Game 26 : Denver Nuggets @ San Antonio Spurs

blahblah312 · Post #1 » by **blahblah312** » Sat Dec 11, 2021 8:26 pm

Will tonight be a repeat of the Grizzles back to back or will the day of rest help in win.

Malone said he is not sure what needs to be done to be more consistent. If he doesn't know, it does not bode well for the season. Something needs to be tried to help the bench till Murray get healthy.

I would like to see Campazzo on starter since you have enough shooters and when he drives to basket will pass off if any defenders are close. Morris will drive and shot and would add offense from the bench.

ducler · Post #2 » by **ducler** » Sat Dec 11, 2021 10:31 pm

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Post #3 » by **THE J0KER** » Sun Dec 12, 2021 3:07 am

Jokic on MVP level, good defense, great 3pt-shooting, two bench players as X-Factor... and Denver leads +30 in the middle of the 3rd quarter vs the same team we lost just two days ago in the same arena!

Richard Miller · Post #4 » by **Richard Miller** » Sun Dec 12, 2021 3:27 pm

THE J0KER wrote:Jokic on MVP level, good defense, great 3pt-shooting, two bench players as X-Factor... and Denver leads +30 in the middle of the 3rd quarter vs the same team we lost just two days ago in the same arena!

The first game in weeks that they didn't have to travel first, might have something to do with it

skywalker33 · Post #5 » by **skywalker33** » Sun Dec 12, 2021 3:58 pm

Well, our bench must've gotten a good night's sleep, they finally scored more than 10pts.

Richard Miller · Post #6 » by **Richard Miller** » Sun Dec 12, 2021 4:22 pm

skywalker33 wrote:Well, our bench must've gotten a good night's sleep, they finally scored more than 10pts.

Tbh, Bones and Howard scored like 80% of all bench points, the rest of bench was not over those 10 pts. Guess they finally remembered to put an actual shooter(s) in there, instead of the usual Campazzo kicking out to guys who can't hit an ocean from the beach

skywalker33 · Post #7 » by **skywalker33** » Sun Dec 12, 2021 5:33 pm

Don't really care WHERE the scoring comes from, just that it's there to support Jokic and the starters.

GeorgeSears · Post #8 » by **GeorgeSears** » Sun Dec 12, 2021 8:29 pm

Nuggets are 9-3 when bench scores 30 or more points, and 4-10 when they score under 30 according to Ryan Blackburn. Which isn't a huge surprise. The starters can only do so much.

blahblah312 · Post #9 » by **blahblah312** » Sun Dec 12, 2021 9:18 pm

With such a large lead Malone missed an opportunity to test some of the bench.
Cancar and Petr have played well in G L when given playing time.
Could have played Bol and hope for a good game to increase interest in trade since he is obviously not coming back.

Having a sub 6ft SG is just futility for the long term.

Richard Miller · Post #10 » by **Richard Miller** » Sun Dec 12, 2021 9:21 pm

blahblah312 wrote:Could have played Bol and hope for a good game to increase interest in trade since he is obviously not coming back.

Having a sub 6ft SG is just futility for the long term.

Long term they are not going anywhere without Murray and/or Porter. If Howard can help them survive until that time comes, then he's done more than enough. If those two are not coming this season, then it doesn't really matter.

Post #11 » by **The Rebel** » Mon Dec 13, 2021 3:36 am

4 of our top 8 have been out with injuries for a lot of games. Most teams are not going to do well playing the 9th-12th man every night. We have been lucky with what we have got out of Nnaji, Bones, and last night HOward. If we were fully healthy Bones and NNaji both would be fighting for 9th and 10th man minutes respectfully.

HOward is our 4th or 5th string PG, behind Murray, Morris, Campazzo, and arguably Bones as well. There have been plenty of 5'10 pgs that are successful rotation players, including Chris Paul. His size is not the issue, his talent is the issue. He is not a backup PG, maybe he will develop into one, but he is not currently good enough to be the primary backup on most teams around the league.

Cancar and Petr have both played well for their roster positions, but they are way down the depth chart. Neither are ready to be rotation guys in the NBA right now and they may never be. With time in the G league maybe they will improve but I am not worried about them not getting minutes.

Bol hasn't got any minutes since he obviously quit on that play against Miami when he was a negative 8 in about 90 seconds. No team in the league is going to be tricked with 2 or 3 minutes of game film, especially if he goes out their with his attitude. We are better off letting another executive to convince himself that Bol is worth the risk of a 2nd round pick or whatever we end up getting.

Going into the season it was obvious to me that we needed a scorer off the bench. Bones goes a long way to helping but we do not have any kind of veteran scorer on the bench at all. Jaymicheal, Jeff, Campazzo, Dozier, and Cornelie for that matter are defensive guys. Bones has done great, but we desperatly need a veteran that can score 14-16 ppg nightly off the bench. It seems like most teams have at least 1, without 1 you end up with a bench that is streaky as hell.

