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Re: Miami Heat Regular Season Thread 21-22 Vol. 1 

Post#921 » by marson » Sat Dec 11, 2021 1:56 am

twix2500 wrote:Yall act like Duncan making 30 mill a year. He is not even making 20 mill per.

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Still not worth though. Take Christian Wood as an example who is at 14 mil a year and 3x a better player than Duncan Robinson is. That's why signing a one trick pony and can't do other things especially on Defense would hurt our team long term.
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Post#922 » by harlem_ball » Sat Dec 11, 2021 1:56 am

twix2500 wrote:Yall act like Duncan making 30 mill a year. He is not even making 20 mill per.

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Post#923 » by carnageta » Sat Dec 11, 2021 2:53 am

marson wrote:
twix2500 wrote:Yall act like Duncan making 30 mill a year. He is not even making 20 mill per.

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Still not worth though. Take Christian Wood as an example who is at 14 mil a year and 3x a better player than Duncan Robinson is. That's why signing a one trick pony and can't do other things especially on Defense would hurt our team long term.


Christian Wood plays on the worst team in the league and has no pressure on him whatsoever to perform. Horrible comparison. Kelly Olynyk went into that environment after the trade last year and absolutely dominated too. Remember how 'good' he was when playing on a team that wasn't pushing for a top 5 worst record?
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Post#924 » by Flash4thewin » Sat Dec 11, 2021 4:23 am

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marson wrote:
twix2500 wrote:Yall act like Duncan making 30 mill a year. He is not even making 20 mill per.

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Still not worth though. Take Christian Wood as an example who is at 14 mil a year and 3x a better player than Duncan Robinson is. That's why signing a one trick pony and can't do other things especially on Defense would hurt our team long term.


Christian Wood plays on the worst team in the league and has no pressure on him whatsoever to perform. Horrible comparison. Kelly Olynyk went into that environment after the trade last year and absolutely dominated too. Remember how 'good' he was when playing on a team that wasn't pushing for a top 5 worst record?


Remember the Rockets won as many playoff games as we did last year :banghead:
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Post#925 » by HeatFanLifer » Sat Dec 11, 2021 7:05 am

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He’s at 23 MPG this month, slowly being taken out of the rotation


Those minutes are pathetic after he signed this new contract. So many NBA players just drop off in quality after signing their payday guaranteed contract. Some of these deals destroy franchises for years (Gilbert Arenas) and cost tens or even hundreds of millions in revenue for the team, league, and salary cap to pay players more.

It’s one thing if a player is hurt, but there is no reason for a player on the deal DROB just signed to be playing anything less than 30 MPG.


We are not in a position to be handing out minutes based on contract. With Bam & Jimmy out Spo is gotta ride whoever is hot. Lowry atm is the only player guaranteed minutes. The margin of error is too low to waste minutes on a player who isn't producing.


Yup, salary does not equal minutes. This is on DROB to produce.
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Post#926 » by RexBoyWonder » Sat Dec 11, 2021 9:34 am

Lowry/Vincent/Dipo
Robinson/Herro/Strus
Butler/Martin
Tucker/Morris/KZ
Bam/Deadmon/Omer


It's obvious we're crowded at guard and thin with the bigs.

I think a Duncan trade in on the horizon, we seem to have enough of a replacement on the roster already, and we have a bigger need elsewhere.

It's not an urgent matter, but I think it makes sense to try to use Duncan's contract (and maybe attach a sweetner) and try to get one of these bigs :

1) Myles Turner
2) Chritian Wood
3) Thaddeus Young
4) Marvin Bagley
5) Jonas Valančiūnas
6) Harrison Barnes
7) Mo Bamba
8) Wendell Carter Jr
9) Jerami Grant


Basically we need to give Duncan's minutes to Strus/Herro/Martin/Dipo, and then give the new big some of Morris/KZ/Dedmon/Omer minutes.

Not having a first round pick to send out will really hurt our chances to get some f theses better names.
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Post#927 » by Bishop45 » Sat Dec 11, 2021 11:14 am

Probably need another competent ballhandler/scorer more than we need a big
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Post#928 » by RexBoyWonder » Sat Dec 11, 2021 11:16 am

Bishop45 wrote:Probably need another competent ballhandler/scorer more than we need a big

agreed, but that ship is in Dipos hands
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Post#929 » by Bishop45 » Sat Dec 11, 2021 11:28 am

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Bishop45 wrote:Probably need another competent ballhandler/scorer more than we need a big

agreed, but that ship is in Dipos hands


Then that ship's in serious danger,

Dipo hasn't been healthy or good in quite some time
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Post#930 » by puppa bear » Sat Dec 11, 2021 11:41 am

RexBoyWonder wrote:Lowry/Vincent/Dipo
Robinson/Herro/Strus
Butler/Martin
Tucker/Morris/KZ
Bam/Deadmon/Omer


It's obvious we're crowded at guard and thin with the bigs.

I think a Duncan trade in on the horizon, we seem to have enough of a replacement on the roster already, and we have a bigger need elsewhere.

It's not an urgent matter, but I think it makes sense to try to use Duncan's contract (and maybe attach a sweetner) and try to get one of these bigs :

1) Myles Turner
2) Chritian Wood
3) Thaddeus Young
4) Marvin Bagley
5) Jonas Valančiūnas
6) Harrison Barnes
7) Mo Bamba
8) Wendell Carter Jr
9) Jerami Grant


Basically we need to give Duncan's minutes to Strus/Herro/Martin/Dipo, and then give the new big some of Morris/KZ/Dedmon/Omer minutes.

