Covid Outbreak with Chicago Bulls and League not doing anything? (Update: The league did something - pg 10)

[ch434355]

i dont think a couple more would make any difference lol we have no PGs and no Cs, we'd just be swapping out more wings for wings

5 is not comparable to 9. The Bulls are a danger to every team they face right now. Guys they've brought in because of COVID have immediately landed on the list. They also have 2 announced out with COVID. It is absolutely covering that organization right now.

sounds like they should forfeit

Well thought out response.

[KembaWalker]

5 is not comparable to 9. The Bulls are a danger to every team they face right now. Guys they've brought in because of COVID have immediately landed on the list. They also have 2 announced out with COVID. It is absolutely covering that organization right now.

sounds like they should forfeit

Well thought out response.

if you cant field a team then take the L, other teams are doing their best with whatever injuries and covid they have.
not fair to any other teams to have to play rescheduled games with the Bulls while we wait for them to get healthy

[ch434355]

sounds like they should forfeit

Well thought out response.

if you cant field a team then take the L, other teams are doing their best with whatever injuries and covid they have.
not fair to any other teams to have to play rescheduled games with the Bulls while we wait for them to get healthy

Dude this is about keeping other teams from catching the virus from the Bulls. You think teams want to play the Bulls right now? Hell no. Everyone wants to stay away from the Bulls right now. This is about protecting the whole league so we don't have to shutdown again.

[Bernman]

in the middle of it
its been really fun watching our rooks and g leaguers get a chance

Thank you. That's actually reasonable and secure. And the Hornets haven't exactly been lighting it up in recent years either.

Can you imagine this thread being started & backed up by fans of the: Nets, Heat, Sixers, Warriors, Suns, Jazz, LA teams, Bucks, etc.? I certainly can't. Because they're more secure fan bases, in part due to recent success.

This is the behavior of fan(atics) who are worried their team's hold on any sort of success is seriously tenuous. Want the league to alter rules when it serves them specifically, because they aren't confident the outcome would go their way otherwise.

[Bernman]

Here's what happened. You won the title, and now you're hyper sensitive to anybody else having fun or winning, and you feel threatened by it. You clearly are annoyed by the Bulls getting out to a hot start. That's why you came into a thread about a covid outbreak and immediately turned it into a "lol we just won the title and we're better than you" argument. You don't care about having a discussion over when a team should be shut down. You just want to be mad at the Bulls and their fans.

This is the voices in your own head, guy. There's zero evidence I care about the Bulls. Show it in my posting history otherwise. You can't. Whereas you're a Bulls' fan. The bias is built in. You're not making this case for anyone else.

I would have mocked Wizards' fan(s) in the same way if they started this thread, and I'm actually intrigued by the smart way they put their team together, to maximize resources.

It's a ridiculous topic that is barely worth any mind being paid to, thus the original flippant comment, which brought sensitive responses, and made the irrelevant matter of who my team was relevant, which you keep playing dumb about.

[SalmonsSuperfan]

in the middle of it
its been really fun watching our rooks and g leaguers get a chance

Thank you. That's actually reasonable and secure. And the Hornets haven't exactly been lighting it up in recent years either.

Can you imagine this thread being started & backed up by fans of the: Nets, Heat, Sixers, Warriors, Suns, Jazz, LA teams, Bucks, etc.? I certainly can't. Because they're more secure fan bases, in part due to recent success.

This is the behavior of fan(atics) who are worried their team's hold on any sort of success is seriously tenuous. Want the league to alter rules when it serves them specifically, because they aren't confident the outcome would go their way otherwise.

you really don't think it's strange that 9 players on one team have covid and that there seems to be a new case everyday? it's a matter of public health, not "fanaticism"

by the way that chart you posted on the previous page doesn't make any sense, the y axis basically just ranks teams by their records.

[Bernman]

you really don't think it's strange that 9 players on one team have covid and that there seems to be a new case everyday? it's a matter of public health, not "fanaticism"

by the way that chart you posted on the previous page doesn't make any sense, the y axis basically just ranks teams by their records.

It's almost exclusively Bulls' fans making the argument they should postpone games because of this, for supposed public health or other reasons.

And the circumstances are much different than a year ago. Anyone, in the States at least, can get a vaccine if they want it. And they have rapid testing capacity. So harmful outbreaks aren't being created in league or country by major sport's teams.

