Covid Outbreak with Chicago Bulls and League not doing anything? (Update: The league did something - pg 10)

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Post#121 » by azcatz11 » Sun Dec 12, 2021 10:39 pm

GREY 1769 wrote:Wasn't there something about teams forfeiting games rather than their being rescheduled for Covid this season?

I understand the points some are making, I've made it myself, where a few players being out due to Covid is something a team has to deal with, but with nine players out for the Bulls it is getting dangerous for opponents, too.

So if a team can't field enough players, does it forfeit the game now?

I wonder if the league will step in and say, no Bulls can't play because they're too contagious. Have there been players from other teams who have tested positive after playing the Bulls?


Why can’t they just bring up G League players?
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Post#122 » by bearadonisdna » Sun Dec 12, 2021 10:57 pm

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GREY 1769 wrote:Wasn't there something about teams forfeiting games rather than their being rescheduled for Covid this season?

I understand the points some are making, I've made it myself, where a few players being out due to Covid is something a team has to deal with, but with nine players out for the Bulls it is getting dangerous for opponents, too.

So if a team can't field enough players, does it forfeit the game now?

I wonder if the league will step in and say, no Bulls can't play because they're too contagious. Have there been players from other teams who have tested positive after playing the Bulls?


Why can’t they just bring up G League players?


It’s not about the competition . It’s about the health and safety of the players.
All of a sudden the NBA are becoming spreader events. Getting people sick on wide scales . They gonna just keep going until god forbid somebody dies?
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Post#123 » by durden_tyler » Sun Dec 12, 2021 10:58 pm

Teams knew this kind of breakcout could happen to anyone this season. GM skills win i guess in this unique situation: your 10th to 15th guys in the roster should be ready to play.
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Post#124 » by DaPessimist » Sun Dec 12, 2021 11:00 pm

If I'm missing that many Starters, a couple more guys on the squad are twisting ankles and I'm getting the game postponed. :lol:
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Post#125 » by amcoolio » Sun Dec 12, 2021 11:02 pm

GREY 1769 wrote:Wasn't there something about teams forfeiting games rather than their being rescheduled for Covid this season?

I understand the points some are making, I've made it myself, where a few players being out due to Covid is something a team has to deal with, but with nine players out for the Bulls it is getting dangerous for opponents, too.

So if a team can't field enough players, does it forfeit the game now?

I wonder if the league will step in and say, no Bulls can't play because they're too contagious. Have there been players from other teams who have tested positive after playing the Bulls?


The only fair thing to do is forfeit, I mean it was the Bulls Coby White that got the Hornets infected and as a result they lost two very winnable games against the Sixers with half a team, those losses still count for us, as did the losses the Sixers took earlier without 4-5 of their players...would be completely unfair to "postpone" or reschedule from here on out
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Post#126 » by Ctownbulls » Sun Dec 12, 2021 11:41 pm

For the sake of protecting the rest of the roster and their opponents the Bulls games should be rescheduled. This is a league health concern not a Bulls concern.

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Post#127 » by G R E Y » Sun Dec 12, 2021 11:53 pm

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GREY 1769 wrote:Wasn't there something about teams forfeiting games rather than their being rescheduled for Covid this season?

I understand the points some are making, I've made it myself, where a few players being out due to Covid is something a team has to deal with, but with nine players out for the Bulls it is getting dangerous for opponents, too.

So if a team can't field enough players, does it forfeit the game now?

I wonder if the league will step in and say, no Bulls can't play because they're too contagious. Have there been players from other teams who have tested positive after playing the Bulls?


Why can’t they just bring up G League players?

Sure they can. That's one solution. But if like amcoolio noted earlier the league determines that the Bulls are spreading to other players, or the spread among the Bulls - or whichever team, I don't want to emphasize or isolate just one - is due to negligence then I wonder whether the league should step in?

I guess forfeiting is one option - again, not sure if I recall this correctly. No games have been forfeited yet. But then again, having a team full of G-Leaguers pretty much all but guarantees the same result. Still, if the balance of playing out the games versus spreading danger tilts towards the latter, what does the league do if Team A has been deemed responsible through contact tracing?
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Post#128 » by Jvaughn » Mon Dec 13, 2021 12:29 am

Ctownbulls wrote:For the sake of protecting the rest of the roster and their opponents the Bulls games should be rescheduled. This is a league health concern not a Bulls concern.

