DCasey91 wrote:Doctor MJ wrote:DCasey91 wrote:
No thanks talking to a GSW fan. They have a +5 net rating when Curry sits that’s a great number and would beat .500 teams.
Fat chance Clarkson is a top 5 player in the comp.
Don’t think GSW dropped so far off the mark as Nuggets do this year relative wise when Jokic sits. He carries both their offense and defense not just one or the other.
Last time I checked Curry doesn’t give you near elite defense which GSW had.
Wasn’t it one of the adv metrics that paints Curry in an exorbitant light. Don’t answer it I’ll find it for myself
Dude can go 8/20 have 3+ turnovers and GSW win by 10. Not exactly best player impact.
Fail to acknowledge he’s had the most average games out of the four, but it’s Steph he does no wrong.
Hopefully I’m not talking to WarriorsGM he’s probably living in a different world with all this talk about his favorite son lol.
You’re confusing production for impact, and this confusion has been at the heart of why Curry has been underrated ever since Kerr got there and implemented a scheme that maximized gravitational impact.
Even when Curry’s shot is missing, the defense still leaves gaps open for his teammates, and that’s why Curry’s plus minus numbers have been so impressive all these years.
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Not confusing anything with anything. Since when did it become assumption college. Kerr’s system at some level requires smart bball players
Isn’t this the first year albeit very small sample where Curry + Green hasn’t produced its usual nuclear results only semi nuclear so far? It’s like some weird duo that matches perfectly together
Are you going to be the one to create a Curry all in one gravity index on miss shots = guaranteed offense? Good luck lot of noise in the background.
Not taking away anything from Curry
But does he bring elite defense? No
Has he had the most quiet games out of the 4 candidates? Yes
Will he win MVP? Most likely
I reckon to me posters undergarments got too tight without actually reading what is wrote and forming instant emotive even before an iota of a formation of a point was to begin.
The original thought was Jokic best player this year,
Jokic has less help than Curry last year. Alluding to Media and narrative hypocrisy cool I’ll share the boat with captain obvious.
Curry hasn’t been the best player this year and has more help and more down games.
MVP means most valuable. Jokic by definition has been more valuable to his own team in winning a game by strictly being a more “impactful” player on both ends of the court.” +500 when he plays (11-9)
So simple but it’s not to the untrained eye lol.
The trained vermin would have countered with well shouldn’t then would you say Curry should have been MVP last year basing it off the proviso taking a bad team to instant playability then I say no but alas Jokic still had a far superior year one of hot shooting month doesn’t make a season!
Then you counter with well so far we’re what 20+ games in? And I say well played sport let’s have a drink we are wise and we can talk like normal people again.
Don’t worry I did all the forecasting just then. All done
I'm sorry my friend, but you specifically talked about days when Curry missed shots and the team still did well and asked "That's impact?". Making & missing shots is production, how the team is able to do with you on the floor is impact, so you are literally confusing those two things in the way we typically talk about them. Yes production influences impact, but we use the term 'impact' to emphasize that there's more that's going on than the box score.
Re: Kerr's system requires smart players. Sure, but the roster right now has all sorts of guys on it that were available to everyone else in the league for years and yet couldn't cement their place into the league before now. You have to factor in that some of the players who thrive with Kerr's system have skills other teams aren't looking for, and thus it's not necessarily the case that they should be seen as harder to get.
I'll note specifically that the fact that basically no one predicted that the Warriors would be anywhere near this good should I would argue that should give everyone pause when they look to downplay the value of any of the key people involved in building the foundation of that success. The answer here is not that the Warriors just happened to find a bunch of amazing player on minimum contracts. They have a foundation that allowed this sort of success to occur.
Re: So simple but it’s not to the untrained eye lol. Dude, Curry & Jokic are both guys I've been championing for forever so I love that you are praising Jokic here...but if you don't understand why Curry is rightfully a super-strong MVP candidate from my perspective, it's not because your eye is too trained. I understand perfectly you worldview here, including your frustration with those blindly falling prey to winning bias. I'm not in the category of naïve folks you think I am.