This is a competitive argument & it's something teams have to deal w/ across sports. The Philadelphia Union in MLS lost half their team for a one-off knockout playoff match. The league didn't change the rule & postpone it. If there was ever a justification, that would have been it.

These are a few regular season games of 82. Keep testing, isolate the positives, use the negatives, and get on w/ it until players are cleared to return in a week after mild or no symptoms. It's not a big deal.

[Los Bullies]

in the middle of it
its been really fun watching our rooks and g leaguers get a chance

Thank you. That's actually reasonable and secure. And the Hornets haven't exactly been lighting it up in recent years either.

Can you imagine this thread being started & backed up by fans of the: Nets, Heat, Sixers, Warriors, Suns, Jazz, LA teams, Bucks, etc.? I certainly can't. Because they're more secure fan bases, in part due to recent success.

This is the behavior of fan(atics) who are worried their team's hold on any sort of success is seriously tenuous. Want the league to alter rules when it serves them specifically, because they aren't confident the outcome would go their way otherwise.

To be fair, this is not the same situation.

I have seen Covid outbreaks throughout the league, 3-6 players out because of Covid... When the Bulls had 4-5 guys out I was like "eh—many teams have guys out around the league"... but now that I see 9 guys being out with Covid protocols, that deserves a thread IMO. It's actually one of the reasons why I came to the General Board

Yeah, guys...this is no bueno. If I am one of the opposing teams coming up on the Bulls schedule, I wouldn't want to face the Bulls.

At this point it's like who's next? Lonzo? and the next day Caruso?

Edit: At this point, I say keep the season going. If we get down to 5-6 players then maybe postpone some games
I wouldn't really want to make them up though. I would rather be fresh coming unto the playoffs—that is IF the Bulls make the playoffs

[bearadonisdna]

you really don't think it's strange that 9 players on one team have covid and that there seems to be a new case everyday? it's a matter of public health, not "fanaticism"

by the way that chart you posted on the previous page doesn't make any sense, the y axis basically just ranks teams by their records.

It's almost exclusively Bulls' fans making the argument they should postpone games because of this, for supposed public health or other reasons.

And the circumstances are much different than a year ago. Anyone, in the States at least, can get a vaccine if they want it. And they have rapid testing capacity. So harmful outbreaks aren't being created in league or country by major sport's teams.

This is a competitive argument & it's something teams have to deal w/ across sports. The Philadelphia Union in MLS lost half their team for a one-off knockout playoff match. The league didn't change the rule & postpone it. If there was ever a justification, that would have been it.

These are a few regular season games of 82. Keep testing, isolate the positives, use the negatives, and get on w/ it until players are cleared to return in a week. It's not a big deal.

It is a big deal . Am not advocating postponing games but the safety issue is egregious.

[bearadonisdna]

Nba games are hot bed for contracting the virus.
At this point this is not a good product.
The league would be within their right to flat out cancel games league wide to regain a bit of medical normalcy.

[Bernman]

To be fair, this is not the same situation.

I have seen Covid outbreaks throughout the league, 3-6 players out because of Covid... When the Bulls had 4-5 guys out I was like "eh—many teams have guys out around the league... but now that I see 9 guys being out with Covid protocols, that deserves a thread IMO. It's actually one of the reasons why I came to the General Board

Yeah, guys...this is no bueno. If I am one of the opposing teams coming up on the Bulls schedule, I wouldn't want to face the Bulls.

At this point it's like who's next? Lonzo? and the next day Caruso?

OK, start a thread about it. It's a notable enough event.

But it shouldn't be with the implication leagues should do something about it, when they haven't before, and in the grand scheme of an 82 game season it's minor.

If the Bulls were going to do anything meaningful in the season, they won't be felled by going 0-3 or 1-2 for a 3-game stretch, instead of 2-1. The Bucks had the best regular season record 2 years running, and didn't make the finals. Then they had the 7th best and won the c'ship. Regular season isn't very meaningful. Let's be honest. You just have to be good enough to make the playoffs. And the teams barely doing so aren't contending.

Could at least wait to make this stand in the playoffs. If there's a time to have a covid outbreak, this is out. Now most of your players will have stronger immunity for when it really counts.

