GT #25, Cavaliers @ Bucks, 6 December 2021, 8:00 PM ET

[toooskies]

If the Cavs want to eventually get to a place where they consistently beat good teams, then Lauri and Mobley are going to have to get shots in the 4th so the offense is less predictable and more difficult to defend. The way the Jazz sold out on Garland/Mobley on the last possession, and the Bucks began trapping Garland as soon as the Cavs closed the gap, is something you're going to see more and more often. The Spurs didn't have one guy that could beat you, they always had three (or even four with Green/Leonard). I'd rather Mobley and Lauri get pushed into being offensive threats in the fourth quarter and develop into legitimate secondary options with the game on the line than trade for a 2 guard who will have us defaulting into the Portland model. It's just a lot harder to scheme against multiple guys with size in the final two minutes and that's when games are won or lost in the post season. It's also a lot harder to defend them without fouling.

Mobley is 5/11 in crunch time, Lauri is 5/10 (1/6 on threes), Allen is 8/9. The big guys have done fine.

Garland is 8/23 (0/10 on threes), Rubio is 3/13 (1/9 on threes), Osman/Sexton/Okoro a combined 4/16 (2/9 on threes).

So I don't really see a big man problem in crunch time-- their volume is pretty much balanced as secondary guys. I see a problem with outside shooting that's mostly on our most-used guard pairing. We're a collective 5/41 from three in crunch time and Garland/Rubio are 1/19. Rubio's been fine historically in crunch time so maybe it's fatigue for him, or maybe he's got too much scoring responsibility; for Garland it's likely a combination of fatigue, adjusting to being the #1 option in crunch time. It's also a bit of small sample size individually, so either guy (or the whole team) may just turn it around without changing anything.

JBB's rotation has had Rubio play 14 of the last 18 minutes of the game and 16 of the last 18 minutes of the game the past two nights, and he's gone 0-4 at the end of games. That probably needs fixing, whether it's overlapping Rubio and Garland less during the game or putting Rubio/Garland on a similar rotation to Mobley/Allen, with Rubio in the starting lineup so he gets more than a few minutes of rest between his second-half stints.

Allen is essentially an extension of Garland in these numbers, but that aside, how are you defining crunch time? Are the games still close or are the Cavs up by 10+ points because it matters. I'm really curious as to how it's being defined as Garland is 0/10 on threes in your sample.

< 5 minutes left, score within 5. NBA.com's "Clutch" stats.

Edit: here's the link: https://www.nba.com/stats/players/clutch-traditional/?sort=MIN&dir=-1&Season=2021-22&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&TeamID=1610612739&PerMode=Totals

[FranchisePlayer]

Our starting unit really struggles to score when Garland has an off night, and although Okoro is the favorite target of many fans, Mobley and Lauri need to be more aggressive inside if the 3 point arc. This is especially the case when the Cavs are in the bonus.

Anyway, no shame in a close loss to the defending champs at full strength in their building and on the second night of a back to back

Exactly what I was thinking. Sure it sucks to lose a close game like that, again, but to me the glass if half full, not half empty.

A few guys had a clear off night and yet the Cavs managed to stay in touch against another top team. Very promising.

[FranchisePlayer]

A year isn't anywhere near enough time for one and done guys. Okoro and Sexton aside, if you bring in even a moderate usage SG/SF, his shots are going to come at the expense of shots Mobley and Lauri should be taking this season. I just think this team is too green to justify that opportunity cost. They're still feeling out their roles and our starters have only played around 10-15 games this season?

Obviously, if a too good to pass up deal presents itself, the calculus changes. But, I wouldn't burn assets for a replacement level guy yet.

The problem is that they aren't getting those shots anyway in the 4th. I don't want a replacement-level guy, though. That's only marginally better than Rubio playing out-of-position and out-of-role.

If the Cavs want to eventually get to a place where they consistently beat good teams, then Lauri and Mobley are going to have to get shots in the 4th so the offense is less predictable and more difficult to defend. The way the Jazz sold out on Garland/Allen on the last possession, and the Bucks began trapping Garland as soon as the Cavs closed the gap, is something you're going to see more and more often. The Spurs didn't have one guy that could beat you, they always had three (or even four with Green/Leonard). I'd rather Mobley and Lauri get pushed into being offensive threats in the fourth quarter and develop into legitimate secondary options with the game on the line than trade for a 2 guard who will have us defaulting into the Portland model. It's just a lot harder to scheme against multiple guys with size in the final two minutes and that's when games are won or lost in the post season. It's also a lot harder to defend them without fouling.

