Garrison Mathews - Professional Shooter

closg00 · Post #241 » by **closg00** » Tue Dec 7, 2021 1:30 pm

Correct me if I don't have the facts right, but I recall the thinking/speculation is that the draft night moves, which included selecting Kispert and ultimately letting Matthews go, resulted in some cost/cap savings for us, we would have had to given Matthews some kind of small deal. I was not a fan of Tommy's draft moves, except for swinging on Todd, I wanted McBride.

payitforward · Post #242 » by **payitforward** » Tue Dec 7, 2021 6:08 pm

payitforward wrote:In his last 5 games, Mathews is 19-41 on 3-pointers. He's also 8-9 on 2-pointers. & 8-10 from the line.
That's 81 points on 50 FGAs & 10 FTAs. A TS% of 74.4%.... Houston ... -- they're on a 5 game winning streak...

Add 1 more game since then: 4-6 on 3pas, 7 boards, & another Houston win -- now it's a 6 game winning streak.

payitforward · Post #243 » by **payitforward** » Tue Dec 7, 2021 6:37 pm

closg00 wrote:Correct me if I don't have the facts right, but I recall the thinking/speculation is that the draft night moves, which included selecting Kispert and ultimately letting Matthews go, resulted in some cost/cap savings for us, we would have had to given Matthews some kind of small deal....

No savings, no. In fact, the opposite.

Holiday costs $4m. Todd costs $1.5m --$5.5m total. If we'd signed Mathews for $2m -- more than he's making now -- & used the #22 pick, that's a total of $4.5m.

Far more important, however, is the fact that we'd have Mathews tied up for the next 2-3 years. Instead, Holiday is expiring. I imagine he'll be gone at the end of this year. Looking for a job & very possibly out of the league, since he isn't at all good.

If we absolutely had to have Todd -- it was Todd or no one -- we could have picked him @#22. I don't think anyone would have done that, however. So, instead of Todd we'd have whoever we picked @ #22. Plug in one of the guys picked in that range. Or traded that pick down to get Todd & another pick. Or maybe traded the #15 & #22 for a higher pick -- that combo might get you the #7 pick?

Doesn't matter -- main point is that it's great to see Mathews doing so well. It's also no big surprise, & it was idiotic to throw away an asset of his value!

Endless Loop · Post #244 » by **Endless Loop** » Wed Dec 8, 2021 12:19 am

It's only one night, but it's still nice to know that the Wiz might have some good shooters in the minor leagues.

Jordan Schakel was 7-11 from 3 last night, after a very cold start to the season- but a great college career.

And none other than Isaah Todd was 6-9! He's shooting 41% from 3 for the year.

The G League season is young, but hope is eternal.

GoneShammGone · Post #245 » by **GoneShammGone** » Wed Dec 8, 2021 3:27 pm

payitforward wrote:...
Doesn't matter -- main point is that it's great to see Mathews doing so well. It's also no big surprise, & it was idiotic to throw away an asset of his value!

Yup, Garrison is exactly the kind of player that you keep: extremely good at an important skill, hard worker, and very undervalued. Its these kinds of decisions that make me question Tommy's overall approach.

Illuminaire · Post #246 » by **Illuminaire** » Thu Dec 9, 2021 6:23 am

Matthews was getting MVP chants in Houston tonight. They love him there. RIP.

Chocolate City Jordanaire · Post #247 » by **Chocolate City Jordanaire** » Thu Dec 9, 2021 7:43 am

GoneShammGone wrote:
payitforward wrote:...
Doesn't matter -- main point is that it's great to see Mathews doing so well. It's also no big surprise, & it was idiotic to throw away an asset of his value!

Yup, Garrison is exactly the kind of player that you keep: extremely good at an important skill, hard worker, and very undervalued. Its these kinds of decisions that make me question Tommy's overall approach.

The Wizards would be better paying Garrison Mathews his salary to start at shooting guard than they are paying Bradley Beal for what he does at his salary

Post #248 » by **Ruzious** » Thu Dec 9, 2021 1:48 pm

7 wins in a row for the 8-16 Rockets - pretty much started by starting GarMat. Last win against powerhouse Brooklyn. Next game tomorrow against Champion Milwaukee - if they win that, Wiz need to speak up about their foolishness in not even offering him a contract and Boston for letting him go.

Post #249 » by **nate33** » Thu Dec 9, 2021 3:00 pm

Illuminaire wrote:Matthews was getting MVP chants in Houston tonight. They love him there. RIP.

I see from the box score that he had a bad shooting night (5/13, 3/11 from 3), but in typical Garrison Mathews fashion, he made up for it by somehow earning 7 FT's (going 6/7) and picking up 3 steals. I miss that guy.

Dark Faze · Post #250 » by **Dark Faze** » Thu Dec 9, 2021 4:12 pm

Basically punting on a free 1st round pick from LA in order to get a meh PG who stole Garrison's roster spot and is somehow getting 17 minutes a night. Very Ernie like move.

Post #251 » by **nate33** » Thu Dec 9, 2021 4:30 pm

Dark Faze wrote:Basically punting on a free 1st round pick from LA in order to get a meh PG who stole Garrison's roster spot and is somehow getting 17 minutes a night. Very Ernie like move.

Yup.

