Why did the Warriors not pick up a cheap good Center in the offseason?

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Re: Why did the Warriors not pick up a cheap good Center in the offseason? 

Post#61 » by sfballa13 » Tue Dec 7, 2021 5:38 am

MindState wrote:Because they have a 20 year old 7 footer who they are going to develop over the season into their starting center. They dont need any other bigs, they play center by committee anyways.

I can only imagine how good Wiseman will look when hes no longer surrounded by terrible players and g-leaguers.


Wiseman is trash - Curry/Klay/Draymond's window is closing

They need to package Wiseman + Kuminga/Moody for a big (Sabonis/Christian Wood)
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Re: Why did the Warriors not pick up a cheap good Center in the offseason? 

Post#62 » by MindState » Tue Dec 7, 2021 5:40 am

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MindState wrote:Because they have a 20 year old 7 footer who they are going to develop over the season into their starting center. They dont need any other bigs, they play center by committee anyways.

I can only imagine how good Wiseman will look when hes no longer surrounded by terrible players and g-leaguers.


Wiseman is trash - Curry/Klay/Draymond's window is closing

They need to package Wiseman + Kuminga/Moody for a big (Sabonis/Christian Wood)


Bruh. Warriors wouldnt trade Kuminga straight up for any of those players, let alone adding Wiseman.
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Re: Why did the Warriors not pick up a cheap good Center in the offseason? 

Post#63 » by ceiling raiser » Tue Dec 7, 2021 5:48 am

Klay back in a few weeks, Wiseman back in January. If they could win with Looney, they can win with Wiseman. He can play himself into shape for the playoffs once his rehab is complete, and the Warriors will probably want reps with the smallball lineup anyway.

Steph-Klay-Wiggins-Iggy-Dray will be a great closing unit.
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Re: Why did the Warriors not pick up a cheap good Center in the offseason? 

Post#64 » by durden_tyler » Tue Dec 7, 2021 5:50 am

They don't need to. A traditional center will slow them down.
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Re: Why did the Warriors not pick up a cheap good Center in the offseason? 

Post#65 » by Commodor » Tue Dec 7, 2021 6:11 am

If GSW does make a move for a C I hope Robin Lopez gets bought out. Would be a great fit as a back up C.

As for trading for Turner (a career average player overachieving through 20 games), Sabonis (solid player but likely way overpriced), or Woods (career loser who has learned to put up some stats) I’m gonna pass.
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Re: Why did the Warriors not pick up a cheap good Center in the offseason? 

Post#66 » by Commodor » Tue Dec 7, 2021 6:12 am

sfballa13 wrote:
MindState wrote:Because they have a 20 year old 7 footer who they are going to develop over the season into their starting center. They dont need any other bigs, they play center by committee anyways.

I can only imagine how good Wiseman will look when hes no longer surrounded by terrible players and g-leaguers.


Wiseman is trash - Curry/Klay/Draymond's window is closing

They need to package Wiseman + Kuminga/Moody for a big (Sabonis/Christian Wood)


Didn’t they say that last year about Curry?

What’s GSW’s record again?
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Re: Why did the Warriors not pick up a cheap good Center in the offseason? 

Post#67 » by Upperclass » Tue Dec 7, 2021 6:21 am

Kuminga is their starting Center soon enough
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Re: Why did the Warriors not pick up a cheap good Center in the offseason? 

Post#68 » by sfballa13 » Thu Dec 9, 2021 3:53 am

MindState wrote:
sfballa13 wrote:
MindState wrote:Because they have a 20 year old 7 footer who they are going to develop over the season into their starting center. They dont need any other bigs, they play center by committee anyways.

I can only imagine how good Wiseman will look when hes no longer surrounded by terrible players and g-leaguers.


Wiseman is trash - Curry/Klay/Draymond's window is closing

They need to package Wiseman + Kuminga/Moody for a big (Sabonis/Christian Wood)


Bruh. Warriors wouldnt trade Kuminga straight up for any of those players, let alone adding Wiseman.


Bruh, Warriors are contending NOW not in 3 years.

Wiseman played the same amount of games as Greg Oden and put up nearly the same stats in their rookie season.

Warriors massively dropped the Ball by going with Wiseman over LaMelo - one of the biggest draft errors since Darko.

