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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#1061 » by ScienceOfLosing » Fri Dec 10, 2021 5:16 pm

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Help society? Playing to the emotions much?

How about offering a dead virus style vaccine, instead of experimental mRNA gene therapy? That at least allows people to not be a part of a medical experiment. The number of people I've both known and seen hurt from the mRNA gene therapy now surpasses those I've known hurt from CV.


Don’t get vaccinated then, but nobody else should care about your unscientific anecdotal evidence especially when the reality is billions of people are vaccinated and fine and over 5 million now dead with covid


They called mRNA gene therapy. This is clown talk. The mRNA technology used in these vaccines does NOT enter the nucleus of our cells and it does NOT alter our DNA. It is called Messenger RNA for a reason. It communicates what proteins to generate then it dissembles itself and leaves your body. Sick of this BS


The gene encodes the spike protein. We are programming the spike protein. Regardless, don't get lost in semantics, it is programming. https://www.microbiologyresearch.org/content/journal/jgv/10.1099/0022-1317-66-4-719
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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#1062 » by robillionaire » Fri Dec 10, 2021 8:19 pm

TrueWarrior wrote:Players left and right getting covid after a 97% jab rate in the NBA. More than last year already. No deaths in the NBA before the jab or after. Covid has a 99.8% survival rate, jabbed or not, so healthy young NBA players gettin “vaxxed” is (Please Use More Appropriate Word). It doesnt stop transmission at all which is why cases are sky high in the NBA and around the world, and more people have died of covid this year than last overall. Keep getting those boosters every 4 months to make Big Pharma richer tho yall for every stupid variant that the jab is creating lol.


It makes big pharma richer when unvaccinated people fill up the hospital ICU and have to take far more expensive and also experimental monoclonal antibodies to survive as well as whatever non-approved treatments they insist on taking and it also makes big hospital ceo and big insurance and big funeral home and big graveyard a lot richer while most vaccinated breakthrough cases don’t get hospitalized or have minor or no symptoms at the cost of a cheap vaccine. Keep not getting vaccinated and rejecting modern medicine and we will put it to the test as a reminder of which leads to the best chance of human survival
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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#1063 » by TrueWarrior » Fri Dec 10, 2021 8:48 pm

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TrueWarrior wrote:Players left and right getting covid after a 97% jab rate in the NBA. More than last year already. No deaths in the NBA before the jab or after. Covid has a 99.8% survival rate, jabbed or not, so healthy young NBA players gettin “vaxxed” is (Please Use More Appropriate Word). It doesnt stop transmission at all which is why cases are sky high in the NBA and around the world, and more people have died of covid this year than last overall. Keep getting those boosters every 4 months to make Big Pharma richer tho yall for every stupid variant that the jab is creating lol.


It makes big pharma richer when unvaccinated people fill up the hospital ICU and have to take far more expensive and also experimental monoclonal antibodies to survive as well as whatever non-approved treatments they insist on taking and it also makes big hospital ceo and big insurance and big funeral home and big graveyard a lot richer while most vaccinated breakthrough cases don’t get hospitalized or have minor or no symptoms at the cost of a cheap vaccine. Keep not getting vaccinated and rejecting modern medicine and we will put it to the test as a reminder of which leads to the best chance of human survival


The American covid survival rate is 99.85% friend. That includes everybody. Takes a second to look it up yourself. Divide the deaths by the cases. If you want to be scared of that then go ahead. Ill go on living my life.

Barely anything has changed since the shots went out. They been lying every step of the way and keep moving the goalposts. Now some people will be going on their 4th shot soon lol. It’s friggin pathetic to me.

If high risk old obese people wanna get the shots then they can do that. Prob benefits them more than not. The rest of us who are young and healthy shouldnt be forced to take some crap that doesnt give immunity and doesnt stop transmission, hospitalization, or death. Not to mention the many thousands of people who have had horrible side effects or even died from the shots. You do you bro. Im good.
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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#1064 » by robillionaire » Fri Dec 10, 2021 8:52 pm

TrueWarrior wrote:
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TrueWarrior wrote:Players left and right getting covid after a 97% jab rate in the NBA. More than last year already. No deaths in the NBA before the jab or after. Covid has a 99.8% survival rate, jabbed or not, so healthy young NBA players gettin “vaxxed” is (Please Use More Appropriate Word). It doesnt stop transmission at all which is why cases are sky high in the NBA and around the world, and more people have died of covid this year than last overall. Keep getting those boosters every 4 months to make Big Pharma richer tho yall for every stupid variant that the jab is creating lol.


