Shams: Nets have renewed optimism that Kyrie will play

[RoyceDa59]

So what are the actual consequences if he just shows up and plays a home game? Is he fined? Building owner fined? Nets fined?

[GTR11]

Nah … he’s coming back. He had his time off which is what he needed. He also made his statement. There is no other team he would want to be traded to and he wants to play again. He made that known earlier. With the possibility of actually being traded Durant had a heart to heart talk with him and he has made his decision to play. That’s my gut feeling and I’am calling it now. Let’s Goooooooooo!

Banking on Kyrie? C'mon son

[HardenGoat]

Nah … he’s coming back. He had his time off which is what he needed. He also made his statement. There is no other team he would want to be traded to and he wants to play again. He made that known earlier. With the possibility of actually being traded Durant had a heart to heart talk with him and he has made his decision to play. That’s my gut feeling and I’am calling it now. Let’s Goooooooooo!

Banking on Kyrie? C'mon son

He made a few things clear which lead me to this conclusion. He was against the mandate not against getting vaccinated. He does not want to be traded and this is the team his brothers are on. He said he wants to play again this year as evidenced by not wanting to retire. It’s clear that he is not antivax and what he did was make an anti mandate statement. I conclude he will get the vaccine and play, he said he would, it just wasn’t happening at the seasons start. Dude is going to play and help us get that chip. The people he will upset are antivaxers and people not wanting us to win it all. Even anti mandate people will accept it but honestly they should be happy he made the statement in the first place. Can’t fault someone for giving up millions for that but also needing to pursue his basketball goals and help his team reach theirs.

[LOUiS-D]

So what are the actual consequences if he just shows up and plays a home game? Is he fined? Building owner fined? Nets fined?

Tucker Carlson gives him an open mouth kiss.

[Pablo Escobar]

The other vaccines don't use animal material so why would the plant based vaccine all of a sudden be the one he will take? It's better to cut your losses with this headache and move on. Why do the nets have to bend over backwards to meet his demands? Be a professional, get vaccinated and join your "brothers" on the court to win a title.

What "Demands"?

Kyrie has 0 demands that I am aware of. he made a personal health decision. he was willing to play every game the state and league allowed him to. when the nets said no, we didnt hear 1 peep about pushback or animosity and he even came out and said he has no ill will towards the team.

"Bend over backwards"?

In what way? allowing him to play the games he is eligible to play in. not much bend there. Its not like he is demanding money or playing time or more shots. its not like the nets need to sacrafice anything to let him play. they just need to step out of the way and he is back in the lineup.

Kyrie didnt start the pandemic, he is a victim of its constraints like all of us. For those untrusting over governments, and the large corporations that manufactor food and drugs, it can be put in a tough position. He has said and done all the right things for someone who chooses not to be vaccinated.

So the plant based vaccine will be greenlit by the fda which is the government. So what's the difference between that and moderna/pfizer? You can't have a part time player in the rotation, he isn't doing this for a noble cause. He's a conspiracy nutcase who spends too much time on reddit/youtube. You know what would allow him to play all games? getting the vaccine, which he might do if it's plant based which is a bunch of bs. So he'd miss a large part of the season and get the vaccine anyway, so what was the point of this entire thing?.. better off trading him for someone that actually cares about basketball.

[MrDollarBills]

So what are the actual consequences if he just shows up and plays a home game? Is he fined? Building owner fined? Nets fined?

He could be arrested.

[GTR11]

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[GTR11]

Nah … he’s coming back. He had his time off which is what he needed. He also made his statement. There is no other team he would want to be traded to and he wants to play again. He made that known earlier. With the possibility of actually being traded Durant had a heart to heart talk with him and he has made his decision to play. That’s my gut feeling and I’am calling it now. Let’s Goooooooooo!

Banking on Kyrie? C'mon son

He made a few things clear which lead me to this conclusion. He was against the mandate not against getting vaccinated. He does not want to be traded and this is the team his brothers are on. He said he wants to play again this year as evidenced by not wanting to retire. It’s clear that he is not antivax and what he did was make an anti mandate statement. I conclude he will get the vaccine and play, he said he would, it just wasn’t happening at the seasons start. Dude is going to play and help us get that chip. The people he will upset are antivaxers and people not wanting us to win it all. Even anti mandate people will accept it but honestly they should be happy he made the statement in the first place. Can’t fault someone for giving up millions for that but also needing to pursue his basketball goals and help his team reach theirs.

