2021-22 NBA MVP Discussion (Pt. 1)

[JN61]

This Kevin Durant guy is good at the basketball.

[mediocrityrules]

This Kevin Durant guy is good at the basketball.

Nash has to get him more help.

He just played the entire second half of a RS game in December against the worst team in the league. He'll be burnt out if Nash doesn't figure out how to reduce his minutes. Before today he was already 4-5th most minutes per game, and played nearly 42 minutes today.

[Hello Brooklyn]

Durant outscored him slightly, didn't outplay him at all. Even if he did that would be as **** an argument as the one where people used to say Deron Williams was better than Paul because he beat him head to head. Silly comparing a guy who has always played with a superstar lead guard and yet only won when he jumped on a 73 win team to a guy who won the very first time he had a guard better than Eric Bledsoe to play off.

Curry at his peak may have had an argument with Giannis and Joker I guess, he's not that guy this year.

“This ain’t it”.

KD is an MVP and actually was better than Giannis last year including the playoffs. You were a tip toe away from being ousted to a team at 3/5ths strength because of him. That’s a fact.

As for Curry, he does not need to be at his peak to be more impactful than Giannis. Although he’s still clearly in his prime and re EPM/RAPTOR/plus-minus (and… team dominance with 45 million on the bench), proving more impactful as is.

KD wasn't the best player on his own team until Harden hurt his hamstring. He also went 0-6 in overtime after being dumb enough to have both feet over the line while attempting a three. Your narrative is hilarious. Durant not winning when he doesn't have the best team in the league around him is what happens all the time. Giannis just won a title with a performance on both ends Durant could only dream about. That's a fact champ.

What an absurd claim

Harden was never the best player on the Nets. Not even close. In fact it was close between him and Kyrie for 2nd.

Hilarious for you to make fun of Durant for running out of gas in OT after scoring 50 and dragging the Nets to overtime when his 2nd best player was Bruce Brown and Harden was on one leg.

If Middelton was out and Holiday was on one leg, Giannis gets blown out all 3 games by 20. Man was already losing by 50 with just KD and Kyrie healthy.

So impressive to beat half the Nets, the Hawks after a ref injured Trae Young and the Suns whos best player is 5'11 and a notorious choker.

[Hello Brooklyn]

Durant outscored him slightly, didn't outplay him at all. Even if he did that would be as **** an argument as the one where people used to say Deron Williams was better than Paul because he beat him head to head. Silly comparing a guy who has always played with a superstar lead guard and yet only won when he jumped on a 73 win team to a guy who won the very first time he had a guard better than Eric Bledsoe to play off.

Curry at his peak may have had an argument with Giannis and Joker I guess, he's not that guy this year.

“This ain’t it”.

KD is an MVP and actually was better than Giannis last year including the playoffs. You were a tip toe away from being ousted to a team at 3/5ths strength because of him. That’s a fact.

As for Curry, he does not need to be at his peak to be more impactful than Giannis. Although he’s still clearly in his prime and re EPM/RAPTOR/plus-minus (and… team dominance with 45 million on the bench), proving more impactful as is.

KD wasn't the best player on his own team until Harden hurt his hamstring. He also went 0-6 in overtime after being dumb enough to have both feet over the line while attempting a three. Your narrative is hilarious. Durant not winning when he doesn't have the best team in the league around him is what happens all the time. Giannis just won a title with a performance on both ends Durant could only dream about. That's a fact champ.

OF COURSE he outplayed Giannis.

Even Giannis said so.

Anyone with any objectivity knows Durant was the best player in the building. Man was shooting 50% from the line and getting laughed at until the whole **** team was injured

[Hello Brooklyn]

I don't see why Steph is the runaway favorite.

Yes the Warriors have the best record. But Steph is not playing like the best player in the league. His efficiency is certainly down from other seasons. And he has great defenders everywhere to mask his weakness.

KD is basically leading the Nets to the best record in the East with no Kyrie, no Harris and Harden playing like ****.

Hes the leading scorer in the league and his teams best defensive player BY FAR. Almost playing 40 minutes a night.

[MindState]

Gotta add LeBron to the list. Hes got the Lakers playing great ball.

[MindState]

I don't see why Steph is the runaway favorite.

Yes the Warriors have the best record. But Steph is not playing like the best player in the league. His efficiency is certainly down from other seasons. And he has great defenders everywhere to mask his weakness.

KD is basically leading the Nets to the best record in the East with no Kyrie, no Harris and Harden playing like ****.

Hes the leading scorer in the league and his teams best defensive player BY FAR. Almost playing 40 minutes a night.

Probably because Curry isnt playing with a single all-star teammate, and KD has a top 10 player teammate who just won an MVP a couple years ago.