It makes big pharma richer when unvaccinated people fill up the hospital ICU and have to take far more expensive and also experimental monoclonal antibodies to survive as well as whatever non-approved treatments they insist on taking and it also makes big hospital ceo and big insurance and big funeral home and big graveyard a lot richer while most vaccinated breakthrough cases don’t get hospitalized or have minor or no symptoms at the cost of a cheap vaccine. Keep not getting vaccinated and rejecting modern medicine and we will put it to the test as a reminder of which leads to the best chance of human survival


The American covid survival rate is 99.8% friend. Takes a second to look it up yourself. Divide the cases by the deaths. If you want to be scared of that then go ahead. Ill go on living my life.

Barely anything has changed since the shots went out. They been lying every step of the way and keep moving the goalposts. Now some people will be going on their 4th shot soon lol. It’s friggin pathetic to me.

If high risk old obese people wanna get the shots then they can do that. Prob benefits them more than not. The rest of us who are young and healthy shouldnt be forced to take some crap that doesnt give immunity and doesnt stop transmission, hospitalization, or death. Not to mention the many thousands of people who have had horrible side effects or even died from the shots. You do you bro. Im good.


good, don’t get it, I legit don’t care, you do you and follow health advice disinformation campaigns on social media and I’ll keep following modern medicine

PS being vaccinated doesn’t mean one is “scared” just like I’m not “scared” of getting polio precisely because I’m vaccinated and don’t need to worry about it. Yet you are scared of harmless vaccinations, one of humanities greatest accomplishments
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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#1065 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Fri Dec 10, 2021 8:52 pm

TrueWarrior wrote:
robillionaire wrote:
TrueWarrior wrote:Players left and right getting covid after a 97% jab rate in the NBA. More than last year already. No deaths in the NBA before the jab or after. Covid has a 99.8% survival rate, jabbed or not, so healthy young NBA players gettin “vaxxed” is (Please Use More Appropriate Word). It doesnt stop transmission at all which is why cases are sky high in the NBA and around the world, and more people have died of covid this year than last overall. Keep getting those boosters every 4 months to make Big Pharma richer tho yall for every stupid variant that the jab is creating lol.


It makes big pharma richer when unvaccinated people fill up the hospital ICU and have to take far more expensive and also experimental monoclonal antibodies to survive as well as whatever non-approved treatments they insist on taking and it also makes big hospital ceo and big insurance and big funeral home and big graveyard a lot richer while most vaccinated breakthrough cases don’t get hospitalized or have minor or no symptoms at the cost of a cheap vaccine. Keep not getting vaccinated and rejecting modern medicine and we will put it to the test as a reminder of which leads to the best chance of human survival


The American covid survival rate is 99.85% friend. That includes everybody. Takes a second to look it up yourself. Divide the cases by the deaths. If you want to be scared of that then go ahead. Ill go on living my life.



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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#1066 » by thebuzzardman » Fri Dec 10, 2021 9:37 pm

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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#1067 » by thebuzzardman » Fri Dec 10, 2021 9:39 pm

So much waste after 9/11. 3,000 deaths. That's like a US 99.9999985 survival rate.
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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#1068 » by Clyde_Style » Fri Dec 10, 2021 10:21 pm

780,000 dead Americans

But they were fat so whatever

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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#1069 » by robillionaire » Fri Dec 10, 2021 10:33 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:So much waste after 9/11. 3,000 deaths. That's like a US 99.9999985 survival rate.
Should have written Bin Laden a summons.


It’s an interesting comparison because while it can be edgy to make jokes about 9/11 or bring up whatever alternative explanation for it I would really not do that on New York forums because you just don’t know how many lost a friend or co worker or family member etc in 9/11 and you just want to be a decent person with respect

Meanwhile how many New Yorkers died of COVID especially in spring 2020 looks like 10x that amount of 9/11 my wife and I at the time both worked in health care me at Lenox Hill and her in Harlem and in a Covid tent and we had co-workers die and saw trucks of dead bodies and we have these smug mf’ers on here who want to peddle their bs. Personally I’m of the opinion that if you don’t want to take a vaccine or mask or whatever don’t do it but I’m tired of these folks acting like they’re so smart and woke and we vaccinated are just a bunch of sheep or whatever seriously cram your unsolicited and uneducated opinion about vaccines that you got from Joe rogan and Alex Jones or “Americas frontline doctors” directly up your ass and let us go with what the CDC recommends in peace
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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#1070 » by thebuzzardman » Fri Dec 10, 2021 11:16 pm

robillionaire wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:So much waste after 9/11. 3,000 deaths. That's like a US 99.9999985 survival rate.
Should have written Bin Laden a summons.


