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god shammgod wrote:macri is out of his mind. i'm listening to his youtube postgame and he think you could trade randle to portland for cj and get draft assets with him. jesus. all the "fan media" are such homers. it's disgusting.
K-DOT wrote:god shammgod wrote:macri is out of his mind. i'm listening to his youtube postgame and he think you could trade randle to portland for cj and get draft assets with him. jesus. all the "fan media" are such homers. it's disgusting.
I will counter with, if the reports Portland wants Perry are accurate, that might happen
Perry loves his PFs, after all, as well as 3rd, 4th, 5th chances on his guys from prior teams.
knickstape4ever wrote:louisorr wrote:knickstape4ever wrote:
that's an overreaction. Randle is clearly very talented, he has value
problem is: here, he is the unquestioned #1 option. he's not that. he's a 3rd option
I don't know, three years ago he wasn't exactly a hot free agent. he was basically on the Ross dress for less pile and we had money to burn. I don't think his 90 day hot streak changed his perception that much around the league
and now he has an all-star performance under his belt
he also must've had some market to land a 3yr/~60M deal
ibraheim718 wrote:Clyde_Style wrote:F N 11 wrote:Spoiler:
That is a hell of a highlight reel
I’m trying to think back to whom we’ve had with shooting form this nice and I’m drawing a blank between now and H2O
Novak was probably our best three point specialist in the last two decades, but that was pretty much the only thing he could do. Grimes has more game
Yeah, I’m sold on this kid simply because his shot is not going to be too streaky because his form is pure and his release is damn quick. IOW, he could become one of our most reliable options for some scoring most nights he gets any sustained run.
I know he could be game planned for, but not really. Anyone who can shoot that well from deep and that quickly is hard to guard in the NBA
His shooting form looks a little like Hubert Davis.
louisorr wrote:knickstape4ever wrote:louisorr wrote:I don't know, three years ago he wasn't exactly a hot free agent. he was basically on the Ross dress for less pile and we had money to burn. I don't think his 90 day hot streak changed his perception that much around the league
and now he has an all-star performance under his belt
he also must've had some market to land a 3yr/~60M deal
I guess some people around the league might still believe in him and what he showed last year and honestly the 21mil isn't terrible. but the length of the contract is a tough swallow. That's really the killer.
knickstape4ever wrote:god shammgod wrote:
When asked after Saturday’s practice if he’s getting nervous about the predicament that has the Knicks in an 11th-place tie and out of Eastern Conference playoff position, Randle shrugged it off.
“What would I have to be nervous about?’’ Randle said.
Are you optimistic?
“I’m not optimistic,’’ Randle said. “I believe in my team. I believe in my team for sure.’’
One source believes locker-room leadership has started to become an issue. Randle is not a born leader, self-admittedly the quiet type, as is Derrick Rose.
Other leadership candidates would be hard-pressed to be the team’s motivational speaker: Kemba Walker, banished from the rotation; Evan Fournier, the struggling French newcomer not known as an orator; Taj Gibson currently out of the playing mix.
“I think we’re all trying to get it turned around,’’ Randle said when asked about the leadership. “We’re working at it and trying to get a better focus of what we’re trying to do.’’
Last season, Reggie Bullock was an influential voice as was zealous locker-room cheerleader Theo Pinson.
“When you look at the team, there really isn’t an outspoken leader,’’ one NBA source said. “You look at every team in the NBA, they have an outspoken leader. Is there an outspoken leader or is everyone being too respectful to each other and not wanting to voice their opinion?’’
from yesterday. randle not a leader. a sad loner. he's the kid cudi of the nba. had 1 big album and now just dresses funny. sad.
Is this the start? maybe the media turning on him will force the FO hand to trade him
they already have a pretty good excuse to move him: the emergence of Obi....who they drafted
knickstape4ever wrote:HarthorneWingo wrote:knickstape4ever wrote:7-14 over last 21
that's no small sample size at ~1/4 the season
We have from 12/15/21 until 2/10/22 in order to fix this roster. Otherwise it will have to wait until the draft.
there's no fix this season. what's the best outcome? play-in tournament and another 1st round exit?
it's just not worth it
According to 538, we're projected to finish tied for 8th worst record
According to ESPN, we're projected to finish w/ the 7th worst record
According to Basketball-Ref., we're projected to finish w/ the 9th worst record
we're a bottom 10 team, much closer to the bottom than the top. the FO needs to realize this and lean into the fact that we suck this year, tank, and hopefully we can get a little lotto-luck/find a franchise player in the draft
god shammgod wrote:macri is out of his mind. i'm listening to his youtube postgame and he think you could trade randle to portland for cj and get draft assets with him. jesus. all the "fan media" are such homers. it's disgusting.
