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Re: PG: Windy City Bulls lose 

Post#61 » by dice » Sun Dec 12, 2021 3:54 am

biggestbullsfan wrote:Also, you’ll be fooling yourself if you don’t think the current Covid outbreak is effecting our team mentality. They’re probably worried they’re next.

yes, pro athletes have been notoriously skittish about contracting COVID
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Re: PG: Windy City Bulls lose 

Post#62 » by Jcool0 » Sun Dec 12, 2021 3:54 am

dice wrote:
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dice wrote:huh?

the bulls were 1 point favorites heading into this game. the heat were missing better players


You said they had similar excuses and i am saying COVID is not the same as an injury.

the players on the floor didn't give a rat's ass why their teammates were missing. it's not like anyone died


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Re: PG: Windy City Bulls lose 

Post#63 » by Jvaughn » Sun Dec 12, 2021 3:55 am

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He’s obviously out of ideas and kinda crying for help now… not sure if we have anyone on the coaching staff who can help him get through this slump.


Definitely got the yips. It's all mental, and that's tougher to breakthrough. I had them in college for a long stretch and couldn't break out of it for a month. Eventually, your shot just starts falling or it's a career ender. Don't know which one it's going to be for Vuc.
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Re: PG: Windy City Bulls lose 

Post#64 » by Chi town » Sun Dec 12, 2021 3:56 am

I didn’t like Billy’s scheme tonight. Press Zach in PNR and TO. When Zach played off ball he looked good. Hated the matchups on D too. Brown’s length have Lowry problems but he rarely guarded him. Caruso should have been on Robinson.

Feels like Bilky is still trying to teach an identity more than actual schemes. Wondering when he will go the next step and add some schemes.
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Re: PG: Windy City Bulls lose 

Post#65 » by sco » Sun Dec 12, 2021 3:59 am

OK, on Vuc. Isn't the answer spending time in the gym working on his shot? Do we know he is spending extra time working on it, or just doing what he did? Look MIA was making everything from 3 in the 1st half, and the game was over. That said, hey, we shot 42% on 40 3's! That's a good thing for this team. We kept the TO's to 14, which surprised me. We got to the line more than them too.

I love that Ball took 12 3's! Do that every f'ing game dude.

Zach had a nice game despite getting all of the defensive attention.

Great to have Caruso back, and if he didn't reinjure himself, that is a big win too.

If AKME can at least see how useless Dotson and Marko are during this stretch, that could help us, if they get gone.
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Re: PG: Windy City Bulls lose 

Post#66 » by WindyCityBorn » Sun Dec 12, 2021 3:59 am

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He’s obviously out of ideas and kinda crying for help now… not sure if we have anyone on the coaching staff who can help him get through this slump.


He should see a sports psychologist. How awfulness is just snowballing now.
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Re: PG: Windy City Bulls lose 

Post#67 » by coldfish » Sun Dec 12, 2021 4:02 am

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Nor is Vuc really. Zach is not the problem, but not really the solution either. DDR is an MVP candidate for a reason.


Substitute DeRozan in this mess and you would get the same result. He isn’t carrying this team.

I thought you were playing, but you actually believe what you what wrote? What a joke.

He’s obviously good, but as far as a max guy and all that, he doesn’t elevate the guys around him much the way I think the elite players should. I can see a loss being acceptable to some level, but no way this should be a blowout with true leadership.


Remember the whole Kobe "I'm coming to Chicago" stuff? Well, what precipitated that is LA being really mediocre for several years with Kobe having some of his best years. Obviously Lavine isn't Kobe but its a false narrative that top players can turn crap into a good team. Old Bulls fans like myself saw MJ play 82 games and drop 37 a night for a 40 and 42 team.

The media likes to create these narratives about "winners" and "losers" for the top dog but its bullcrap. They just don't want to run stories about the 5th and 6th guy on a team. You get more clicks when you either build up or tear down the top guy.
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Re: PG: Windy City Bulls lose 

Post#68 » by Jcool0 » Sun Dec 12, 2021 4:02 am

sco wrote:OK, on Vuc. Isn't the answer spending time in the gym working on his shot? Do we know he is spending extra time working on it, or just doing what he did? Look MIA was making everything from 3 in the 1st half, and the game was over. That said, hey, we shot 42% on 40 3's! That's a good thing for this team. We kept the TO's to 14, which surprised me. We got to the line more than them too.