Well ain't that the truth!

[FranchisePlayer]

Yes, good points, but none of those numbers other than Allen's are actually good. Our crappy floor spacing makes everything much harder than it needs to be on the offensive end, and opponents get dialed in to close out games. otoh, our defense and junk offense is what is keeping us in these games to begin with.

If Garland gets where we hope, he's going to see a lot of trapping, ball denial, pressure, etc. In the Warrior's model Steph needed a secondary playmaker and reliable shooters. Sometimes having a young Harrison Barnes or Festus Ezeli as one of those shooters was a big problem.

If our defense is good enough we won't need the 3's but the 2's need to be a lot more reliable.

floor spacing isnt the problem, the Cavs have no problem getting open shots. Making the shots is the problem. I just watched the Cavs huck 100 threes in the Bucks game and the majority of them are open looks. The problem is, outside of Love/Lauri there isnt a single other player who Rubio/Garland can drive+kick to on the perimeter. Which is why giving Okoro/Stevens 40+ min per night is killing this teams offensive ceiling. Its essentially playing 4v5 every possession and limits your offensive diversity.

The Cavs desperately need a 3/D wing who can pull the defense out and knock down open 3s at a 38-43% rate to open up the offense more.

I wonder what it would take to get a guy like Buddy Heild, Harrison Barnes or any one of the 500 wings the Raps have. I also wonder if the Cavs FO recognize this massive hole in the roster and have any plans to aggressively fix it while the team is looking like a legit playoff team. If I know anything about Dan Gilbert, he doesnt have a lot of patience and wants the Cavs to win sooner rather than later.

If the Cavs have no plans to actually play Windler, package him + draft pick and see what you can get from these seller teams.

I'd want to be sure Lauri, and/or Mobley, isn't the guy you're looking for before trading for any of those players. The Raptors wings aren't great shooters. Buddy's a bad defender who is pretty high usage. Barnes is fine, but again, is he going to be more reliable than Mobley or Lauri in the long run, I'm skeptical. Folks just need to be a little more patient than 20+ games into a season in which we have three new starters and a starting 5 that's only played together for like 10+ games.

I definitely agree with this kind of rational thinking. Way, way premature to start making any moves.

They've played above expectations despite many inactive players so far. Let them gel.

[LivingLegend]

Yes, good points, but none of those numbers other than Allen's are actually good. Our crappy floor spacing makes everything much harder than it needs to be on the offensive end, and opponents get dialed in to close out games. otoh, our defense and junk offense is what is keeping us in these games to begin with.

If Garland gets where we hope, he's going to see a lot of trapping, ball denial, pressure, etc. In the Warrior's model Steph needed a secondary playmaker and reliable shooters. Sometimes having a young Harrison Barnes or Festus Ezeli as one of those shooters was a big problem.

If our defense is good enough we won't need the 3's but the 2's need to be a lot more reliable.

floor spacing isnt the problem, the Cavs have no problem getting open shots. Making the shots is the problem. I just watched the Cavs huck 100 threes in the Bucks game and the majority of them are open looks. The problem is, outside of Love/Lauri there isnt a single other player who Rubio/Garland can drive+kick to on the perimeter. Which is why giving Okoro/Stevens 40+ min per night is killing this teams offensive ceiling. Its essentially playing 4v5 every possession and limits your offensive diversity.

The Cavs desperately need a 3/D wing who can pull the defense out and knock down open 3s at a 38-43% rate to open up the offense more.

I wonder what it would take to get a guy like Buddy Heild, Harrison Barnes or any one of the 500 wings the Raps have. I also wonder if the Cavs FO recognize this massive hole in the roster and have any plans to aggressively fix it while the team is looking like a legit playoff team. If I know anything about Dan Gilbert, he doesnt have a lot of patience and wants the Cavs to win sooner rather than later.

If the Cavs have no plans to actually play Windler, package him + draft pick and see what you can get from these seller teams.

Cedi is shooting 40% on the year. His 1/8 sample size yesterday is roughly two fewer makes than you'd expect.

Yeah Cedi can, but the Cavs need more than 1 capable wing on the entire roster who can shoot the ball especially if your hellbent on playing Okoro/Stevens 40+ combined mins per night.