Getting Sabonis for Wiseman/Kuminga (both have contributed nothing to their 20-4 start) would be a HUGE upgrade and pretty much guarantee 1 if not 2 rings in the next 3 years.

Sabonis is putting up 18 pts / 12 rebounds / 4 assists on 57% shooting and you would rather have Wiseman?

Thanks for the laughs :lol:
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Re: Why did the Warriors not pick up a cheap good Center in the offseason? 

Post#69 » by MindState » Thu Dec 9, 2021 4:20 am

sfballa13 wrote:
MindState wrote:
sfballa13 wrote:
Wiseman is trash - Curry/Klay/Draymond's window is closing

They need to package Wiseman + Kuminga/Moody for a big (Sabonis/Christian Wood)


Bruh. Warriors wouldnt trade Kuminga straight up for any of those players, let alone adding Wiseman.


Bruh, Warriors are contending NOW not in 3 years.

Wiseman played the same amount of games as Greg Oden and put up nearly the same stats in their rookie season.

Warriors massively dropped the Ball by going with Wiseman over LaMelo - one of the biggest draft errors since Darko.

Getting Sabonis for Wiseman/Kuminga (both have contributed nothing to their 20-4 start) would be a HUGE upgrade and pretty much guarantee 1 if not 2 rings in the next 3 years.

Sabonis is putting up 18 pts / 12 rebounds / 4 assists on 57% shooting and you would rather have Wiseman?

Thanks for the laughs :lol:


You say that as if Sabonis would put up those numbers on the Warriors.

Any center that plays in the warriors system is relegated to defense, rebounding, and lobs. Thats it.

Warriors are in no position to need to make a trade. No superteams exist, they have the best record in the league, and can afford to develop the young guys.
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Re: Why did the Warriors not pick up a cheap good Center in the offseason? 

Post#70 » by Big J » Thu Dec 9, 2021 4:36 am

sfballa13 wrote:
MindState wrote:
sfballa13 wrote:
Wiseman is trash - Curry/Klay/Draymond's window is closing

They need to package Wiseman + Kuminga/Moody for a big (Sabonis/Christian Wood)


Bruh. Warriors wouldnt trade Kuminga straight up for any of those players, let alone adding Wiseman.


Bruh, Warriors are contending NOW not in 3 years.

Wiseman played the same amount of games as Greg Oden and put up nearly the same stats in their rookie season.

Warriors massively dropped the Ball by going with Wiseman over LaMelo - one of the biggest draft errors since Darko.

Getting Sabonis for Wiseman/Kuminga (both have contributed nothing to their 20-4 start) would be a HUGE upgrade and pretty much guarantee 1 if not 2 rings in the next 3 years.

Sabonis is putting up 18 pts / 12 rebounds / 4 assists on 57% shooting and you would rather have Wiseman?

Thanks for the laughs :lol:


Wiseman does things athletically that Sabonis couldn’t dream of doing. He could be a beast if he puts it all together.
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Re: Why did the Warriors not pick up a cheap good Center in the offseason? 

Post#71 » by Warriors Analyst » Thu Dec 9, 2021 4:52 am

Big J wrote:
sfballa13 wrote:
MindState wrote:
Bruh. Warriors wouldnt trade Kuminga straight up for any of those players, let alone adding Wiseman.


Bruh, Warriors are contending NOW not in 3 years.

Wiseman played the same amount of games as Greg Oden and put up nearly the same stats in their rookie season.

Warriors massively dropped the Ball by going with Wiseman over LaMelo - one of the biggest draft errors since Darko.

Getting Sabonis for Wiseman/Kuminga (both have contributed nothing to their 20-4 start) would be a HUGE upgrade and pretty much guarantee 1 if not 2 rings in the next 3 years.

Sabonis is putting up 18 pts / 12 rebounds / 4 assists on 57% shooting and you would rather have Wiseman?

Thanks for the laughs :lol:


Wiseman does things athletically that Sabonis couldn’t dream of doing. He could be a beast if he puts it all together.


On the flip side, Sabonis actually knows how to play. Seems important.
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Re: Why did the Warriors not pick up a cheap good Center in the offseason? 