I love that Ball took 12 3's! Do that every f'ing game dude.

Zach had a nice game despite getting all of the defensive attention.

Great to have Caruso back, and if he didn't reinjure himself, that is a big win too.

If AKME can at least see how useless Dotson and Marko are during this stretch, that could help us, if they get gone.


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Re: PG: Windy City Bulls lose 

Post#69 » by coldfish » Sun Dec 12, 2021 4:05 am

FriedRise wrote:
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He’s obviously out of ideas and kinda crying for help now… not sure if we have anyone on the coaching staff who can help him get through this slump.


First off, I do. He is frequently holding the ball too far forward and its causing him to shoot flat. His ball position is all over the place. You can tell if he is going to make it almost right after release. If the ball goes up, its going in. If it goes flat, its going to hit front rim.

Regardless, don't the Bulls have a shooting guy? This crap is really obvious.
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Re: PG: Windy City Bulls lose 

Post#70 » by nitric0 » Sun Dec 12, 2021 4:13 am

My 1-5 prediction is looking good after demar went down.
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Re: PG: Windy City Bulls lose 

Post#71 » by Chicago-Bull-E » Sun Dec 12, 2021 4:22 am

ChiCitySPORTS#1 wrote:Should’ve won this game tbh. Still had Zach, Vuc, Caruso, Ball. This game should’ve been a W.

Bad loss, can’t blame Covid


It’s one thing to lose, but these last 2 games aren’t even competitive. Teams behind the Bulls in the standings are just crushing them, and cruising to easy victories.

If it was a couple possession game late and a tired Bulls team lost, ok, I’d understand it.
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Re: PG: Windy City Bulls lose 

Post#72 » by bearadonisdna » Sun Dec 12, 2021 4:22 am

Vuc 9 games back from Covid . Only 3 have been at home .

Those 3 games at home he has averages 19 and 12 for +9.

For Transparency, 1 game he was +31. That helped his average but at least it’s an elite performance.

Anybody can tell you ,hey man that guy is hurting the team . Hopefully we can weather the storm or if not he had to adjust to not hurt the team .

Can Bradley play pf? He had the single most defensive impact to the eye.
If he helps that much with vuc off can he do it with vuc on ?
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Re: PG: Windy City Bulls lose 

Post#73 » by fleet » Sun Dec 12, 2021 4:26 am

coldfish wrote:
fleet wrote:
WindyCityBorn wrote:
Substitute DeRozan in this mess and you would get the same result. He isn’t carrying this team.

I thought you were playing, but you actually believe what you what wrote? What a joke.

He’s obviously good, but as far as a max guy and all that, he doesn’t elevate the guys around him much the way I think the elite players should. I can see a loss being acceptable to some level, but no way this should be a blowout with true leadership.


Remember the whole Kobe "I'm coming to Chicago" stuff? Well, what precipitated that is LA being really mediocre for several years with Kobe having some of his best years. Obviously Lavine isn't Kobe but its a false narrative that top players can turn crap into a good team. Old Bulls fans like myself saw MJ play 82 games and drop 37 a night for a 40 and 42 team.

The media likes to create these narratives about "winners" and "losers" for the top dog but its bullcrap. They just don't want to run stories about the 5th and 6th guy on a team. You get more clicks when you either build up or tear down the top guy.

The Bulls crap was about as good as the Heat crap, that blew us off the floor
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Re: PG: Windy City Bulls lose 

Post#74 » by coldfish » Sun Dec 12, 2021 4:29 am

fleet wrote:
coldfish wrote:
fleet wrote:He’s obviously good, but as far as a max guy and all that, he doesn’t elevate the guys around him much the way I think the elite players should. I can see a loss being acceptable to some level, but no way this should be a blowout with true leadership.