[SeanieWard]

I don't see why Steph is the runaway favorite.

Yes the Warriors have the best record. But Steph is not playing like the best player in the league. His efficiency is certainly down from other seasons. And he has great defenders everywhere to mask his weakness.

KD is basically leading the Nets to the best record in the East with no Kyrie, no Harris and Harden playing like ****.

Hes the leading scorer in the league and his teams best defensive player BY FAR. Almost playing 40 minutes a night.

Steph should not be the runaway favorite for MVP as of today. He started off the season playing like the runaway favorite but after the last few weeks I have KD, Jokic and Giannis ahead of him right now. He has to play much better to get back in the top 2 imo and it looks like KD will run away with the scoring title too..while doing it very efficiently

[Hello Brooklyn]

I don't see why Steph is the runaway favorite.

Yes the Warriors have the best record. But Steph is not playing like the best player in the league. His efficiency is certainly down from other seasons. And he has great defenders everywhere to mask his weakness.

KD is basically leading the Nets to the best record in the East with no Kyrie, no Harris and Harden playing like ****.

Hes the leading scorer in the league and his teams best defensive player BY FAR. Almost playing 40 minutes a night.

Probably because Curry isnt playing with a single all-star teammate, and KD has a top 10 player teammate who just won an MVP a couple years ago.

Harden is not even close to MVP level right now. Worst season of his career. And Draymond probably will be an all star this year.

[GSP]

I don't see why Steph is the runaway favorite.

Yes the Warriors have the best record. But Steph is not playing like the best player in the league. His efficiency is certainly down from other seasons. And he has great defenders everywhere to mask his weakness.

KD is basically leading the Nets to the best record in the East with no Kyrie, no Harris and Harden playing like ****.

Hes the leading scorer in the league and his teams best defensive player BY FAR. Almost playing 40 minutes a night.

Kd having 8 votes is very weird specially considering Demar. The hate Kd gets is bordering on the senseless and asinine hate Bron got/gets at this point

Warriors beat Pistons in Detroit on a b2b without Steph, Dray, Otto Porter or Iggy. Jerami Grant was playing then too.......Stephs main case ATM is how good his team is whether hes on the floor or not. Hes stunk it up for weeks now

[LikeABosh]

I don't see why Steph is the runaway favorite.

Yes the Warriors have the best record. But Steph is not playing like the best player in the league. His efficiency is certainly down from other seasons. And he has great defenders everywhere to mask his weakness.

KD is basically leading the Nets to the best record in the East with no Kyrie, no Harris and Harden playing like ****.

Hes the leading scorer in the league and his teams best defensive player BY FAR. Almost playing 40 minutes a night.

Well he doesn't even have that anymore.

Not sure why KD isn't getting more buzz (from the poll at least)

[MindState]

I don't see why Steph is the runaway favorite.

Yes the Warriors have the best record. But Steph is not playing like the best player in the league. His efficiency is certainly down from other seasons. And he has great defenders everywhere to mask his weakness.

KD is basically leading the Nets to the best record in the East with no Kyrie, no Harris and Harden playing like ****.

Hes the leading scorer in the league and his teams best defensive player BY FAR. Almost playing 40 minutes a night.

Probably because Curry isnt playing with a single all-star teammate, and KD has a top 10 player teammate who just won an MVP a couple years ago.

Harden is not even close to MVP level right now. Worst season of his career. And Draymond probably will be an all star this year.

I agree with you, but historically, teams with multiple MVP candidates end up splitting votes. KD/Steph were ineligible for MVP awards when they played together, even though they were clearly the two best players in the league at the time.

For what its worth, I have KD #1, Giannis #2 and Steph #3 after Curry's abysmal 2 week slump in which hes actively lost his team games by being so bad.

[AussieBuck]

“This ain’t it”.

KD is an MVP and actually was better than Giannis last year including the playoffs. You were a tip toe away from being ousted to a team at 3/5ths strength because of him. That’s a fact.

As for Curry, he does not need to be at his peak to be more impactful than Giannis. Although he’s still clearly in his prime and re EPM/RAPTOR/plus-minus (and… team dominance with 45 million on the bench), proving more impactful as is.

KD wasn't the best player on his own team until Harden hurt his hamstring. He also went 0-6 in overtime after being dumb enough to have both feet over the line while attempting a three. Your narrative is hilarious. Durant not winning when he doesn't have the best team in the league around him is what happens all the time. Giannis just won a title with a performance on both ends Durant could only dream about. That's a fact champ.

OF COURSE he outplayed Giannis.

Even Giannis said so.

