melo made leaving the Nuggets. A historically well respected organization to a crappy one in the Knicks. We watched Wade fall for the okie doke, going to the Bulls then the Cavs.

I rather bet my money that Blazers can find that one move to get them over the hump over the Knicks building a completely new roster that can win a chip.

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Man I just don’t see it. The talent is there, the team just isn’t good. Bringing in a rookie coach to save the franchise was a terrible decisions, Dame obviously going through some things (mentally/physically) causing him to play bad, got rid of the GM midseason, and now CJ has a collapsed lung.

The writing is on the wall, has been for a couple seasons now. Dame and the team both need to realize this before he wastes another season. If he’s not moved this year he will this summer for sure

harlem_ball · Post #864 » by **harlem_ball** » Wed Dec 8, 2021 3:59 am

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this blog sucks :lol:

I think Wade owns it, whats with the Zaire updates? :lol:

can't take it serious at all but I'm a snob about such things :lol:

RexBoyWonder · Post #865 » by **RexBoyWonder** » Wed Dec 8, 2021 6:10 am

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Don’t let this one get away. Sign him to that two way.

Is is he really any worse then Morris?

BTW is Morris dead?

Spo needs to wake up.

Hallstar · Post #866 » by **Hallstar** » Wed Dec 8, 2021 9:24 am

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
oreon wrote:
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I'll pass. There's always something with Kyrie. And this is a man who doesn't mind loosing millions of dollars so he can pretty much do what he wants

Is he not playing because he doesn’t want to right now or is it because being vaccinated is a requirement of the state he’s in?

If he says he’d play for us I would do it in a heartbeat, proven player on the biggest stage and brings the 3 level scoring punch we’re needing. Him and Jimmy tried to team up in the past.

And you keep Herro.

Dipo, Jimmy, Bam, Kyrie, Herro is a super talented group.

Gets us out of what looks to be a bad contract. That upgrades the nets quite a bit though considering Kyrie won’t play for them. That I don’t like lol I hate the nets and their stars

Problem is when he decides he doesn't want to play. Kyrie's just disappeared from the team before.

3ammy3uck3ts · Post #867 » by **3ammy3uck3ts** » Wed Dec 8, 2021 1:43 pm

Hallstar wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
oreon wrote:
I'll pass. There's always something with Kyrie. And this is a man who doesn't mind loosing millions of dollars so he can pretty much do what he wants

Is he not playing because he doesn’t want to right now or is it because being vaccinated is a requirement of the state he’s in?

If he says he’d play for us I would do it in a heartbeat, proven player on the biggest stage and brings the 3 level scoring punch we’re needing. Him and Jimmy tried to team up in the past.

And you keep Herro.

Dipo, Jimmy, Bam, Kyrie, Herro is a super talented group.

Gets us out of what looks to be a bad contract. That upgrades the nets quite a bit though considering Kyrie won’t play for them. That I don’t like lol I hate the nets and their stars

Problem is when he decides he doesn't want to play. Kyrie's just disappeared from the team before.

Yea that’s true

harlem_ball · Post #868 » by **harlem_ball** » Wed Dec 8, 2021 6:00 pm

If Spos going to Beasley Yurt you may as well pick up Potter and drop Yurt to the gLeague and see what they give you.

Maybe the Heat erred in Yurt over Potter.

AirP. · Post #869 » by **AirP.** » Wed Dec 8, 2021 9:15 pm

harlem_ball wrote:If Spos going to Beasley Yurt you may as well pick up Potter and drop Yurt to the gLeague and see what they give you.

Maybe the Heat erred in Yurt over Potter.

The FO is trying to stay out of the tax this year to not start the repeater tax a year early since it's highly probable they'll be in the tax for 2+ years after this year.

This team is barely under the tax which is why the 15th slot is open and C.Martin was added with a 2-way vs a vet minimum contract but I'd expect Miami converts that to a vet minimum at some point and if they do that early enough, Miami could add another 2-way player, the last day to do that is January 15, the same date Robinson is available for trade.

The only way to add another 2-way while staying under the tax would be a trade that sends more money out then they get back to the point they can convert Martin to a vet minimum without going into the tax.