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I know for fact he's been poster child for MAGA. Whether you agree or not he is AA face for antivax. Meanwhile these Healthcare workers overwhelmed and struggling.

I'm going to repeat myself last time with this antivax stuff. DNR/DNI all them and send home. Wasting beds for those who really need it.

[ecuhus1981]

.. better off trading him for someone that actually cares about basketball.

I've referenced this before, here we go again...



Yeah, if we could swap like for like talent minus the eccentricities, let's do it. But face it (cue Pitino voice): Dame ain't walkin' thru that door. You can even go two tiers down in terms of star talent, and guys like De'Aaron Fox aren't walking through that door, either. The types of guys who teams will give for HWSNBN (when he suits up, I'll use his government name), aren't much better than Mills, maybe not even better than buyout candidates. Believe me, I've turned over every stone with trade proposals, his trade value is nowhere near his on-court impact. We're best off waiting for the prodigal son to return.

[MrDollarBills]

Banking on Kyrie? C'mon son

He made a few things clear which lead me to this conclusion. He was against the mandate not against getting vaccinated. He does not want to be traded and this is the team his brothers are on. He said he wants to play again this year as evidenced by not wanting to retire. It’s clear that he is not antivax and what he did was make an anti mandate statement. I conclude he will get the vaccine and play, he said he would, it just wasn’t happening at the seasons start. Dude is going to play and help us get that chip. The people he will upset are antivaxers and people not wanting us to win it all. Even anti mandate people will accept it but honestly they should be happy he made the statement in the first place. Can’t fault someone for giving up millions for that but also needing to pursue his basketball goals and help his team reach theirs.

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I know for fact he's been poster child for MAGA. Whether you agree or not he is AA face for antivax. Meanwhile these Healthcare workers overwhelmed and struggling.

I'm going to repeat myself last time with this antivax stuff. DNR/DNI all them and send home. Wasting beds for those who really need it.

I agree. Unless you are immunocompromised, there should be zero tolerance. Our healthcare workers are the ones who are suffering the most when people do not get vaccinated and fill up ICUs. I'm so glad my sister got out of working at a general hospital and now works in specialized care.

[MrDollarBills]

I didn't realize that Milsap caught Covid. We could be in some serious trouble here because Milsap played against the bulls, whose whole team is now shut down because there's an outbreak.

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I agree with Windrem here. You can't look at whats happening with the Bulls and think that Kyrie being unvaccinated will be allowed in. He has to get the shot.

[Hello Brooklyn]

Kyrie now putting up posts on IG with his sneakers.

I think he is getting ready to play in road games at least.

I don't care. We need him. Get my man back on the team!

[Prokorov]

No story tbh , if anything it’s a leak to raise Kyries trade value

Imagine , we playing tough CF series against Miami or Bucks , we loose road game with Kyrie on the floor and then what ? We come back to Brk and planning for game 5 ( series tied 2-2) without Kyrie ? LOL
Thats not how organized sports teams work , I don’t believe it in this scenario

if we lose with kyrie on the floor we have no chance without him on the floor and would have lost the series anyway

[Prokorov]

Color me skeptical on this one. It goes against everything sacred in team sports if you allow a guy to come in and play and miss games as he chooses.

its not his choosing. its mandated by the state. its not like Kyrie came out and was like, "yo i dont feel playing in barclays anymore"

the team would be allowing him to play in eligible games. this is also a pandemic "everything that is sacred in sports" doesnt really apply

4 nets are in covid protocol and cant play tonight. should we ban them from all future games too?

If the team don't mind him playing away games only, I'd play him as a microwave scorer off the bench. It'd a slap in the face to the team and it's morale to treat him as anything more than that.

how so? Shams said the team and coaches want him back. its a slap in the face to teammates to let him play when they want him back? the team wants to win. they know kyrie is a top player. they also love him cause he is an elite teammate. i cant imagine any animosity because of his role

[Prokorov]

I’m not getting my hopes up either.