[toooskies]

floor spacing isnt the problem, the Cavs have no problem getting open shots. Making the shots is the problem. I just watched the Cavs huck 100 threes in the Bucks game and the majority of them are open looks. The problem is, outside of Love/Lauri there isnt a single other player who Rubio/Garland can drive+kick to on the perimeter. Which is why giving Okoro/Stevens 40+ min per night is killing this teams offensive ceiling. Its essentially playing 4v5 every possession and limits your offensive diversity.

The Cavs desperately need a 3/D wing who can pull the defense out and knock down open 3s at a 38-43% rate to open up the offense more.

I wonder what it would take to get a guy like Buddy Heild, Harrison Barnes or any one of the 500 wings the Raps have. I also wonder if the Cavs FO recognize this massive hole in the roster and have any plans to aggressively fix it while the team is looking like a legit playoff team. If I know anything about Dan Gilbert, he doesnt have a lot of patience and wants the Cavs to win sooner rather than later.

If the Cavs have no plans to actually play Windler, package him + draft pick and see what you can get from these seller teams.

I'd want to be sure Lauri, and/or Mobley, isn't the guy you're looking for before trading for any of those players. The Raptors wings aren't great shooters. Buddy's a bad defender who is pretty high usage. Barnes is fine, but again, is he going to be more reliable than Mobley or Lauri in the long run, I'm skeptical. Folks just need to be a little more patient than 20+ games into a season in which we have three new starters and a starting 5 that's only played together for like 10+ games.

I definitely agree with this kind of rational thinking. Way, way premature to start making any moves.

They've played above expectations despite many inactive players so far. Let them gel.

The question is, who is our SG next year? Sexton? Rubio?

I mean, doing nothing is fine if the plan is to try to re-sign Collin and Ricky, or give the job to Okoro. If it isn't the plan, we should be looking for the right guy for next season-- we already know everything we're going to know about Collin, and we have a pretty good idea about Ricky.

If, in looking for the right guy for next season and beyond, we come across an option that makes this year's team better, we should do that.

But I think the timeline for caring about results instead of primarily development is really close. Probably not this year, but definitely next year. Getting a 30 year-old McCollum or 33 year-old Gordon should definitely be options.

[LivingLegend]

Yes, good points, but none of those numbers other than Allen's are actually good. Our crappy floor spacing makes everything much harder than it needs to be on the offensive end, and opponents get dialed in to close out games. otoh, our defense and junk offense is what is keeping us in these games to begin with.

If Garland gets where we hope, he's going to see a lot of trapping, ball denial, pressure, etc. In the Warrior's model Steph needed a secondary playmaker and reliable shooters. Sometimes having a young Harrison Barnes or Festus Ezeli as one of those shooters was a big problem.

If our defense is good enough we won't need the 3's but the 2's need to be a lot more reliable.

floor spacing isnt the problem, the Cavs have no problem getting open shots. Making the shots is the problem. I just watched the Cavs huck 100 threes in the Bucks game and the majority of them are open looks. The problem is, outside of Love/Lauri there isnt a single other player who Rubio/Garland can drive+kick to on the perimeter. Which is why giving Okoro/Stevens 40+ min per night is killing this teams offensive ceiling. Its essentially playing 4v5 every possession and limits your offensive diversity.

The Cavs desperately need a 3/D wing who can pull the defense out and knock down open 3s at a 38-43% rate to open up the offense more.

I wonder what it would take to get a guy like Buddy Heild, Harrison Barnes or any one of the 500 wings the Raps have. I also wonder if the Cavs FO recognize this massive hole in the roster and have any plans to aggressively fix it while the team is looking like a legit playoff team. If I know anything about Dan Gilbert, he doesnt have a lot of patience and wants the Cavs to win sooner rather than later.

If the Cavs have no plans to actually play Windler, package him + draft pick and see what you can get from these seller teams.

I'd want to be sure Lauri, and/or Mobley, isn't the guy you're looking for before trading for any of those players. The Raptors wings aren't great shooters. Buddy's a bad defender who is pretty high usage. Barnes is fine, but again, is he going to be more reliable than Mobley or Lauri in the long run, I'm skeptical. Folks just need to be a little more patient than 20+ games into a season in which we have three new starters and a starting 5 that's only played together for like 10+ games.

