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Re: Trade Ideas thread 

Post#21 » by SlimShady83 » Sat Dec 11, 2021 7:25 pm

https://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/7497089

I'd do this trade in a heartbeat. Heck I'd even throw in THT.

Portland is going to lose Lillard IF they can't bring in someone to help him and they will soon be in rebuilding mode..

I like AD ... But he way to SOFT for my liking as a big man and almost always taking games off due to some reason and when he not and loses, he blames tm8s etc etc

Then If that were to go through You'd have to find a way to trade Westbrook maybe for some bigs out there and picks or something?

The sad part is, Cry baby James won't let AD go and Lakers have to run every trade through Cry baby James first - one of many reasons I didn't want him on this team

So when doing trades, you'd have to ask yourself would Cry Baby James accept that.

And to the answer to the above trade = I doubt he would
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Re: Trade Ideas thread 

Post#22 » by JRoy » Sun Dec 12, 2021 1:10 am

SlimShady83 wrote:https://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/7497089

I'd do this trade in a heartbeat. Heck I'd even throw in THT.

Portland is going to lose Lillard IF they can't bring in someone to help him and they will soon be in rebuilding mode..

I like AD ... But he way to SOFT for my liking as a big man and almost always taking games off due to some reason and when he not and loses, he blames tm8s etc etc

Then If that were to go through You'd have to find a way to trade Westbrook maybe for some bigs out there and picks or something?

The sad part is, Cry baby James won't let AD go and Lakers have to run every trade through Cry baby James first - one of many reasons I didn't want him on this team

So when doing trades, you'd have to ask yourself would Cry Baby James accept that.

And to the answer to the above trade = I doubt he would


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Re: Trade Ideas thread 

Post#23 » by JRoy » Sun Dec 12, 2021 3:07 am

ROballer wrote:Why would I spin my head thinking of trades for other teams or for your amusement, just to prove you're full of **** for suggesting what you suggested?

You have a long track of idiotic trade proposals with no basement of reality. We're not getting premium guys for trash just because we're the Lakers and you're acting like we should be entitled to get away with thievery.

Why don't you go to the the Trades proposals thread or the Magic board and offer them two minimum guys and a couple of 2nd round picks, let's see how they react. You'd be ridiculed like no other.

That's why Lakers fans have a bad reputation and get picked on by other fanbases, precisely because of guys like you.


Centers who can make 3's AND rim protect are at a premium in today's league. And he also rebounds well.

Daniel Gafford who can't shoot a lick, can't rebound and is a WORSE rim protector than Bamba got paid 40 mil dollars this summer.
Jaren Jackson who can shoot but can't rebound at all and is a worse rim protector got paid 105 mil.
Even Brook Lopez who is well past 30 got paid 52 mil for his stretch 5 abilities and rim protection.
Myles Turner is an 80 mil man and he's on par if not worse than Bamba is right now.
Robert Williams is paid 54 mil.
Capela has 80 mil remaining on his contract.
Jarrett Allen is an 100 mil man.

And I can go on and on. Literally every top 10 rim protector in the league is getting paid heavy money. And those who can shoot the 3 on top and are young enough are getting 70+mil. It's a fact, not a presumption.
You're getting 40-50 mil easy just to block shots. You're getting 20 more if you can stretch the floor.

And yet here you are, saying he won't get paid just cause you feel like it. Check the market and the reality of things first and then come back with a reasonable response.


POR should try to work a deal for Bamba. He’d be a solid replacement for Nurk.
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Re: Trade Ideas thread 

Post#24 » by zuju » Sun Dec 12, 2021 4:13 am

ROballer wrote:Why would I spin my head thinking of trades for other teams or for your amusement, just to prove you're full of **** for suggesting what you suggested?

You have a long track of idiotic trade proposals with no basement of reality. We're not getting premium guys for trash just because we're the Lakers and you're acting like we should be entitled to get away with thievery.

Why don't you go to the the Trades proposals thread or the Magic board and offer them two minimum guys and a couple of 2nd round picks, let's see how they react. You'd be ridiculed like no other.