Not having a first round pick to send out will really hurt our chances to get some f theses better names.

I like most of that list, & Turner would be my #1.

Grant would definitely need Herro as well to happen, not sure it’s worth it then

I’m sure OKC would be happy to unprotected the pick for a second- if we have any left
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Post#931 » by wadenation305 » Sat Dec 11, 2021 3:24 pm

I would love Turner next to Bam and acquiring him without giving up Herro Bam Jimmy or Kyle would make us instant favorites. But a more realistic get would be Christian wood. The pacers are not going to want to give us Turner. Wood is at least out in the west
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Post#932 » by twix2500 » Sat Dec 11, 2021 4:54 pm

marson wrote:
twix2500 wrote:Yall act like Duncan making 30 mill a year. He is not even making 20 mill per.

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Still not worth though. Take Christian Wood as an example who is at 14 mil a year and 3x a better player than Duncan Robinson is. That's why signing a one trick pony and can't do other things especially on Defense would hurt our team long term.


Christian Wood is playing below market value. To abandon a player because he struggle for a month and that player was a HUGE reason for the team success the past two years is very strange. Plus to make hyperbolic suggestion that a 15 mill dollar on the year is suppose to be playing star mins is strange as hell, This is not 2008. Long contracts doesnt suggest the role a player should play, its the yearly salary that does.
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Post#933 » by harlem_ball » Sat Dec 11, 2021 5:07 pm

You're all wrong trade DRob and Bam for Turner and Sabonis!!!!

Pacers will go for Bam even if in the same conference.

Turner
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Herro
Lowry



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Post#934 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sat Dec 11, 2021 9:01 pm

twix2500 wrote:
marson wrote:
twix2500 wrote:Yall act like Duncan making 30 mill a year. He is not even making 20 mill per.

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Still not worth though. Take Christian Wood as an example who is at 14 mil a year and 3x a better player than Duncan Robinson is. That's why signing a one trick pony and can't do other things especially on Defense would hurt our team long term.


Christian Wood is playing below market value. To abandon a player because he struggle for a month and that player was a HUGE reason for the team success the past two years is very strange. Plus to make hyperbolic suggestion that a 15 mill dollar on the year is suppose to be playing star mins is strange as hell, This is not 2008. Long contracts doesnt suggest the role a player should play, its the yearly salary that does.


Strus is shooting better than Duncan and is better at literally everything else, hence why Spo let him close over Duncan the other night. We don’t have to make a trade but if we do Duncan is our most expendable piece and makes the most sense to include in a trade due to the money.
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Post#935 » by wadenation305 » Sat Dec 11, 2021 9:45 pm

At this point Keif will most likely miss half the season because of that attack on him by Jokic. At this point if I was the heat I'd be looking to see if they can sue jokic.

Ps I hope we get the nuggets in the playoff. I'd send someone to dive right across both of jokic's knees the very first play of the game.
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Post#936 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sat Dec 11, 2021 9:53 pm

wadenation305 wrote:At this point Keif will most likely miss half the season because of that attack on him by Jokic. At this point if I was the heat I'd be looking to see if they can sue jokic.

Ps I hope we get the nuggets in the playoff. I'd send someone to dive right across both of jokic's knees the very first play of the game.


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Post#937 » by twix2500 » Sat Dec 11, 2021 10:29 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
twix2500 wrote:
marson wrote:
Still not worth though. Take Christian Wood as an example who is at 14 mil a year and 3x a better player than Duncan Robinson is. That's why signing a one trick pony and can't do other things especially on Defense would hurt our team long term.


Christian Wood is playing below market value. To abandon a player because he struggle for a month and that player was a HUGE reason for the team success the past two years is very strange. Plus to make hyperbolic suggestion that a 15 mill dollar on the year is suppose to be playing star mins is strange as hell, This is not 2008. Long contracts doesnt suggest the role a player should play, its the yearly salary that does.


Strus is shooting better than Duncan and is better at literally everything else, hence why Spo let him close over Duncan the other night. We don’t have to make a trade but if we do Duncan is our most expendable piece and makes the most sense to include in a trade due to the money.
This team/players will be graded by the playoffs not November.

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Post#938 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sat Dec 11, 2021 11:24 pm

twix2500 wrote:
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twix2500 wrote:
Christian Wood is playing below market value. To abandon a player because he struggle for a month and that player was a HUGE reason for the team success the past two years is very strange. Plus to make hyperbolic suggestion that a 15 mill dollar on the year is suppose to be playing star mins is strange as hell, This is not 2008. Long contracts doesnt suggest the role a player should play, its the yearly salary that does.


Strus is shooting better than Duncan and is better at literally everything else, hence why Spo let him close over Duncan the other night. We don’t have to make a trade but if we do Duncan is our most expendable piece and makes the most sense to include in a trade due to the money.
This team/players will be graded by the playoffs not November.

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Post#939 » by twix2500 » Sun Dec 12, 2021 11:02 am

Season start my goal for Robinson was to average 15 pts. He is at 11.3, plenty of time to get to 15 by season end. With the injuries the opportunity to make up for his slow start is there.

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Post#940 » by twix2500 » Sun Dec 12, 2021 1:52 pm

The past 5 games Duncan Robinson is averaging

15.4 pts, 48% 3pt%, 6.6 3paImage

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