Tank World Order (6.0)

TrustFundBaby · Post #601 » by **TrustFundBaby** » Sat Dec 11, 2021 2:47 pm

LoveMyRaps wrote:Tbh, I'm not that high on this draft. Maybe its just me but in terms of talent I find it to be closer to the 2020 NBA draft than the 2021 draft.

That's pretty much the consensus, yeah. I'd be completely OK with a pick in the late lotto and take a guy like Mathurin.

It doesn't have that feel like last year/2023where we NEED to be top 4.

Bruin · Post #602 » by **Bruin** » Sat Dec 11, 2021 2:47 pm

Appostis wrote:
Johnny Bball wrote:There's a running theme here where some people think they are full of patience when the reality is they just have a really **** risk tolerance.

Those certainly are words .. sentences even.

I thought I was the only one who couldn’t understand what point he was tryna make :lol:

Bruin · Post #603 » by **Bruin** » Sat Dec 11, 2021 2:48 pm

Read on Twitter

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Read on Twitter

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will · Post #604 » by **will** » Sat Dec 11, 2021 2:53 pm

Scottie & Chet.

aligator · Post #605 » by **aligator** » Sat Dec 11, 2021 3:56 pm

Appostis wrote:
PrinceAli wrote:Patrick Baldwin really screwed himself by going to play for his dad at such a small school

He’ll still go top 10 but being on such a bad team (2-7 now) isn’t helping him at all.

Would the Raptors go with another SF/PF?

I'd be ok with Baldwin.

aligator · Post #606 » by **aligator** » Sat Dec 11, 2021 3:58 pm

LoveMyRaps wrote:Tbh, I'm not that high on this draft. Maybe its just me but in terms of talent I find it to be closer to the 2020 NBA draft than the 2021 draft.

This draft is weaker at the top but has strong depth. There will be useful players available in round 2.

NotMyKawhi · Post #607 » by **NotMyKawhi** » Sat Dec 11, 2021 5:32 pm

PrinceAli wrote:

Read on Twitter
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I was always low on him as well.

That tourny w Edey, chet and Victor? He was on USA, did nothing. Went to a small school, is like 2-6 at a small school. Had a good game against an 0-7 team and they got a win. That's what he's done.

And his dad is the coach...you don't think he's putting him in all the situations to succeed? No excuses for him. bust! Maybe a stretch 4 off the bench if he gains weight

720 · Post #608 » by **720** » Sat Dec 11, 2021 5:43 pm

NotMyKawhi wrote:
PrinceAli wrote:

Read on Twitter
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I was always low on him as well.

That tourny w Edey, chet and Victor? He was on USA, did nothing. Went to a small school, is like 2-6 at a small school. Had a good game against an 0-7 team and they got a win. That's what he's done.

And his dad is the coach...you don't think he's putting him in all the situations to succeed? No excuses for him. bust! Maybe a stretch 4 off the bench if he gains weight

He missed 4 of those games with an ankle injury I believe. They would have a couple more wins had he played probably.

ItsDanger · Post #609 » by **ItsDanger** » Sat Dec 11, 2021 6:13 pm

Baldwin is not an ISO player, downside of being on bad team that plays a better team with size

720 · Post #610 » by **720** » Sat Dec 11, 2021 6:15 pm

Baldwin's ability to shoot, size and dribbling are still interesting. He can do lots of things on offense. Here are some passes. (Imagine Barnes or OG getting these passes instead of these scrubs).

Found some highlights on twitter, clipped them and posting here.

720 · Post #611 » by **720** » Sat Dec 11, 2021 6:20 pm

Mismatch situations he absolutely can kill in the league.

I've posted some half court iso stuff from him in the past, need to find them. Obviously his efficiency numbers have been down so I'm sure his iso numbers are dreadful. But he has all the tools to get it done. It could be something as simple as him not being able to shoulder the weight of such a trash team and so isn't all in on the games.

Indeed · Post #612 » by **Indeed** » Sat Dec 11, 2021 6:53 pm

720 wrote:
PrinceAli wrote:Here’s another guy who might be interesting. He’s playing in NBL right now.