That's why Lakers fans have a bad reputation and get picked on by other fanbases, precisely because of guys like you.


Centers who can make 3's AND rim protect are at a premium in today's league. And he also rebounds well.

Daniel Gafford who can't shoot a lick, can't rebound and is a WORSE rim protector than Bamba got paid 40 mil dollars this summer.
Jaren Jackson who can shoot but can't rebound at all and is a worse rim protector got paid 105 mil.
Even Brook Lopez who is well past 30 got paid 52 mil for his stretch 5 abilities and rim protection.
Myles Turner is an 80 mil man and he's on par if not worse than Bamba is right now.
Robert Williams is paid 54 mil.
Capela has 80 mil remaining on his contract.
Jarrett Allen is an 100 mil man.

And I can go on and on. Literally every top 10 rim protector in the league is getting paid heavy money. And those who can shoot the 3 on top and are young enough are getting 70+mil. It's a fact, not a presumption.
You're getting 40-50 mil easy just to block shots. You're getting 20 more if you can stretch the floor.

And yet here you are, saying he won't get paid just cause you feel like it. Check the market and the reality of things first and then come back with a reasonable response.


It's just one trade idea. Guys need to get stimulated with some crazy proposal to start thinking out of the box. So throwing some ideas which may not be very doable / realistic is no strange. Fans of the other teams do the same thing as well.

And you know, we never know what Magic wants to do and how the situation changes as time goes by. Do they want to keep him or they want some reinforcement in the other position? Bamba is on a 7Mil contract. Just like Kuz 2 years ago, Magic can never get someone of Bamba's real value in any trade if you consider him a 10-15M/yr player. Bamba will be a restricted free agent. If, I mean if, Magic does not want to give him good money and the other teams offer him crazy money, he'd be gone and Magic lose him for nothing. So who knows.

As I've said, it depends on whether the Magic still wants him on the team. If not, whether a Nunn can satisfy their needs which I think he probably can't and whether a better proposal comes to Magics's eyes.

I've advocated to trade for him since last off season. It may sound unrealistic and fantasy to you. So be it. It's not the general board. We are discussing within this wall and we do not need to care about how other fan base reacts to this proposal.

No offense here, bro.
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Re: Trade Ideas thread 

Post#25 » by JRoy » Sun Dec 12, 2021 5:18 am

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ROballer wrote:Why would I spin my head thinking of trades for other teams or for your amusement, just to prove you're full of **** for suggesting what you suggested?

You have a long track of idiotic trade proposals with no basement of reality. We're not getting premium guys for trash just because we're the Lakers and you're acting like we should be entitled to get away with thievery.

Why don't you go to the the Trades proposals thread or the Magic board and offer them two minimum guys and a couple of 2nd round picks, let's see how they react. You'd be ridiculed like no other.

That's why Lakers fans have a bad reputation and get picked on by other fanbases, precisely because of guys like you.


Centers who can make 3's AND rim protect are at a premium in today's league. And he also rebounds well.

Daniel Gafford who can't shoot a lick, can't rebound and is a WORSE rim protector than Bamba got paid 40 mil dollars this summer.
Jaren Jackson who can shoot but can't rebound at all and is a worse rim protector got paid 105 mil.
Even Brook Lopez who is well past 30 got paid 52 mil for his stretch 5 abilities and rim protection.
Myles Turner is an 80 mil man and he's on par if not worse than Bamba is right now.
Robert Williams is paid 54 mil.
Capela has 80 mil remaining on his contract.
Jarrett Allen is an 100 mil man.

And I can go on and on. Literally every top 10 rim protector in the league is getting paid heavy money. And those who can shoot the 3 on top and are young enough are getting 70+mil. It's a fact, not a presumption.
You're getting 40-50 mil easy just to block shots. You're getting 20 more if you can stretch the floor.

And yet here you are, saying he won't get paid just cause you feel like it. Check the market and the reality of things first and then come back with a reasonable response.