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Yep, and we're seeing players on other teams contracting after playing the Bulls now. This is a danger to all teams.
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Post#129 » by Mk0 » Mon Dec 13, 2021 12:33 am

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Ctownbulls wrote:For the sake of protecting the rest of the roster and their opponents the Bulls games should be rescheduled. This is a league health concern not a Bulls concern.

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Yep, and we're seeing players on other teams contracting after playing the Bulls now. This is a danger to all teams.

And at a glance the Bulls got it from Vuc guarding Embiid on back to back games when he had it back in November.

* This isn't pointing any fingers just showing that it only takes one guy on another team to spread to another team/city.
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Post#130 » by Sothron » Mon Dec 13, 2021 12:49 am

amcoolio wrote:
GREY 1769 wrote:Wasn't there something about teams forfeiting games rather than their being rescheduled for Covid this season?

I understand the points some are making, I've made it myself, where a few players being out due to Covid is something a team has to deal with, but with nine players out for the Bulls it is getting dangerous for opponents, too.

So if a team can't field enough players, does it forfeit the game now?

I wonder if the league will step in and say, no Bulls can't play because they're too contagious. Have there been players from other teams who have tested positive after playing the Bulls?


The only fair thing to do is forfeit, I mean it was the Bulls Coby White that got the Hornets infected and as a result they lost two very winnable games against the Sixers with half a team, those losses still count for us, as did the losses the Sixers took earlier without 4-5 of their players...would be completely unfair to "postpone" or reschedule from here on out


Completely agree with this. You can't keep putting zombie teams on the court to spread the zombie virus to other teams. Which, by the nature of a global zombie pandemic, simply pass the zombie virus on to ANOTHER team. And the cycle continues and grows.

Best thing to do is simply to forfeit games or reschedule them. And since the NBA IIRC said it won't reschedule games it only leaves the forfeit games option.
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Post#131 » by DroseReturnChi » Mon Dec 13, 2021 1:01 am

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amcoolio wrote:
GREY 1769 wrote:Wasn't there something about teams forfeiting games rather than their being rescheduled for Covid this season?

I understand the points some are making, I've made it myself, where a few players being out due to Covid is something a team has to deal with, but with nine players out for the Bulls it is getting dangerous for opponents, too.

So if a team can't field enough players, does it forfeit the game now?

I wonder if the league will step in and say, no Bulls can't play because they're too contagious. Have there been players from other teams who have tested positive after playing the Bulls?


The only fair thing to do is forfeit, I mean it was the Bulls Coby White that got the Hornets infected and as a result they lost two very winnable games against the Sixers with half a team, those losses still count for us, as did the losses the Sixers took earlier without 4-5 of their players...would be completely unfair to "postpone" or reschedule from here on out


Completely agree with this. You can't keep putting zombie teams on the court to spread the zombie virus to other teams. Which, by the nature of a global zombie pandemic, simply pass the zombie virus on to ANOTHER team. And the cycle continues and grows.

Best thing to do is simply to forfeit games or reschedule them. And since the NBA IIRC said it won't reschedule games it only leaves the forfeit games option.


injury is part of games. no reschedule. the bulls should be more careful managing their players not get covid and enjoy fun at clubs. just dribble 24/7 the chance you get covid is 0.
then why did raptors suffer last season when they lost 10 wins?
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Post#132 » by kodo » Mon Dec 13, 2021 1:51 am

The Bulls announcer is in covid protocol, and his replacement is now also in covid protocol after just 2 games on the job. And these guys don't share the locker room or body up against the players.

This will 100% spread to other players.
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Post#133 » by Slacktard » Mon Dec 13, 2021 1:56 am

kodo wrote:The Bulls announcer is in covid protocol, and his replacement is now also in covid protocol after just 2 games on the job. And these guys don't share the locker room or body up against the players.

This will 100% spread to other players.