Richard Miller · Post #12 » by **Richard Miller** » Mon Dec 13, 2021 10:38 am

The Rebel wrote:HOward is our 4th or 5th string PG, behind Murray, Morris, Campazzo, and arguably Bones as well. There have been plenty of 5'10 pgs that are successful rotation players, including Chris Paul. His size is not the issue, his talent is the issue. He is not a backup PG, maybe he will develop into one, but he is not currently good enough to be the primary backup on most teams around the league.

And that is fine since at this point he's more like small size SG than PG anyway. If he can catch and shoot, and occasional add drive and finish, i.e. replicate to some extent what he did in SA, that could be really valuable.

blahblah312 · Post #13 » by **blahblah312** » Mon Dec 13, 2021 3:24 pm

The Rebel wrote:
HOward is our 4th or 5th string PG, behind Murray, Morris, Campazzo, and arguably Bones as well. There have been plenty of 5'10 pgs that are successful rotation players, including Chris Paul. His size is not the issue, .

Size is an issue when you have him as SG not the PG ( what team needs 5PG) where he is giving 6-8 inches for easy post up. Having 2 small guards on court at the same time is an issue. When other teams go small they are playing mid 6 ft not sub 6ft

Cancar and Petr contracts are coming up better to find out in blowouts than on another team can the contribute. They have played well in GL time to find out can they carry it to nba.

If you can get play from bols in blowout you may get other GM to bite regardless of attitude now since you wont get anything for him after trade deadline. Other teams have trash so it is just swapping garbage. But it is obvious Malone will never start bols

Post #14 » by **The Rebel** » Mon Dec 13, 2021 3:28 pm

Richard Miller wrote:
The Rebel wrote:HOward is our 4th or 5th string PG, behind Murray, Morris, Campazzo, and arguably Bones as well. There have been plenty of 5'10 pgs that are successful rotation players, including Chris Paul. His size is not the issue, his talent is the issue. He is not a backup PG, maybe he will develop into one, but he is not currently good enough to be the primary backup on most teams around the league.

And that is fine since at this point he's more like small size SG than PG anyway. If he can catch and shoot, and occasional add drive and finish, i.e. replicate to some extent what he did in SA, that could be really valuable.

It could be really valuable, his lack of size at SG is going to be a bigger issue on most nights than his production will be a positive.

Richard Miller · Post #15 » by **Richard Miller** » Mon Dec 13, 2021 3:54 pm

The Rebel wrote:
Richard Miller wrote:
The Rebel wrote:HOward is our 4th or 5th string PG, behind Murray, Morris, Campazzo, and arguably Bones as well. There have been plenty of 5'10 pgs that are successful rotation players, including Chris Paul. His size is not the issue, his talent is the issue. He is not a backup PG, maybe he will develop into one, but he is not currently good enough to be the primary backup on most teams around the league.

And that is fine since at this point he's more like small size SG than PG anyway. If he can catch and shoot, and occasional add drive and finish, i.e. replicate to some extent what he did in SA, that could be really valuable.

It could be really valuable, his lack of size at SG is going to be a bigger issue on most nights than his production will be a positive.

Idk, the bench usually had a lot of size and still was one of the worst in the league if not the worst; if he can keep his production at a decent level, they can work with that

Post #16 » by **The Rebel** » Mon Dec 13, 2021 4:02 pm

blahblah312 wrote:
The Rebel wrote:
HOward is our 4th or 5th string PG, behind Murray, Morris, Campazzo, and arguably Bones as well. There have been plenty of 5'10 pgs that are successful rotation players, including Chris Paul. His size is not the issue, .

Size is an issue when you have him as SG not the PG ( what team needs 5PG) where he is giving 6-8 inches for easy post up. Having 2 small guards on court at the same time is an issue. When other teams go small they are playing mid 6 ft not sub 6ft

Our roster construction leaves a lot to be desired. We have 12 guys who are best at 2 positions and 5 to cover the other 3 with injury prone Barton as being 1 of those 5.

Having 5 PGs is a problem, it has been a problem for the last 2 years. Bones appears to be good at SG but he is a little undersized and came into the league as a combo guard, other than that we came into the season with Barton, Dozier, and Rivers as our only true SG/SFs. While a lot of teams seem to be struggling to find true SG and SFs you would think we would have more than 3 on our entire roster of 17 guys.

It is the same thing with Center, where it is obvious that we have 7 guys who are obvious PFs and can play limited minutes at C, but are an issue there due to lack of size/strength. We literally have Jokic and a guy on a 2 way contract as our only 2 true Centers on the rosters.

Reed has played well in limited minutes, so that is a start, but we really need a deal to get some size at SG, SF, and a usable backup Center in meaningful minutes.

Richard Miller · Post #17 » by **Richard Miller** » Mon Dec 13, 2021 7:19 pm

There were already two centers who didn't play any meaningful minutes, so unless some borderline starting center is coming (i.e. someone like Plumlee) I doubt we will be seeing true backup center.