The real problem was drafting Kispert who was, at best, going to give us what we already had in Mathews. Imagine if we had drafted Sengun! But if not Sengun (who was admittedly redundant position-wise), I'd have been happier with Troy Murphy who at least projects to be a competent defender and prototypical 3&D guy.

The Holiday thing was a bungle for other reasons. The main problem is that it took some of the cap space necessary to pay Dinwiddie, so we instead had to cough up a high 2nd round pick (Detroit's 2022 pick) to dump Hutchison and create the cap room. So basically, the trade was the #22 pick for a 1-year rental of Aaron Holiday. I'd be happier with Jared Butler, ideally after trading down to get him.

smoothSeph · Post #252 » by **smoothSeph** » Thu Dec 9, 2021 6:35 pm

This move never made sense. What's even worse is we planned on keeping Homesley over him, on top of drafting Kispert.

Kanyewest · Post #253 » by **Kanyewest** » Thu Dec 9, 2021 6:43 pm

Most clutch moments from Mathews over the last few days.

Post #254 » by **nate33** » Thu Dec 9, 2021 6:54 pm

Kanyewest wrote:Most clutch moments from Mathews over the last few days.

This is magnificent!

NatP4 · Post #255 » by **NatP4** » Thu Dec 9, 2021 8:15 pm

nate33 wrote:
Dark Faze wrote:Basically punting on a free 1st round pick from LA in order to get a meh PG who stole Garrison's roster spot and is somehow getting 17 minutes a night. Very Ernie like move.

Yup.

The real problem was drafting Kispert who was, at best, going to give us what we already had in Mathews. Imagine if we had drafted Sengun! But if not Sengun (who was admittedly redundant position-wise), I'd have been happier with Troy Murphy who at least projects to be a competent defender and prototypical 3&D guy.

The Holiday thing was a bungle for other reasons. The main problem is that it took some of the cap space necessary to pay Dinwiddie, so we instead had to cough up a high 2nd round pick (Detroit's 2022 pick) to dump Hutchison and create the cap room. So basically, the trade was the #22 pick for a 1-year rental of Aaron Holiday. I'd be happier with Jared Butler, ideally after trading down to get him.

Or keep Mathews and package 22&15 to move up for Franz Wagner.

Or even just pick Kispert AND keep Mathews. Bottom line: Don’t let Mathews walk. Horrible decision.

NatP4 · Post #256 » by **NatP4** » Thu Dec 9, 2021 8:19 pm

16 points per 36 on 67% TS. 2nd on the rockets in on/off.

I’m not sure how much stock you guys buy on the raptor player ratings, but Mathews is literally 5th in the entire NBA just behind Steph Curry and Giannis. (Also #2 is Gary Payton II, another player that we just let go)

Just ridiculously good.

Godymas · Post #257 » by **Godymas** » Thu Dec 9, 2021 8:20 pm

I saw so much potential in him for the Wiz, he was making important buckets as one of the saving graces of the Wiz offense last year.

Shame we couldn't hold him, but glad to see he's balling out

dckingsfan · Post #258 » by **dckingsfan** » Thu Dec 9, 2021 8:29 pm

smoothSeph wrote:This move never made sense. What's even worse is we planned on keeping Homesley over him, on top of drafting Kispert.

I think we can put to rest that letting Mathews go was a bad move (and generally our guard moves to date).

But Tommy has rocked the FC we have some darn good forwards and Cs. If only he had a do-over - keep everything else and fix the backcourt.

payitforward · Post #259 » by **payitforward** » Thu Dec 9, 2021 8:52 pm

nate33 wrote:
Illuminaire wrote:Matthews was getting MVP chants in Houston tonight. They love him there. RIP.

I see from the box score that he had a bad shooting night (5/13, 3/11 from 3), but in typical Garrison Mathews fashion, he made up for it by somehow earning 7 FT's (going 6/7) and picking up 3 steals. I miss that guy.

He didn't have a bad shooting night -- just bad for him. 19 points on 13 shots & 7 FTAs = a .591 TS%. Bradley Beal has had exactly 2 years out of 10 when he's been better than that, & in one of them, the difference was .002.

OTOH, game ball last night would have to go to Josh Christopher, whom Houston took #24 in the draft this year. Guy turned 7 shots into 18 points! Wow!

Post #260 » by **nate33** » Thu Dec 9, 2021 8:53 pm

NatP4 wrote:
nate33 wrote:
Dark Faze wrote:Basically punting on a free 1st round pick from LA in order to get a meh PG who stole Garrison's roster spot and is somehow getting 17 minutes a night. Very Ernie like move.

Yup.

The real problem was drafting Kispert who was, at best, going to give us what we already had in Mathews. Imagine if we had drafted Sengun! But if not Sengun (who was admittedly redundant position-wise), I'd have been happier with Troy Murphy who at least projects to be a competent defender and prototypical 3&D guy.

The Holiday thing was a bungle for other reasons. The main problem is that it took some of the cap space necessary to pay Dinwiddie, so we instead had to cough up a high 2nd round pick (Detroit's 2022 pick) to dump Hutchison and create the cap room. So basically, the trade was the #22 pick for a 1-year rental of Aaron Holiday. I'd be happier with Jared Butler, ideally after trading down to get him.

Or keep Mathews and package 22&15 to move up for Franz Wagner.

Even better!