Wasn't Vucevic the first one to test positive and it was a few days after they played the Sixers and Embiid had tested positive and was out with COVID?
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Post#134 » by mediocrityrules » Mon Dec 13, 2021 2:01 am

If the Bulls don't forfeit and I'm the opposition right now, then i'd be forfeiting. Chalk one up in the L column, and keep my squad healthy.
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Post#135 » by step » Mon Dec 13, 2021 2:02 am

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kodo wrote:The Bulls announcer is in covid protocol, and his replacement is now also in covid protocol after just 2 games on the job. And these guys don't share the locker room or body up against the players.

This will 100% spread to other players.


Wasn't Vucevic the first one to test positive and it was a few days after they played the Sixers and Embiid had tested positive and was out with COVID?

Correct.

What scares me is when Omicron starts (if that's not what they already have)... that spreads like wildfire.
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Post#136 » by step » Mon Dec 13, 2021 2:05 am

azcatz11 wrote:
GREY 1769 wrote:Wasn't there something about teams forfeiting games rather than their being rescheduled for Covid this season?

I understand the points some are making, I've made it myself, where a few players being out due to Covid is something a team has to deal with, but with nine players out for the Bulls it is getting dangerous for opponents, too.

So if a team can't field enough players, does it forfeit the game now?

I wonder if the league will step in and say, no Bulls can't play because they're too contagious. Have there been players from other teams who have tested positive after playing the Bulls?


Why can’t they just bring up G League players?

The Bulls already have called up like 5. As others point out... that basically sets the result in stone too.
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Post#137 » by Soulyss » Mon Dec 13, 2021 2:17 am

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Soulyss wrote:Are the Bulls players who are testing positive vax'd or not? Breakthroughs happen, but this seems too far reached to be breakthrough cases.

Good news for Bulls fans is that if they are vax'd, the odds of severe symptoms are very low so they should be back quick.


95% of the league is vaxed, so I'm sure all of the Bulls are.

If severe symptoms are very low with the vaxed, then why are we so afraid of spread?


Because it can mutate, because not all kids can get a shot yet, because people that are immune compromised or have underlying health issues can still get severe covid which is more likely to be deadly. It's not rocket science.

There are still vaccination holdouts, I am simply curious if the Bulls had a couple of holdouts (like Beal for example).
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Post#138 » by Betta Bulleavit » Mon Dec 13, 2021 2:26 am

Soulyss wrote:
Liam_Gallagher wrote:
Soulyss wrote:Are the Bulls players who are testing positive vax'd or not? Breakthroughs happen, but this seems too far reached to be breakthrough cases.

Good news for Bulls fans is that if they are vax'd, the odds of severe symptoms are very low so they should be back quick.


95% of the league is vaxed, so I'm sure all of the Bulls are.

If severe symptoms are very low with the vaxed, then why are we so afraid of spread?


Because it can mutate, because not all kids can get a shot yet, because people that are immune compromised or have underlying health issues can still get severe covid which is more likely to be deadly. It's not rocket science.

There are still vaccination holdouts, I am simply curious if the Bulls had a couple of holdouts (like Beal for example).

So then it goes back to the question of, why play the games at all…much less allow full buildings again? It just feels like a lot of double talk to me.

And to your point about the Bulls vaccination status, it is our understanding that the Bulls were 100% vaxed.
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Post#139 » by Dave_R » Mon Dec 13, 2021 2:40 am

It the NBA was serious about not spreading Covid, they would: (1) require all teams to fly only via chartered flights (many/most probably do anyway); (2) "buy" or have living quarters in each city for each visiting team to use -- including a "bubble" with cooks, chambermaids, etc.); and (3) tell each team that they will be traveling from "bubble" to "bubble."
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Post#140 » by Jo Jo English » Mon Dec 13, 2021 3:54 am

Soulyss wrote:Because it can mutate, because not all kids can get a shot yet, because people that are immune compromised or have underlying health issues can still get severe covid which is more likely to be deadly. It's not rocket science.

There are still vaccination holdouts, I am simply curious if the Bulls had a couple of holdouts (like Beal for example).


I remember reading an article near the beginning of the season that stated they were 100% vaccinated.

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