DaGawd wrote:knickstape4ever wrote:HarthorneWingo wrote:
We have from 12/15/21 until 2/10/22 in order to fix this roster. Otherwise it will have to wait until the draft.
there's no fix this season. what's the best outcome? play-in tournament and another 1st round exit?
it's just not worth it
According to 538, we're projected to finish tied for 8th worst record
According to ESPN, we're projected to finish w/ the 7th worst record
According to Basketball-Ref., we're projected to finish w/ the 9th worst record
we're a bottom 10 team, much closer to the bottom than the top. the FO needs to realize this and lean into the fact that we suck this year, tank, and hopefully we can get a little lotto-luck/find a franchise player in the draft
Yeah the only way I’m ok with turning this into a winning season is if we by some miracle decided to play the kids and they ended up being the catalyst behind those wins. Anything else is counter productive
knickstape4ever wrote:DaGawd wrote:knickstape4ever wrote:
there's no fix this season. what's the best outcome? play-in tournament and another 1st round exit?
it's just not worth it
According to 538, we're projected to finish tied for 8th worst record
According to ESPN, we're projected to finish w/ the 7th worst record
According to Basketball-Ref., we're projected to finish w/ the 9th worst record
we're a bottom 10 team, much closer to the bottom than the top. the FO needs to realize this and lean into the fact that we suck this year, tank, and hopefully we can get a little lotto-luck/find a franchise player in the draft
Yeah the only way I’m ok with turning this into a winning season is if we by some miracle decided to play the kids and they ended up being the catalyst behind those wins. Anything else is counter productive
it was actually fun watching Grimes play despite the loss. more than I can say about the sh*t show we've been watching for this season
would love if this FO had the self-awareness to admit that rebuilding and focusing on the youth they have/2022 draft positioning is what's best for the organization
DaGawd wrote:knickstape4ever wrote:DaGawd wrote:Yeah the only way I’m ok with turning this into a winning season is if we by some miracle decided to play the kids and they ended up being the catalyst behind those wins. Anything else is counter productive
it was actually fun watching Grimes play despite the loss. more than I can say about the sh*t show we've been watching for this season
would love if this FO had the self-awareness to admit that rebuilding and focusing on the youth they have/2022 draft positioning is what's best for the organization
Yeah.. you can’t tell they really have this hard on for preserving FA space with the way they punted the draft to save a few extra pennies… At least it appears they made solid picks where they finally settled in but damn..
knickstape4ever wrote:DaGawd wrote:knickstape4ever wrote:
it was actually fun watching Grimes play despite the loss. more than I can say about the sh*t show we've been watching for this season
would love if this FO had the self-awareness to admit that rebuilding and focusing on the youth they have/2022 draft positioning is what's best for the organization
Yeah.. you can’t tell they really have this hard on for preserving FA space with the way they punted the draft to save a few extra pennies… At least it appears they made solid picks where they finally settled in but damn..
was really annoyed w/ their draft for the same reason. felt they punted on it. nothing against Grimes and McBride, but we could've had both of them + taken a swing at a higher upside player
and they did it to preserve 2 max spots for 2023/24 offseason....when is this organization gonna learn? we have a better shot at landing a star in the lotto than in FA, FO just needs to be willing to bottom out
F N 11 wrote:If anybody take Randle for 4 1/2 years we lucky af. Someone mentioned there would be politics even if someone wants him. “Other players won’t want to come after they see how we treated Randle.”
Clyde_Style wrote:F N 11 wrote:If anybody take Randle for 4 1/2 years we lucky af. Someone mentioned there would be politics even if someone wants him. “Other players won’t want to come after they see how we treated Randle.”
Those fears are meaningless. If the club improves its fortunes by trading a player then it's a good move and any prospective Knick would see that