It’s an interesting comparison because while it can be edgy to make jokes about 9/11 or bring up whatever alternative explanation for it I would really not do that on New York forums because you just don’t know how many lost a friend or co worker or family member etc in 9/11 and you just want to be a decent person with respect

Meanwhile how many New Yorkers died of COVID especially in spring 2020 looks like 10x that amount of 9/11 my wife and I at the time both worked in health care me at Lenox Hill and her in Harlem and in a Covid tent and we had co-workers die and saw trucks of dead bodies and we have these smug mf’ers on here who want to peddle their bs. Personally I’m of the opinion that if you don’t want to take a vaccine or mask or whatever don’t do it but I’m tired of these folks acting like they’re so smart and woke and we vaccinated are just a bunch of sheep or whatever seriously cram your unsolicited and uneducated opinion about vaccines that you got from Joe rogan and Alex Jones or “Americas frontline doctors” directly up your ass and let us go with what the CDC recommends in peace


Lenox Hill. My friend works out of there as a Paramedic.

I lost friends and neighbors on 9/11.
The "joke" is inverting the meaning we put on those deaths, but the covid ones aren't statistically important enough to some.
I know you know that.
Maybe it helps that the sarcasm cuts deeper FOR me, as well as delivering it, knowing people who died on 9/11, who died from Covid and friends and family who were and are front line workers for both events.
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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#1071 » by Clyde_Style » Fri Dec 10, 2021 11:42 pm

I’m using the ignore button more often as my RealGM vaccine to inoculate myself from stupidity

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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#1072 » by ScienceOfLosing » Sat Dec 11, 2021 12:28 pm

Harvard Study - Increases in COVID-19 are unrelated to levels of vaccination across 68 countries and 2947 counties in the United States

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Notably, Israel with over 60% of their population fully vaccinated had the highest COVID-19 cases per 1 million people in the last 7 days. The lack of a meaningful association between percentage population fully vaccinated and new COVID-19 cases is further exemplified, for instance, by comparison of Iceland and Portugal. Both countries have over 75% of their population fully vaccinated and have more COVID-19 cases per 1 million people than countries such as Vietnam and South Africa that have around 10% of their population fully vaccinated.

Of the top 5 counties that have the highest percentage of population fully vaccinated (99.9–84.3%), the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) identifies 4 of them as "High" Transmission counties. Chattahoochee (Georgia), McKinley (New Mexico), and Arecibo (Puerto Rico) counties have above 90% of their population fully vaccinated with all three being classified as "High" transmission. Conversely, of the 57 counties that have been classified as "low" transmission counties by the CDC, 26.3% (15) have percentage of population fully vaccinated below 20%.


https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10654-021-00808-7
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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#1073 » by Clyde_Style » Sat Dec 11, 2021 1:55 pm

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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#1074 » by DOT » Sat Dec 11, 2021 5:11 pm

ScienceOfLosing wrote:Harvard Study - Increases in COVID-19 are unrelated to levels of vaccination across 68 countries and 2947 counties in the United States

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Notably, Israel with over 60% of their population fully vaccinated had the highest COVID-19 cases per 1 million people in the last 7 days. The lack of a meaningful association between percentage population fully vaccinated and new COVID-19 cases is further exemplified, for instance, by comparison of Iceland and Portugal. Both countries have over 75% of their population fully vaccinated and have more COVID-19 cases per 1 million people than countries such as Vietnam and South Africa that have around 10% of their population fully vaccinated.

Of the top 5 counties that have the highest percentage of population fully vaccinated (99.9–84.3%), the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) identifies 4 of them as "High" Transmission counties. Chattahoochee (Georgia), McKinley (New Mexico), and Arecibo (Puerto Rico) counties have above 90% of their population fully vaccinated with all three being classified as "High" transmission. Conversely, of the 57 counties that have been classified as "low" transmission counties by the CDC, 26.3% (15) have percentage of population fully vaccinated below 20%.


https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10654-021-00808-7

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2021/10/subramanian-harvard-covid-vaccines/

Alas, there’s just one problem for Horowitz and company: S.V. Subramanian, the Harvard professor of population health and geography behind the paper, says the vaccine doubters are completely wrong.

“That conclusion is misleading and inaccurate,” Subramanian told me of Horowitz’s Blaze column over email. “This paper supports vaccination as an important strategy for reducing infection and transmission, along with hand-washing, mask-wearing, and physical distancing.”
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But instead of concluding that such data means vaccines are useless, Subramanian says his findings suggest that it’s unwise to ignore other treatments and precautionary steps—say, masks or lockdowns. In other words, he writes, the “sole reliance on vaccination as a primary strategy to mitigate COVID-19 and its adverse consequences needs to be re-examined… other pharmacological and non-pharmacological interventions may need to be put in place alongside increasing vaccination.”
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Over email, Subramanian insisted that the positive effects of vaccines are not in doubt: “Other research has clearly and definitively established that the vaccines significantly reduce the risk of hospitalization and mortality.”