Im not looking for somebody to come in and replace Lauri/Mobley mins or shots. If anything Im looking for a player who is a positive compliment to Okoro and take some of his mins/shots. I think bringing a guy like Barnes off the bench for 15-20min per game to camp on the arc and knock down shots would be huge for this team and scrap the whole Lamar Stevens experience.

As far as Heild, I wouldnt be worried about his defense. Sure hes not a great defender but neither way Lauri and look at what hes been doing in a different situation on a winning team. Its great to have everybody so defensive minded, but you need to be able to be a good dynamic scoring team to beat the good teams in this league--you cant just rely on beating everybody with good defense and a predictable P&R offense. Gotta be more dynamic and Heild/Barnes would both add another layer to the Cavs offense.

At the end of the day, Im looking for a player to come in here and assume the role Dylan Windler was supposed to have.

[jbk1234]

I'd want to be sure Lauri, and/or Mobley, isn't the guy you're looking for before trading for any of those players. The Raptors wings aren't great shooters. Buddy's a bad defender who is pretty high usage. Barnes is fine, but again, is he going to be more reliable than Mobley or Lauri in the long run, I'm skeptical. Folks just need to be a little more patient than 20+ games into a season in which we have three new starters and a starting 5 that's only played together for like 10+ games.

I definitely agree with this kind of rational thinking. Way, way premature to start making any moves.

They've played above expectations despite many inactive players so far. Let them gel.

The question is, who is our SG next year? Sexton? Rubio?

I mean, doing nothing is fine if the plan is to try to re-sign Collin and Ricky, or give the job to Okoro. If it isn't the plan, we should be looking for the right guy for next season-- we already know everything we're going to know about Collin, and we have a pretty good idea about Ricky.

If, in looking for the right guy for next season and beyond, we come across an option that makes this year's team better, we should do that.

But I think the timeline for caring about results instead of primarily development is really close. Probably not this year, but definitely next year. Getting a 30 year-old McCollum or 33 year-old Gordon should definitely be options.

Let me put it this way, I'd rather talk a McCollum/Love swap this summer when Love has one year left on his deal and McCollum has two. I think you get away with adding minimal, if any, incentive to that deal. Frankly, CJ will be 31 and if things continue to implode for the Blazers and he looks like he lost a step, maybe the Cavs decide to go in an entirely different direction. Maybe Okoro develops enough of a jumper to justify keeping him as a starter. Maybe a three or four year college player drops to where the Cavs are drafting. Maybe Sexton finds his F.A. market wanting. I feel like it's too soon to tell what the Cavs are going to need over the next 2-3 years so maybe don't make a trade that will force you to commit to a guy until you do.

[toooskies]

Let me put it this way, I'd rather talk a McCollum/Love swap this summer when Love has one year left on his deal and McCollum has two. I think you get away with adding minimal, if any, incentive to that deal. Frankly, CJ will be 31 and if things continue to implode for the Blazers and he looks like he lost a step, maybe the Cavs decide to go in an entirely different direction. Maybe Okoro develops enough of a jumper to justify keeping him as a starter. Maybe a three or four year college player drops to where the Cavs are drafting. Maybe Sexton finds his F.A. market wanting. I feel like it's too soon to tell what the Cavs are going to need over the next 2-3 years so maybe don't make a trade that will force you to commit to a guy until you do.

With McCollum out for who knows how long with the collapsed lung (so yeah, let's not trade for him this month-- he might need surgery) and Lillard out with the abdominal issue, things might turn south for Portland pretty quickly and he might be available mid-season and be gone to some other team before the offseason. They might be fine with tanking whatever they need to do in the offseason. The fact that they have an interim GM means they can trade their fan-favorite guys and then have a new GM come in who doesn't get blamed when it's time to move on.

The thing about the offseason is that everyone has more flexibility so I assume the price will be higher.

McCollum, though, has shown very few signs of slowing down. While everyone on the trade boards assumes he's an albatross, he might just produce at his current level till he's 35 or older.

[JonFromVA]

Mobley is 5/11 in crunch time, Lauri is 5/10 (1/6 on threes), Allen is 8/9. The big guys have done fine.

Garland is 8/23 (0/10 on threes), Rubio is 3/13 (1/9 on threes), Osman/Sexton/Okoro a combined 4/16 (2/9 on threes).