Remember the whole Kobe "I'm coming to Chicago" stuff? Well, what precipitated that is LA being really mediocre for several years with Kobe having some of his best years. Obviously Lavine isn't Kobe but its a false narrative that top players can turn crap into a good team. Old Bulls fans like myself saw MJ play 82 games and drop 37 a night for a 40 and 42 team.

The media likes to create these narratives about "winners" and "losers" for the top dog but its bullcrap. They just don't want to run stories about the 5th and 6th guy on a team. You get more clicks when you either build up or tear down the top guy.

The Bulls crap was about as good as the Heat crap, that blew us off the floor


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Re: PG: Windy City Bulls lose 

Post#75 » by mj234eva » Sun Dec 12, 2021 4:33 am

coldfish wrote:
fleet wrote:
WindyCityBorn wrote:
Substitute DeRozan in this mess and you would get the same result. He isn’t carrying this team.

I thought you were playing, but you actually believe what you what wrote? What a joke.

He’s obviously good, but as far as a max guy and all that, he doesn’t elevate the guys around him much the way I think the elite players should. I can see a loss being acceptable to some level, but no way this should be a blowout with true leadership.


Remember the whole Kobe "I'm coming to Chicago" stuff? Well, what precipitated that is LA being really mediocre for several years with Kobe having some of his best years. Obviously Lavine isn't Kobe but its a false narrative that top players can turn crap into a good team. Old Bulls fans like myself saw MJ play 82 games and drop 37 a night for a 40 and 42 team.

The media likes to create these narratives about "winners" and "losers" for the top dog but its bullcrap. They just don't want to run stories about the 5th and 6th guy on a team. You get more clicks when you either build up or tear down the top guy.


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Re: PG: Windy City Bulls lose 

Post#76 » by BeatDaCavs420 » Sun Dec 12, 2021 4:35 am

fleet wrote:Zach, he is not an impactful guy. Empty stats charge holds on…

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Re: PG: Windy City Bulls lose 

Post#77 » by mj234eva » Sun Dec 12, 2021 4:35 am

fleet wrote:
coldfish wrote:
fleet wrote:He’s obviously good, but as far as a max guy and all that, he doesn’t elevate the guys around him much the way I think the elite players should. I can see a loss being acceptable to some level, but no way this should be a blowout with true leadership.


Remember the whole Kobe "I'm coming to Chicago" stuff? Well, what precipitated that is LA being really mediocre for several years with Kobe having some of his best years. Obviously Lavine isn't Kobe but its a false narrative that top players can turn crap into a good team. Old Bulls fans like myself saw MJ play 82 games and drop 37 a night for a 40 and 42 team.

The media likes to create these narratives about "winners" and "losers" for the top dog but its bullcrap. They just don't want to run stories about the 5th and 6th guy on a team. You get more clicks when you either build up or tear down the top guy.

The Bulls crap was about as good as the Heat crap, that blew us off the floor


Heat had two players play "above" their heads. Bulls had literally none. And their (the Bulls) 2nd and 3rd best player under performed. Obvious loss.
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Post#78 » by mj234eva » Sun Dec 12, 2021 4:36 am

FriedRise wrote:
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I know exactly what's going on. They aren't going in.
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Re: PG: Windy City Bulls lose 

Post#79 » by mj234eva » Sun Dec 12, 2021 4:37 am

CaPiTanAK wrote:
fleet wrote:Zach, he is not an impactful guy. Empty stats charge holds on…


Some aspect to this team holds true. Zach, despite his stats, doesn't know how to win basketball games.

If you replace Zach with a Lebron / Michael Jordan / Kobe type of player, that player with 4 other G-league scrubs wouldn't lose tonight game, much less let a team full of journeymen blow them out on their home court.


Facts! The Lebron led Lakers are dominating the league right now!
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Re: PG: Windy City Bulls lose 

Post#80 » by BeatDaCavs420 » Sun Dec 12, 2021 4:37 am

WindyCityBorn wrote:
fleet wrote:Zach, he is not an impactful guy. Empty stats charge holds on…


Your sarcasm is not as easy to detect as you might think. I have seen people actually use these last two losses as proof the Bulls aren’t for real. Of course those people are still extremely ignorant and/or don’t know we are missing half of our team. Screw Silver and the entire NBA for this mess.

Amen brother

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