Bohemian wrote:flintsky21 wrote:They say the draft is a hit and miss, but how can you essentially mess up each and every one of the last 10 picks?
2019:
14th pick - Langford -- It's pretty tragic that we were one pick away from getting Herro but even then, Langford looks to be a rotational role player at best instead of the high ceiling guy Ainge must've thought of. Then the fact that he gets hurt every 5 games or so. SGs available at that time like Nickeil Alexander Walker and Kevin Porter Jr have had more productive careers thus far.
20th pick - Traded to Philly who used it to pick Mathise Thybulle. Thybulle already got an All-Defensive team in his name, so he's already did more than any of the guys Boston picked in this draft.
22nd pick - Grant Williams. While Grant is starting to look OKAY this year, he's still an undersized big with physical limitations and can't be relied to score in double digits 2 games in a row. Jordan Poole and Keldon Johnson were available.
33rd pick - Carsen Edwards. Big LOL.
2020:
14th pick - Nesmith - Picking the "best" shooter in the draft made sense, but the Celtics also needed "shooting with size" at the time and Saddiq Bey would've fit perfectly alongside the Jays. Also: Tyrese Maxey.
26th pick - Pritchard -- while he had a good rookie year, he's getting exposed in his second year with his inability to even get off a decent shot except from 3 feet off the 3 point line. He also doesn't offer anything much in terms of defense and playmaking.
30th pick - traded to Memphis as incentive to take Kanter off our hands - used to draft Desmond Freakin Bane. -- utterly DISASTROUS.
47th pick - Yam Madar - not even good enough to get a 2-way.
2021:
16th pick - Anytime you dangle a 1st round pick to get rid of a player, it's almost always a bad deal. While Horford has looked surprisingly solid, this current team doesn't seem to be any better than when Kemba was here. 2-center lineup not looking too hot either.
45th pick - Juhann Begarin - you essentially picked a French Romeo Langford, because one isn't enough. The basketball gods essentially giftwrapped a guy named Brandon BOSTON to you, and you still managed to miss the cue.
Wow, I just signaled two of the many inaccurate points there. Overreacting much to the losses, I am not sure people even cared about Boston JR before last night, but anyway:
1. Yam Madar is better suited learning to play in Europe (under one of the best coaches in the world) than in the G League. It´s funny how many people still underestimate the level of European leagues. The Euroleague is a huge tournament, and fortunately the NBA has understood that and many scouts look for gems there. So I am sure Yam is learning much more there.
2. I don´t see the comparison Begarin vs Langford unless you are talking about their looks. Their games have nothing to do.
Agreed with everything Bohemian said. I'll also add:
-Pritchard so far has been good value for the 26th pick
-Madar was offered a 2-way but chose to play in Europe instead
-The Celtics did not trade Bane or Thybulle. They simply traded the picks. at the time they traded the picks, there was no telling who would or would not be available. Picks outside of the lottery are often used as throw-ins in a trade - those picks are seen as a commodity, they're swapped around like crazy. Some of those picks might turn into good players, some might not. It's just the way it is - it's not "disastrous" as you say. Stop being so dramatic, lol
-You laugh at Edwards, but the 2nd round of the 2019 draft was really weak. There really weren't many better options at the time. If a 2nd round pick doesn't work out, who cares? It's a low risk, high reward pick. It didn't work out that time but we got solid value for a 2nd round pick with Ojeleye and a lot of people think Begarin could turn out to be really good value in the 2nd round as well - Madar could also turn out to be good value in the 2nd round - far too soon to tell for sure on them
-In general, you really can't tell if a pick was a good pick or a bad pick until after the player has been in the league at least 3 full seasons so your whole post is pretty silly cause it hasn't been 3 full seasons for any of these guys - especially considering that with COVID, many of these players didn't have a real offseason/training camp during their first 1-2 seasons
-Not to mention that 90% of these moves were made by Ainge - he is no longer with the team so pointless to bring them up. It's like if I complained to my wife about a bunch of sh*t my ex-wife did 3 years ago lol