So I don't really see a big man problem in crunch time-- their volume is pretty much balanced as secondary guys. I see a problem with outside shooting that's mostly on our most-used guard pairing. We're a collective 5/41 from three in crunch time and Garland/Rubio are 1/19. Rubio's been fine historically in crunch time so maybe it's fatigue for him, or maybe he's got too much scoring responsibility; for Garland it's likely a combination of fatigue, adjusting to being the #1 option in crunch time. It's also a bit of small sample size individually, so either guy (or the whole team) may just turn it around without changing anything.

JBB's rotation has had Rubio play 14 of the last 18 minutes of the game and 16 of the last 18 minutes of the game the past two nights, and he's gone 0-4 at the end of games. That probably needs fixing, whether it's overlapping Rubio and Garland less during the game or putting Rubio/Garland on a similar rotation to Mobley/Allen, with Rubio in the starting lineup so he gets more than a few minutes of rest between his second-half stints.

Yes, good points, but none of those numbers other than Allen's are actually good. Our crappy floor spacing makes everything much harder than it needs to be on the offensive end, and opponents get dialed in to close out games. otoh, our defense and junk offense is what is keeping us in these games to begin with.

If Garland gets where we hope, he's going to see a lot of trapping, ball denial, pressure, etc. In the Warrior's model Steph needed a secondary playmaker and reliable shooters. Sometimes having a young Harrison Barnes or Festus Ezeli as one of those shooters was a big problem.

If our defense is good enough we won't need the 3's but the 2's need to be a lot more reliable.

floor spacing isnt the problem, the Cavs have no problem getting open shots. Making the shots is the problem. I just watched the Cavs huck 100 threes in the Bucks game and the majority of them are open looks. The problem is, outside of Love/Lauri there isnt a single other player who Rubio/Garland can drive+kick to on the perimeter. Which is why giving Okoro/Stevens 40+ min per night is killing this teams offensive ceiling. Its essentially playing 4v5 every possession and limits your offensive diversity.

The Cavs desperately need a 3/D wing who can pull the defense out and knock down open 3s at a 38-43% rate to open up the offense more.

I wonder what it would take to get a guy like Buddy Heild, Harrison Barnes or any one of the 500 wings the Raps have. I also wonder if the Cavs FO recognize this massive hole in the roster and have any plans to aggressively fix it while the team is looking like a legit playoff team. If I know anything about Dan Gilbert, he doesnt have a lot of patience and wants the Cavs to win sooner rather than later.

If the Cavs have no plans to actually play Windler, package him + draft pick and see what you can get from these seller teams.

Floor spacing is not a schematic thing so much as having shooters good enough to bend the defense. This makes scoring inside easier and leads to higher quality shots. The prinary schematic part is using enough plus shooters so the D can't cheat.

The thing is, its really hard to play defense at a high level and have the legs to knock down shots. Maybe JBB just wants them to get used to it? Most other coaches try to use their v bench more to sustain energy levels

[LivingLegend]

Yes, good points, but none of those numbers other than Allen's are actually good. Our crappy floor spacing makes everything much harder than it needs to be on the offensive end, and opponents get dialed in to close out games. otoh, our defense and junk offense is what is keeping us in these games to begin with.

If Garland gets where we hope, he's going to see a lot of trapping, ball denial, pressure, etc. In the Warrior's model Steph needed a secondary playmaker and reliable shooters. Sometimes having a young Harrison Barnes or Festus Ezeli as one of those shooters was a big problem.

If our defense is good enough we won't need the 3's but the 2's need to be a lot more reliable.

floor spacing isnt the problem, the Cavs have no problem getting open shots. Making the shots is the problem. I just watched the Cavs huck 100 threes in the Bucks game and the majority of them are open looks. The problem is, outside of Love/Lauri there isnt a single other player who Rubio/Garland can drive+kick to on the perimeter. Which is why giving Okoro/Stevens 40+ min per night is killing this teams offensive ceiling. Its essentially playing 4v5 every possession and limits your offensive diversity.

The Cavs desperately need a 3/D wing who can pull the defense out and knock down open 3s at a 38-43% rate to open up the offense more.

I wonder what it would take to get a guy like Buddy Heild, Harrison Barnes or any one of the 500 wings the Raps have. I also wonder if the Cavs FO recognize this massive hole in the roster and have any plans to aggressively fix it while the team is looking like a legit playoff team. If I know anything about Dan Gilbert, he doesnt have a lot of patience and wants the Cavs to win sooner rather than later.

If the Cavs have no plans to actually play Windler, package him + draft pick and see what you can get from these seller teams.