It's just one trade idea. Guys need to get stimulated with some crazy proposal to start thinking out of the box. So throwing some ideas which may not be very doable / realistic is no strange. Fans of the other teams do the same thing as well.

And you know, we never know what Magic wants to do and how the situation changes as time goes by. Do they want to keep him or they want some reinforcement in the other position? Bamba is on a 7Mil contract. Just like Kuz 2 years ago, Magic can never get someone of Bamba's real value in any trade if you consider him a 10-15M/yr player. Bamba will be a restricted free agent. If, I mean if, Magic does not want to give him good money and the other teams offer him crazy money, he'd be gone and Magic lose him for nothing. So who knows.

As I've said, it depends on whether the Magic still wants him on the team. If not, whether a Nunn can satisfy their needs which I think he probably can't and whether a better proposal comes to Magics's eyes.

I've advocated to trade for him since last off season. It may sound unrealistic and fantasy to you. So be it. It's not the general board. We are discussing within this wall and we do not need to care about how other fan base reacts to this proposal.

No offense here, bro.


Of course.

IMO, the best move might be watching the waiver wire very closely, or taking a hard look at distressed assets that might be available with the assets on hand.
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Re: Trade Ideas thread 

Post#26 » by SlimShady83 » Sun Dec 12, 2021 6:21 am

I just saw a you tube proposed trade with Lakers and Indiana and with out giving up too much IMO and to be honest with you I quite like the below trade - I won't post youtube clip unless it's ok with MODS ... It just came up on my youtube channel as I watch B-ball on there too. so no I don't follow who ever it was that posted LOL

Pacers Out - Myles Turner

Lakers Out - DA Jordan, Kendrick Nunn, THT, 2026 1st round pick

I would do this trade in a heart beat...

Turner is only 25 and this would Allow "Mr Soft" = AD to play the 4 position.
We would still have Howard as a back up C ...

I'm sorry for all you THT fans out there, But I see him as Kuzma type of player "For LA" ... Great player lots of potential, but isn't made for LA.

Edit and would you really want to go through 4 years of training someone like THT just to see weather OR not he can become what everyone expect like we all did with Kuzma and changing his role every year?
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Re: Trade Ideas thread 

Post#27 » by Landsberger » Sun Dec 12, 2021 6:34 pm

It depends on what we're tying to do long term. Trading Davis with Westbrook would be a great way to rid ourselves of a long downturn. Get some young guys and 1st round picks in return. Let LeBron walk or let him arrange a trade to somewhere he wants to go for more picks and youth. Buy Melo out if we can't get more than spare change and start over.

Building around Davis isn't going to happen. No one is coming here to play with him over other destinations. Bron/Westbrook isn't going to work to the level Laker fans want (championship) either.

I know this won't happen but it should.
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Re: Trade Ideas thread 

Post#28 » by Kilroy » Sun Dec 12, 2021 8:26 pm

Landsberger wrote:It depends on what we're tying to do long term. Trading Davis with Westbrook would be a great way to rid ourselves of a long downturn. Get some young guys and 1st round picks in return. Let LeBron walk or let him arrange a trade to somewhere he wants to go for more picks and youth. Buy Melo out if we can't get more than spare change and start over.

Building around Davis isn't going to happen. No one is coming here to play with him over other destinations. Bron/Westbrook isn't going to work to the level Laker fans want (championship) either.

I know this won't happen but it should.


the problem is, I don't see anyone giving us young prospects or talent for Westbrook or AD at this point... AD has to show he's not declining before that happens...

Westbrook is just a terrible contract at this point.
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Post#29 » by Landsberger » Sun Dec 12, 2021 8:56 pm

Kilroy wrote:
Landsberger wrote:It depends on what we're tying to do long term. Trading Davis with Westbrook would be a great way to rid ourselves of a long downturn. Get some young guys and 1st round picks in return. Let LeBron walk or let him arrange a trade to somewhere he wants to go for more picks and youth. Buy Melo out if we can't get more than spare change and start over.