[azcatz11]

Nba games are hot bed for contracting the virus.
At this point this is not a good product.
The league would be within their right to flat out cancel games league wide to regain a bit of medical normalcy.

Lol no one is cancelling games league wide. This isn’t 2020 anymore

[BigDan245]

If guys haven't gotten the booster yet, this is gonna happen to every team...Yes you can get a breakthrough with the booster of course, but it's a lot less likely. If you've gotten your 2nd shot 4-6 months ago, I think I read it's only about 35% effective.

We're probably going to need to get yearly boosters just like the flu shot...Only difference with covid is, it doesn't go away in the late spring/summer. So it might need to be 6-8 months you need a boost.

[bearadonisdna]

Nba games are hot bed for contracting the virus.
At this point this is not a good product.
The league would be within their right to flat out cancel games league wide to regain a bit of medical normalcy.

Lol no one is cancelling games league wide. This isn’t 2020 anymore

Who cares what year is it.
The product is infected . It’s a defective product.

[cool007]

Update my list of recently infected players

Updated

Hornets: LaMello, Rozier, PJ Washington, Mason, Richards, McDaniels, Ish,
Bulls: DeRozan, Ayo, Stanley Jonhson, Derrick Jones, Coby White, Javonte Green, Matt Thomas, Lavine, Troy Brown
Sixers: Embiid, Harris, Thybulle, joe
Knicks: Topin, RJ,
Denver: Bones, Rivers
Memphis: Morant
Wizards: Kuzma
Raptors: Precious

This is what I was afraid of. Now Lavine and Troy Brown got Covid and it's spreading so badddddddd. '

Every day there is another player or 2 out for Bulls, at this pace I can see not only the rest of the Bulls getting Covid and be out but also coaching staff etc.

Also, I would not be surprised if the teams that Bulls just faced recently (Cavs, Heat) also have players in health and safety protocols soon in the coming days.

[JujitsuFlip]

Nba games are hot bed for contracting the virus.
At this point this is not a good product.
The league would be within their right to flat out cancel games league wide to regain a bit of medical normalcy.

Lol no one is cancelling games league wide. This isn’t 2020 anymore

Who cares what year is it.
The product is infected . It’s a defective product.

Nba would rather play the games with a bad product than cancel games. They still get ad revenue, ticket sales, concession sales, broadcasting money etc.

[vital_signs]

They should just let players play and let unvaccinated players sign a waiver saying they are ok with getting it. Rational people have moved on from the fear porn.

[My2CentsR]

We've been dealing with, why can't the Bulls?

It especially comes off as whining when, for all we know, one of the Bulls players (Coby White) could have started the outbreak that has torn through the Hornets roster.

Vuc was the first Bulls player to get it after guarding Embiid who tested positive after playing the Bulls.

[G R E Y]

Wasn't there something about teams forfeiting games rather than their being rescheduled for Covid this season?

I understand the points some are making, I've made it myself, where a few players being out due to Covid is something a team has to deal with, but with nine players out for the Bulls it is getting dangerous for opponents, too.

So if a team can't field enough players, does it forfeit the game now?

I wonder if the league will step in and say, no Bulls can't play because they're too contagious. Have there been players from other teams who have tested positive after playing the Bulls?

[My2CentsR]

Update my list of recently infected players

Updated

Hornets: LaMello, Rozier, PJ Washington, Mason, Richards, McDaniels, Ish,
Bulls: DeRozan, Ayo, Stanley Jonhson, Derrick Jones, Coby White, Javonte Green, Matt Thomas, Lavine, Troy Brown
Sixers: Embiid, Harris, Thybulle, joe
Knicks: Topin, RJ,
Denver: Bones, Rivers
Memphis: Morant
Wizards: Kuzma
Raptors: Precious

This is what I was afraid of. Now Lavine and Troy Brown got Covid and it's spreading so badddddddd. '

Every day there is another player or 2 out for Bulls, at this pace I can see not only the rest of the Bulls getting Covid and be out but also coaching staff etc.

Also, I would not be surprised if the teams that Bulls just faced recently (Cavs, Heat) also have players in health and safety protocols soon in the coming days.

Our two broadcasters, Stacey King and Bill Wennington, are also on protocol. I feel bad for Bulls players as well as the teams that recently played us or will be playing us.