Post#72 » by xdrta+ » Thu Dec 9, 2021 6:28 am

sfballa13 wrote:
MindState wrote:
sfballa13 wrote:
Wiseman is trash - Curry/Klay/Draymond's window is closing

They need to package Wiseman + Kuminga/Moody for a big (Sabonis/Christian Wood)


Bruh. Warriors wouldnt trade Kuminga straight up for any of those players, let alone adding Wiseman.


Bruh, Warriors are contending NOW not in 3 years.

Wiseman played the same amount of games as Greg Oden and put up nearly the same stats in their rookie season.

Warriors massively dropped the Ball by going with Wiseman over LaMelo - one of the biggest draft errors since Darko.

Getting Sabonis for Wiseman/Kuminga (both have contributed nothing to their 20-4 start) would be a HUGE upgrade and pretty much guarantee 1 if not 2 rings in the next 3 years.

Sabonis is putting up 18 pts / 12 rebounds / 4 assists on 57% shooting and you would rather have Wiseman?

Thanks for the laughs :lol:


Wiseman sounds terrible, tracking to be another Oden. Why would anyone give up Sabonis for him? Doesn't make sense.
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Re: Why did the Warriors not pick up a cheap good Center in the offseason? 

Post#73 » by DroseReturnChi » Thu Dec 9, 2021 7:13 am

sfballa13 wrote:
Bruh, Warriors are contending NOW not in 3 years.

Wiseman played the same amount of games as Greg Oden and put up nearly the same stats in their rookie season.

Warriors massively dropped the Ball by going with Wiseman over LaMelo - one of the biggest draft errors since Darko.

Getting Sabonis for Wiseman/Kuminga (both have contributed nothing to their 20-4 start) would be a HUGE upgrade and pretty much guarantee 1 if not 2 rings in the next 3 years.

Sabonis is putting up 18 pts / 12 rebounds / 4 assists on 57% shooting and you would rather have Wiseman?

Thanks for the laughs :lol:


my only rationale for gs move is they prefer acting as a small market team preparing post curry while not losing their value.
lacob might prefer being a playoff treadmill team for next decade rather than get 1 more ring and disappear like the kings.
gs is not a traditional powerhouse like the lakers where they can be a title team every 5 yr.

add to their despise of big men, they prefer wings even if it means no starting center.
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Re: Why did the Warriors not pick up a cheap good Center in the offseason? 

Post#74 » by whatisacenter » Thu Dec 9, 2021 7:42 am

DroseReturnChi wrote:
sfballa13 wrote:
Bruh, Warriors are contending NOW not in 3 years.

Wiseman played the same amount of games as Greg Oden and put up nearly the same stats in their rookie season.

Warriors massively dropped the Ball by going with Wiseman over LaMelo - one of the biggest draft errors since Darko.

Getting Sabonis for Wiseman/Kuminga (both have contributed nothing to their 20-4 start) would be a HUGE upgrade and pretty much guarantee 1 if not 2 rings in the next 3 years.

Sabonis is putting up 18 pts / 12 rebounds / 4 assists on 57% shooting and you would rather have Wiseman?

Thanks for the laughs :lol:


my only rationale for gs move is they prefer acting as a small market team preparing post curry while not losing their value.
lacob might prefer being a playoff treadmill team for next decade rather than get 1 more ring and disappear like the kings.
gs is not a traditional powerhouse like the lakers where they can be a title team every 5 yr.

add to their despise of big men, they prefer wings even if it means no starting center.

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Re: Why did the Warriors not pick up a cheap good Center in the offseason? 

Post#75 » by Warriorfan » Thu Dec 9, 2021 9:27 am

sfballa13 wrote:
MindState wrote:
sfballa13 wrote:
Wiseman is trash - Curry/Klay/Draymond's window is closing

They need to package Wiseman + Kuminga/Moody for a big (Sabonis/Christian Wood)


Bruh. Warriors wouldnt trade Kuminga straight up for any of those players, let alone adding Wiseman.


Bruh, Warriors are contending NOW not in 3 years.

Wiseman played the same amount of games as Greg Oden and put up nearly the same stats in their rookie season.

Warriors massively dropped the Ball by going with Wiseman over LaMelo - one of the biggest draft errors since Darko.

