Deeeez Knicks wrote:K-DOT wrote:snadler wrote:
the 3 picks is the only part I think is too much, are the knicks planning on offering RJ a second contract? maybe, maybe not? Obi a great athlete but his game is limited with his inability to shoot and struggles on defense. I'd like to see if they can give up 1 at most 2 picks, but 3 is a lot
This is the likely lineup that would result from that trade:
Dame/Rose
Quick/McBride
Fournier/Grimes
Randle/Knox
Noel/Mitch (interchangeably)
Now, I like McGrimes and I'd be real happy to see them get minutes, but that's a really weak bench and the starting defense would be rancid. And yeah, we'd be capped out, as Dame/Randle/Fournier would be costing us around 90 mil per year, and that's not a super inspiring big 3. Really the only path to contention there is for Quick to hit his ceiling as a CJ McCollum type within the next year or so, and I don't think that happens
We might be better than the Blazers, but you need to make another move asap.
Yea, the resulting team is the deal breaker for me more so then what we are giving up. That team still needs a lot of work to be a legit contender, with a limited window. Then if Dame starts falling off at 33, 34 it becomes a nightmare scenario.
If he starts falling off at 33, 34 and we've given him the 90 million extension he wants, that's the nightmare scenario, cause we'd be paying him until he's 37
I'm just gonna keep saying, it's ridiculous to want us to rush into a Dame trade without planning ahead, cause if you trade for Dame, you still need help, and you don't have time to wait to get him it. People can say being hesitant is the same mistake we made with Chris Paul, but let's be real, CP3 and Randle isn't winning us a chip, and he is declining. Maybe not as drastic as some people projected, but still. If all we did was trade for CP3, and extended him until 2025, we would not be in a good place
And I don't think marginal moves are gonna cut it. Like, who else would we be able to get? Simmons is probably the best player on the market, but him and Randle are an awkward fit, and if you trade Randle for him, you still run into the problem that Dame/Simmons/Fournier is not good enough. Maybe we could trade for some of the Pacers' guys, like Sabonis might be good enough as a 2nd/3rd option with Randle, or we could go for LeVert/Turner, but we'd have to use up the rest of our assets to do so
Dame/Rose
Lamb (or Holiday)
LeVert
Randle/Knox
Turner/Sims
And like, I like that starting group, I think if Randle plays up to his potential on defense, Dame's the only weak link and LeVert has potential to be a good tertiary ball handler, but there'd be literally no bench. When Knox is your 2nd best bench player, you're in trouble (and he's only still here cause I don't consider him to be an asset), and we'd have no 1sts in the forseeable future to get young, cheap bench guys, we'd be reliant on vet mins and UDFAs.
RANDLE AND EVAN? I stopped reading after that.