So that took me like, 5 seconds of googling to find. The guy who wrote the paper says using it as an anti-vax argument is stupid

Y'all really need to read the things you cite. And like, I didn't even need to find that, cause in the article you linked to, it says
The sole reliance on vaccination as a primary strategy to mitigate COVID-19 and its adverse consequences needs to be re-examined, especially considering the Delta (B.1.617.2) variant and the likelihood of future variants. Other pharmacological and non-pharmacological interventions may need to be put in place alongside increasing vaccination rates.


Literally says "we need to increase vaccination rates" in the piece you're using to say vaccines don't work. :rofl:
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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#1075 » by Clyde_Style » Mon Dec 13, 2021 12:12 am

Only sane host on Fox News was Chris Wallace. Seems he’s had enough.
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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#1076 » by HarthorneWingo » Mon Dec 13, 2021 10:19 am

Clyde_Style wrote:Only sane host on Fox News was Chris Wallace. Seems he’s had enough.


Brett Baier is still there to do the nightly news, whoever is left watching that. It's always been the GOP propaganda machine. Just gotta boycott their sponsors.
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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#1077 » by HarthorneWingo » Wed Dec 15, 2021 3:17 am

Donald Bender, an accountant from Mazars, is giving testimony to Manhattan DA’s Office against Trump. This is big.

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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#1078 » by Clyde_Style » Wed Dec 15, 2021 4:27 am

HarthorneWingo wrote:Donald Bender, an accountant from Mazars, is giving testimony to Manhattan DA’s Office against Trump. This is big.

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https://www.propublica.org/article/meet-the-shadowy-accountants-who-do-trumps-taxes-and-help-him-seem-richer-than-he-is/amp


Mazars was ready to hand over anything and everything to Congress a long time ago whenever the courts gave them the green light. They’re not interested in protecting Trump or his tax returns
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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#1079 » by seren » Wed Dec 15, 2021 4:42 am

TrueWarrior wrote:Players left and right getting covid after a 97% jab rate in the NBA. More than last year already. No deaths in the NBA before the jab or after. Covid has a 99.8% survival rate, jabbed or not, so healthy young NBA players gettin “vaxxed” is (Please Use More Appropriate Word). It doesnt stop transmission at all which is why cases are sky high in the NBA and around the world, and more people have died of covid this year than last overall. Keep getting those boosters every 4 months to make Big Pharma richer tho yall for every stupid variant that the jab is creating lol.



Everyone likes to come up with their own numbers it seems. Official case number is at 50 million and 800K died from Covid so far. That is 1.5 percent mortality rate. Not close to 99.8 percent survival rate at all. Add the impact of long covid. Young people having to quit sports altogether because of long covid.

Big pharma richer is a totally different conversation. It is entirely government decision to make them richer. At any point, the government can take over the production and give them nothing. And they should absolutely do that. If we will ever get out of this thing, we need poor countries to be jabbed too. The virus doesn’t respect the borders.
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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#1080 » by HarthorneWingo » Wed Dec 15, 2021 5:17 am

seren wrote:
TrueWarrior wrote:Players left and right getting covid after a 97% jab rate in the NBA. More than last year already. No deaths in the NBA before the jab or after. Covid has a 99.8% survival rate, jabbed or not, so healthy young NBA players gettin “vaxxed” is (Please Use More Appropriate Word). It doesnt stop transmission at all which is why cases are sky high in the NBA and around the world, and more people have died of covid this year than last overall. Keep getting those boosters every 4 months to make Big Pharma richer tho yall for every stupid variant that the jab is creating lol.



Everyone likes to come up with their own numbers it seems. Official case number is at 50 million and 800K died from Covid so far. That is 1.5 percent mortality rate. Not close to 99.8 percent survival rate at all. Add the impact of long covid. Young people having to quit sports altogether because of long covid.

Big pharma richer is a totally different conversation. It is entirely government decision to make them richer. At any point, the government can take over the production and give them nothing. And they should absolutely do that. If we will ever get out of this thing, we need poor countries to be jabbed too. The virus doesn’t respect the borders.


Long COVID is a thing. I listened to a report on NPR today on it. They're even beginning to think that it can cause long term brain injuries. It's still early in the research. They've tested on monkey's brains but enough on human brains yet to draw any firm conclusions.

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