Building around Davis isn't going to happen. No one is coming here to play with him over other destinations. Bron/Westbrook isn't going to work to the level Laker fans want (championship) either.

I know this won't happen but it should.


the problem is, I don't see anyone giving us young prospects or talent for Westbrook or AD at this point... AD has to show he's not declining before that happens...

Westbrook is just a terrible contract at this point.


I think Davis would be attractive to a team on the rise that had a central star to build around.
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Re: Trade Ideas thread 

Post#30 » by Slava » Sun Dec 12, 2021 10:33 pm

Westbrook to Denver might be a workable proposal if they can’t get any other shot creation to help Jokic in the mean time. I’d be happy with Monte Morris, Will Barton and whoever else they dump on us. Might even make it a three way and get the old Buddy deal rehashed.
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Re: Trade Ideas thread 

Post#31 » by BEazy » Mon Dec 13, 2021 12:27 am

Highly doubt Myles Turner will get traded to LA. Pacers hate dealing with us and will ask for the multiple 1st round picks and THT/Reaves/Nunn in there as well. Remember Paul George trade talks? Rather go and ask Rockets what they want for Christian Wood.
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Re: Trade Ideas thread 

Post#32 » by BEazy » Mon Dec 13, 2021 12:33 am

ROballer wrote:Westbrook for Irving.

Kyrie won't get vaccinated in his lifetime and NY ain't changing their requirements laws to participate in indoor events anytime soon if ever during this pandemic.

As is anyone else. They will probably follow NY's path. I truly believe this is the last year season in which Kyrie will be able to play basketball as per the COVID vaccination rules. So anyone who wants to trade for him must know that this is a one year thing most likely.

With the threat of him retiring if traded and his general antics, no team will offer anything close of value for him.


The Nets will take Westbrook because he has a shorter contract to manage and he can reunite the OKC tri-fecta. Durant and Harden will probably ok this move as well. Better to have something than the nothing Irving gets them.

Also Irving will probably be on board with a move to the Lakers.



I like this idea because it gets rid of that 47 million dollar insane option that Westbrook has. Plus If Irving wants to retire or opt out and choose is own team that frees up significant salary.
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Post#33 » by TheHartBreakKid » Mon Dec 13, 2021 8:06 pm

Doesn't LA/CA have a similar Covid restrictions regarding NBA players?

anyways, as hilarious as it would be to see RW, harden, Durant reunited at this stage of their careers, there is no way in hell that happens.
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Post#34 » by loveshaq786 » Mon Dec 13, 2021 8:58 pm

AD to his home town Chicago

Zo, Caruso, DeRozan, vucevic ....for Baze, DeAndre, Westbrook, AD
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Post#35 » by loveshaq786 » Mon Dec 13, 2021 9:00 pm

AD, DeAndre and baze.. for vucevic, Zach and Caruso
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Post#36 » by loveshaq786 » Mon Dec 13, 2021 9:31 pm

Let's list best possible and realistic destinations for Westbrook
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Post#37 » by Pythagoras » Mon Dec 13, 2021 10:55 pm

loveshaq786 wrote:Let's list best possible and realistic destinations for Westbrook


I think he’ll be more attractive as an expiring, which won’t be till next year. But then the problem is you’re looking at taking bad money coming back to move him. The best scenario is to just wait him out IMO.
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Post#38 » by Pythagoras » Tue Dec 14, 2021 1:05 am

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Post#39 » by zuju » Tue Dec 14, 2021 2:46 am

Hawks may be a potential trade partner with so many wings on their rosters.

Just what we need to give up and the follow up signing after trading for a bigger wing

Josh Jackson is another wing I would look to trade for with minimal trade asset too. Has dog in him, long enough to guard big wings. So so 3-pt shot but would drain it in open looks. Maybe able to give us what Kuz gave us at the very least.
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Post#40 » by ROballer » Tue Dec 14, 2021 6:06 am

THT can't be traded until January 15th apparently. Bird rights stuff.

So we can let this thread die for a month, we're not getting anything back in return without including THT in the deal.
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