6’9” SG/SF from France with a 7’ wingspan. Some websites list him as a PG/SG so I’m not really quite sure what position he’ll play in the NBA, but he seems intriguing. Definitely fits the mold of players we like in terms of the insane positional length

Watch on YouTube

His draft range varies widely depending on who does the mock. The NBL season just started so we’ll see how he’s viewed as the season progresses.

SG
Still raw on both end. I guess I need to watch the full game to see his mistakes, but from highlights, he seems he can project to create off the dribble with a quick release, and defend both guard positions.

Watch on YouTube

ItsDanger · Post #613 » by **ItsDanger** » Sat Dec 11, 2021 7:05 pm

Watch on YouTube

Not much talk about Besson, looks impressive. 20 yr old withdrew from last draft due to injury.

NotMyKawhi · Post #614 » by **NotMyKawhi** » Sat Dec 11, 2021 7:28 pm

Guys I like- Mathurin, Keegan Murray, Kendall brown, Chandler, Johny davis

Guys I'd stay away from- Baldwin, Dieng, Nzosa, AJ Griffin, Peyton Watson

Bruin · Post #615 » by **Bruin** » Sat Dec 11, 2021 7:32 pm

Diengs season just started, so I’ll wait to make a proper judgement. But he does appear to have an intriguing skillset for his size and length

im sure we’ll be scouting him well since we were reportedly scouting both LaMelo and Giddey. I’m assuming that means we keep a good eye on the NBL and both Giddey and LaMelo have been hits. So if Masai were to end up drafting Dieng, I’d feel confident that he’ll be good.

Long way to go though. Need to see some more footage

Steven1562 · Post #616 » by **Steven1562** » Sat Dec 11, 2021 7:37 pm

https://www.sbnation.com/nba/2021/12/2/22810350/nba-draft-2023-mock-scoot-henderson-victor-wembanyama-emoni-bates

We should be targeting the 2023 draft. Wembanyama and Scoot look special. :nod:

NotMyKawhi · Post #617 » by **NotMyKawhi** » Sat Dec 11, 2021 7:38 pm

PrinceAli wrote:Diengs season just started, so I’ll wait to make a proper judgement. But he does appear to have an intriguing skillset for his size and length

im sure we’ll be scouting him well since we were reportedly scouting both LaMelo and Giddey. I’m assuming that means we keep a good eye on the NBL and both Giddey and LaMelo have been hits. So if Masai were to end up drafting Dieng, I’d feel confident that he’ll be good.

Long way to go though. Need to see some more footage

His shot looks okay but the drive was slow. no ups. skinny.

Remember Lamelo and Giddey dominated the NBL. not 8 points. we will see tho

Bruin · Post #618 » by **Bruin** » Sat Dec 11, 2021 7:44 pm

NotMyKawhi wrote:
PrinceAli wrote:Diengs season just started, so I’ll wait to make a proper judgement. But he does appear to have an intriguing skillset for his size and length

im sure we’ll be scouting him well since we were reportedly scouting both LaMelo and Giddey. I’m assuming that means we keep a good eye on the NBL and both Giddey and LaMelo have been hits. So if Masai were to end up drafting Dieng, I’d feel confident that he’ll be good.

Long way to go though. Need to see some more footage

His shot looks okay but the drive was slow. no ups. skinny.

Remember Lamelo and Giddey dominated the NBL. not 8 points. we will see tho

Well yea if he continues to put up 8 ppg in the NBL, it won’t be encouraging.

Giddey also had similar weaknesses and he’s turned out alright. He averaged around 11-7-7 in the NBL

I’d like to see Dieng be around 12-6-4 throughout the year and I’d feel good about him. Right now he’s at 5.5-3-1.5 with poor efficiency through just two games. Gonna need to see more

NotMyKawhi · Post #619 » by **NotMyKawhi** » Sat Dec 11, 2021 7:44 pm

Steven1562 wrote:https://www.sbnation.com/nba/2021/12/2/22810350/nba-draft-2023-mock-scoot-henderson-victor-wembanyama-emoni-bates

We should be targeting the 2023 draft. Wembanyama and Scoot look special.

The Canadian is nice too. Bigger wing, like Kobe, Vince, MJ, Tmac size.

aligator · Post #620 » by **aligator** » Sat Dec 11, 2021 8:33 pm

We should want no part of a lottery pick in 2023.

At 9-12 where do you stand?