Anyone with any objectivity knows Durant was the best player in the building. Man was shooting 50% from the line and getting laughed at until the whole **** team was injured

Blah blah Nets were Jeff Green turning into Curry for a game away from losing 4 straight. Nobody cares about your hypotheticals or how hard you so puff your chest out when your guy runs up a 50 in junk time against Detroit. Lulz

[feyki]

That's why democracy sucks. KD's getting %5 of the votes . Only eligibles please .

[KGtabake]

“This ain’t it”.

KD is an MVP and actually was better than Giannis last year including the playoffs. You were a tip toe away from being ousted to a team at 3/5ths strength because of him. That’s a fact.

As for Curry, he does not need to be at his peak to be more impactful than Giannis. Although he’s still clearly in his prime and re EPM/RAPTOR/plus-minus (and… team dominance with 45 million on the bench), proving more impactful as is.

KD wasn't the best player on his own team until Harden hurt his hamstring. He also went 0-6 in overtime after being dumb enough to have both feet over the line while attempting a three. Your narrative is hilarious. Durant not winning when he doesn't have the best team in the league around him is what happens all the time. Giannis just won a title with a performance on both ends Durant could only dream about. That's a fact champ.

OF COURSE he outplayed Giannis.

Even Giannis said so.

Anyone with any objectivity knows Durant was the best player in the building. Man was shooting 50% from the line and getting laughed at until the whole **** team was injured

"Objectivity" lol...
He averaged 32ppg on much better efficiency.
Much better defense.
You were laughing just like you guys were wishing for him to be injured.
He got the last laugh and a ring that counts way more than KDs 2 rings or the rings he will get with your superteam.
You see bud, Giannis has already surpassed KDs legacy at the age of 27. And there's nothing you can do about it.
You will watch him again this season as he will finish above KD in the MVP race

[MrBigShot]

I wouldn't worry about KD tiring himself out in the regular season. At their current pace he'll be able to sit a few games towards the end of the season, and he's good at pacing himself throughout the game. HIs movements are efficient and purposeful. What he's doing right now is really spectacular, especially given that he tore his achilles two seasons ago. KD the person may be insecure and petty, but man KD the basketball player really doesn't get the respect he deserves to be honest. He should be the consensus best player in the league and frontrunner for MVP. Certainly looked like it in the playoffs last year.

[DutchManDanFan]

I wouldn't worry about KD tiring himself out in the regular season. At their current pace he'll be able to sit a few games towards the end of the season, and he's good at pacing himself throughout the game. HIs movements are efficient and purposeful. What he's doing right now is really spectacular, especially given that he tore his achilles two seasons ago. KD the person may be insecure and petty, but man KD the basketball player really doesn't get the respect he deserves to be honest. He should be the consensus best player in the league and frontrunner for MVP. Certainly looked like it in the playoffs last year.

Nope. Last year in the playoffs he played too many minutes against the Bucks and got tired. Still he did extremely well, but not anymore in OT. When you play while tired, the chance to get injured is higher. And he's a year older now.
If the goal is to win another MVP, he might succeed this way. Giannis rather wins another Finals MVP.

[GSP]

I wouldn't worry about KD tiring himself out in the regular season. At their current pace he'll be able to sit a few games towards the end of the season, and he's good at pacing himself throughout the game. HIs movements are efficient and purposeful. What he's doing right now is really spectacular, especially given that he tore his achilles two seasons ago. KD the person may be insecure and petty, but man KD the basketball player really doesn't get the respect he deserves to be honest. He should be the consensus best player in the league and frontrunner for MVP. Certainly looked like it in the playoffs last year.

Nope. Last year in the playoffs he played too many minutes against the Bucks and got tired. Still he did extremely well, but not anymore in OT. When you play while tired, the chance to get injured is higher. And he's a year older now.
If the goal is to win another MVP, he might succeed this way. Giannis rather wins another Finals MVP.

With the rules nerfing Harden to maybe not even being a top 20 player anymore and Kyrie being done Brooklyn isn't a real title threat anyways. Their record against contenders shows this too might as well nab an Mvp

[DutchManDanFan]

OF COURSE he outplayed Giannis.

Even Giannis said so.

Giannis is a humble guy. I know you're not familiar with humility in the US.

Giannis is also a smart guy. When you win, you praise the no. 2.

[Mickey8]

This Kevin Durant guy is good at the basketball.

Nash has to get him more help.

He just played the entire second half of a RS game in December against the worst team in the league. He'll be burnt out if Nash doesn't figure out how to reduce his minutes. Before today he was already 4-5th most minutes per game, and played nearly 42 minutes today.

So having Harden on the team is not any help You pair him with the former MVP yet poor Kevin needs more help I wish Jokic have that kind of sidekick on his team.