Floor spacing is not a schematic thing so much as having shooters good enough to bend the defense. This makes scoring inside easier and leads to higher quality shots. The prinary schematic part is using enough plus shooters so the D can't cheat.

The thing is, its really hard to play defense at a high level and have the legs to knock down shots. Maybe JBB just wants them to get used to it? Most other coaches try to use their v bench more to sustain energy levels

Maybe but thats all the more reason to invest in a knock down shooter. Imagine if you put somebody like....JR Smith on this Cavs team how much him sitting around the arc pulling the defense out would open the paint for Mobley/Allen/Love/Lauri as well as Garland/Rubio driving lanes.

We need to stop acting like defenses playing 10 ft. off Okoro/Stevens so they can sag into the paint isnt a real problem for this offense, especially against the top tier teams in the league.

The Cavs dont need to go crazy and spend a bunch for a great asset. They just need somebody who can cause the defense to stay connected to them on the arc and open up the paint. You know, a guy like this:

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[toooskies]

floor spacing isnt the problem, the Cavs have no problem getting open shots. Making the shots is the problem. I just watched the Cavs huck 100 threes in the Bucks game and the majority of them are open looks. The problem is, outside of Love/Lauri there isnt a single other player who Rubio/Garland can drive+kick to on the perimeter. Which is why giving Okoro/Stevens 40+ min per night is killing this teams offensive ceiling. Its essentially playing 4v5 every possession and limits your offensive diversity.

The Cavs desperately need a 3/D wing who can pull the defense out and knock down open 3s at a 38-43% rate to open up the offense more.

I wonder what it would take to get a guy like Buddy Heild, Harrison Barnes or any one of the 500 wings the Raps have. I also wonder if the Cavs FO recognize this massive hole in the roster and have any plans to aggressively fix it while the team is looking like a legit playoff team. If I know anything about Dan Gilbert, he doesnt have a lot of patience and wants the Cavs to win sooner rather than later.

If the Cavs have no plans to actually play Windler, package him + draft pick and see what you can get from these seller teams.

Floor spacing is not a schematic thing so much as having shooters good enough to bend the defense. This makes scoring inside easier and leads to higher quality shots. The prinary schematic part is using enough plus shooters so the D can't cheat.

The thing is, its really hard to play defense at a high level and have the legs to knock down shots. Maybe JBB just wants them to get used to it? Most other coaches try to use their v bench more to sustain energy levels

Maybe but thats all the more reason to invest in a knock down shooter. Imagine if you put somebody like....JR Smith on this Cavs team how much him sitting around the arc pulling the defense out would open the paint for Mobley/Allen/Love/Lauri as well as Garland/Rubio driving lanes.

We need to stop acting like defenses playing 10 ft. off Okoro/Stevens so they can sag into the paint isnt a real problem for this offense, especially against the top tier teams in the league.

The Cavs dont need to go crazy and spend a bunch for a great asset. They just need somebody who can cause the defense to stay connected to them on the arc and open up the paint. You know, a guy like this:

Read on Twitter

Yes, we need someone who can do at the NBA level what Dylan Windler can do at a G-League level.

[LivingLegend]

Floor spacing is not a schematic thing so much as having shooters good enough to bend the defense. This makes scoring inside easier and leads to higher quality shots. The prinary schematic part is using enough plus shooters so the D can't cheat.

The thing is, its really hard to play defense at a high level and have the legs to knock down shots. Maybe JBB just wants them to get used to it? Most other coaches try to use their v bench more to sustain energy levels

Maybe but thats all the more reason to invest in a knock down shooter. Imagine if you put somebody like....JR Smith on this Cavs team how much him sitting around the arc pulling the defense out would open the paint for Mobley/Allen/Love/Lauri as well as Garland/Rubio driving lanes.

We need to stop acting like defenses playing 10 ft. off Okoro/Stevens so they can sag into the paint isnt a real problem for this offense, especially against the top tier teams in the league.

The Cavs dont need to go crazy and spend a bunch for a great asset. They just need somebody who can cause the defense to stay connected to them on the arc and open up the paint. You know, a guy like this:

Read on Twitter

Yes, we need someone who can do at the NBA level what Dylan Windler can do at a G-League level.

Exactly. Or just wait for Windler to get his legs back under him in 5ish G-League games or so and then actually give him mins on the Cavs and pay nothing for this upgrade.