I wouldn't be completely surprised if another team would be willing to basically take a chance on KZ for really nothing but Miami may need to keep him around just in case they need his salary to make a package deal trade because Miami is really limited on contracts they can trade unless they're willing to move Robinson and someone wants him.

oreon · Post #870 » by **oreon** » Wed Dec 8, 2021 10:35 pm

What do you guys think for a trade for Alex len. He makes 3 mil. You do KZ and Haslem + 2nd round picks + cash. Sac has like 4 centers, they can afford to dump him. It would need to be after 15th. He can help with rebounding, rim protection and some pnr baskets that old man Dedmon can't.
Another one would be Torrey Craig. A bad shooter, but he does the other stuff you need a 3/small 4 does. Apart from Caleb and Butler, we don't have any athletic wings

harlem_ball · Post #871 » by **harlem_ball** » Wed Dec 8, 2021 10:42 pm

oreon wrote:What do you guys think for a trade for Alex len. He makes 3 mil. You do KZ and Haslem + 2nd round picks + cash. Sac has like 4 centers, they can afford to dump him. It would need to be after 15th. He can help with rebounding, rim protection and some pnr baskets that old man Dedmon can't.
Another one would be Torrey Craig. A bad shooter, but he does the other stuff you need a 3/small 4 does. Apart from Caleb and Butler, we don't have any athletic wings

LOL @ trading Haslem. That guy is less tradeable than Bam. I like Len but ideally we would like a guy that can rebound and hit the 3. Potter might do it. I don't know much about Craig. I have to research.

harlem_ball · Post #872 » by **harlem_ball** » Wed Dec 8, 2021 10:44 pm

I just read DWade's book at Barnes and Noble. Theres barely any basketball in there. It's just flash and off court strutting. I don't recommend unless your a Wade fangirl or that type of fanboi.

3ammy3uck3ts · Post #873 » by **3ammy3uck3ts** » Thu Dec 9, 2021 6:32 am

Strus and Martin are better players than Duncan, idc if he breaks out of his slump trade him and attach some picks for the best possible upgrade to the roster and let’s get this championship

Post #874 » by **MettaWorldPanda** » Thu Dec 9, 2021 2:29 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:Strus and Martin are better players than Duncan, idc if he breaks out of his slump trade him and attach some picks for the best possible upgrade to the roster and let’s get this championship

Duncan is in trouble for sure and things get even worse for him when Oladipo comes into the fold.

Post #875 » by **MettaWorldPanda** » Thu Dec 9, 2021 2:35 pm

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harlem_ball · Post #876 » by **harlem_ball** » Thu Dec 9, 2021 2:55 pm

It's always interesting to observe how psychology effects a team. The Heat (B squad especially) definitely had an extra bounce to their step trying to show a good face for the nationally televised game.

Post #877 » by **MettaWorldPanda** » Thu Dec 9, 2021 2:59 pm

• Two-Way Player Rules: For the 2021-22 season, each two-way player will be paid a flat salary equal to 50% of the minimum player salary applicable to a player with zero years of service. A player under a two-way contract will be permitted to be on the NBA team’s active list for no more than 50 games during the regular season, with no limit on practices, workouts or other activities with the NBA team. In addition, there will be no deadline for signing two-way contracts with respect to the 2021-22 season, a change from the rule in the Collective Bargaining Agreement that prohibits teams from signing a player to a two-way contract after Jan. 15 of any season.

Good news as it allows us time to make roster decisions with KZ and sign Micah Potter to a two way after Jan 15th once we convert Martin.

HeatFanLifer · Post #878 » by **HeatFanLifer** » Thu Dec 9, 2021 3:05 pm

MettaWorldPanda wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:Strus and Martin are better players than Duncan, idc if he breaks out of his slump trade him and attach some picks for the best possible upgrade to the roster and let’s get this championship

Duncan is in trouble for sure and things get even worse for him when Oladipo comes into the fold.

Send Duncan to Sioux falls and don’t bring him back till he averages 45% 3 pt shooting over 5
games.

Post #879 » by **MettaWorldPanda** » Thu Dec 9, 2021 3:17 pm

HeatFanLifer wrote:
MettaWorldPanda wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:Strus and Martin are better players than Duncan, idc if he breaks out of his slump trade him and attach some picks for the best possible upgrade to the roster and let’s get this championship

Duncan is in trouble for sure and things get even worse for him when Oladipo comes into the fold.

Send Duncan to Sioux falls and don’t bring him back till he averages 45% 3 pt shooting over 5
games.

Duncan Robinson can be traded on Jan 15th and i think he will. Robinson attached with KZ gives us 17.3 million in tradeable contracts. Since the Heat need to stay below the tax with the next two seasons in mind they will look for a contract in return that has a a few million less coming in. Think 15 million dollar player for the 17.3. This then allows us to convert Martin and possibly have enough for a buyout player with last roster spot.

3ammy3uck3ts · Post #880 » by **3ammy3uck3ts** » Thu Dec 9, 2021 3:25 pm

MettaWorldPanda wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:Strus and Martin are better players than Duncan, idc if he breaks out of his slump trade him and attach some picks for the best possible upgrade to the roster and let’s get this championship

Duncan is in trouble for sure and things get even worse for him when Oladipo comes into the fold.

He’s at 23 MPG this month, slowly being taken out of the rotation