Getting Sabonis for Wiseman/Kuminga (both have contributed nothing to their 20-4 start) would be a HUGE upgrade and pretty much guarantee 1 if not 2 rings in the next 3 years.

Sabonis is putting up 18 pts / 12 rebounds / 4 assists on 57% shooting and you would rather have Wiseman?

Thanks for the laughs :lol:



For perspective.

It's not fantasy basketball
Sabonis is best player on a bad team.

Looney is giving almost half the production on a third of the cost.

You don't know for sure if Sabonis is a system fit and may be 3rd or 4th option. Plus he is not a rim protector.

You also get to keep your cost controlled assets that you would be selling at a low since they are not playing.

Also lately GS drafts well hitting on Curry, Klay,Green Pool Barnes Looney. Paschal was all rookie and Udoh went for Bogut.
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Re: Why did the Warriors not pick up a cheap good Center in the offseason? 

Post#76 » by DroseReturnChi » Thu Dec 9, 2021 9:30 am

Big J wrote:
Wiseman does things athletically that Sabonis couldn’t dream of doing. He could be a beast if he puts it all together.


put together what? sabonis/doncic/sengun proved you dont need raw athleticism to be successful. gs would be lucky if he became whiteside. whiteside/drummond are max players they are just born wrong time switch with curry.
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Re: Why did the Warriors not pick up a cheap good Center in the offseason? 

Post#77 » by michaelm » Thu Dec 9, 2021 11:19 am

Warriorfan wrote:
sfballa13 wrote:
MindState wrote:
Bruh. Warriors wouldnt trade Kuminga straight up for any of those players, let alone adding Wiseman.


Bruh, Warriors are contending NOW not in 3 years.

Wiseman played the same amount of games as Greg Oden and put up nearly the same stats in their rookie season.

Warriors massively dropped the Ball by going with Wiseman over LaMelo - one of the biggest draft errors since Darko.

Getting Sabonis for Wiseman/Kuminga (both have contributed nothing to their 20-4 start) would be a HUGE upgrade and pretty much guarantee 1 if not 2 rings in the next 3 years.

Sabonis is putting up 18 pts / 12 rebounds / 4 assists on 57% shooting and you would rather have Wiseman?

Thanks for the laughs :lol:



For perspective.

It's not fantasy basketball
Sabonis is best player on a bad team.

Looney is giving almost half the production on a third of the cost.

You don't know for sure if Sabonis is a system fit and may be 3rd or 4th option. Plus he is not a rim protector.

You also get to keep your cost controlled assets that you would be selling at a low since they are not playing.

Also lately GS drafts well hitting on Curry, Klay,Green Pool Barnes Looney. Paschal was all rookie and Udoh went for Bogut.

Exactly. Lacob et al have been admirably cost no object, but are paying pretty much the most luxury tax ever as I understand it. They might go further into it for an out and out superstar, but not if it takes every young cost controlled asset and kills the team for a decade given Lacob has an expensive Chase Center to pay for.
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Re: Why did the Warriors not pick up a cheap good Center in the offseason? 

Post#78 » by LBJKB24MJ23 » Thu Dec 9, 2021 12:26 pm

UcanUwill wrote:
dj20001 wrote:
dkb965 wrote:
I think if they traded for him they would cement themselves as the favorites. He is on a great contract, so they can afford to trade for him and keep their big three and Wiggins. He would fit their style of play like a glove as well.


Would be shocking to see them trade for Sabonis and not have give up any of those 4.


Domantas sabonis for Kuminga/Wiseman/Toscano and 2 first round picks works. Would Indy say no?


if there is a big man from Indiana the Warriors should trade for, its Myles Turner. not Sabonis
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Re: Why did the Warriors not pick up a cheap good Center in the offseason? 

Post#79 » by Bankai » Thu Dec 9, 2021 1:28 pm

wfiles wrote:Howard, McGee, Drummond, Whiteside was available. It's clear their biggest weakness is the Center position. They will get abused by Ayton, Jokic, Gobert, AD in the playoffs. Are they really going to rely on James Bustman and Kevon Looney?


I personally dont think any of those guys would move the needle for the Warriors more than Wiseman and Looney.
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Post#80 » by HEAT33 » Thu Dec 9, 2021 2:01 pm

I think Wiseman will turn it around. Maybe even a breakout year next year
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