Also, if he plays, let it be all games. Please not this road games only BS.

I can handle road games only if its short term as he waits for some imminent plant vaccine or expected mandate changes.

Also, "only road games" sounds lame now... but when your down 2-0 in the playoffs headed to the other teams building, it all of a sudden doesnt sound so bad.

I highly doubt “only road games” happens. I mean, if the Nets were OK with that, he’d be playing road games from the start of the season. But Nets didn’t allow it. And what’s changed since then? Nothing.

whats changed is they tried to see if strong arming him would get himt o change his mind and it didnt work.

whats changed is harden isnt quite the same yet

[Prokorov]

No story tbh , if anything it’s a leak to raise Kyries trade value

Imagine , we playing tough CF series against Miami or Bucks , we loose road game with Kyrie on the floor and then what ? We come back to Brk and planning for game 5 ( series tied 2-2) without Kyrie ? LOL
Thats not how organized sports teams work , I don’t believe it in this scenario

TBH, the trade value was the first optic I thought of when this "rumor" came out .. probably just trying to drive up the value

it doesnt change his value though. a team trading for him either didnt care about his vax status or would want him vaccinated pre-trade.

[Prokorov]

So what are the actual consequences if he just shows up and plays a home game? Is he fined? Building owner fined? Nets fined?

i dont think thats something you mess around with

[Prokorov]

The other vaccines don't use animal material so why would the plant based vaccine all of a sudden be the one he will take? It's better to cut your losses with this headache and move on. Why do the nets have to bend over backwards to meet his demands? Be a professional, get vaccinated and join your "brothers" on the court to win a title.

What "Demands"?

Kyrie has 0 demands that I am aware of. he made a personal health decision. he was willing to play every game the state and league allowed him to. when the nets said no, we didnt hear 1 peep about pushback or animosity and he even came out and said he has no ill will towards the team.

"Bend over backwards"?

In what way? allowing him to play the games he is eligible to play in. not much bend there. Its not like he is demanding money or playing time or more shots. its not like the nets need to sacrafice anything to let him play. they just need to step out of the way and he is back in the lineup.

Kyrie didnt start the pandemic, he is a victim of its constraints like all of us. For those untrusting over governments, and the large corporations that manufactor food and drugs, it can be put in a tough position. He has said and done all the right things for someone who chooses not to be vaccinated.

So the plant based vaccine will be greenlit by the fda which is the government. So what's the difference between that and moderna/pfizer? You can't have a part time player in the rotation, he isn't doing this for a noble cause. He's a conspiracy nutcase who spends too much time on reddit/youtube. You know what would allow him to play all games? getting the vaccine, which he might do if it's plant based which is a bunch of bs. So he'd miss a large part of the season and get the vaccine anyway, so what was the point of this entire thing?.. better off trading him for someone that actually cares about basketball.

i dont know what the differences are. im not a vegan and beyond trying to buy fresh and organic i dont vet much what i eat. But obviously, there are differences, or the plant based vaccine wouldn't exsist. if there was no concern/demand, there would be no reason to develop it. Also id assume that for those who care about it... plant based from a reputable source that cares about things being organic and plant based has more credibility then billion dollar drug company that has been fined dozens of times for lying saying "yea theres no animal products.

there is nothing "BS" about playing part time other then NYs weird mandate that allows out of state unvaxxed to play but not in state unvaxxed. Kyrie is following the rules and restrictions of a mandate because a once in a century pandemic has struck.

saying he doesnt care about basketball is nonsense.

[Prokorov]

I didn't realize that Milsap caught Covid. We could be in some serious trouble here because Milsap played against the bulls, whose whole team is now shut down because there's an outbreak.

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I agree with Windrem here. You can't look at whats happening with the Bulls and think that Kyrie being unvaccinated will be allowed in. He has to get the shot.

Yeah, it makes no sense opposing players can be unvaxxed and play. the mandate spits in the face of real safety in that regard. i think they wont fix it though, because other then sports that situation doesnt apply much and its hard to police.

I think the nets would let him play road games unvaxxed. the risk is still super low. i mean, the ENTIRE LEAGUE played unvaxxed for a prolonged period.

[HardenGoat]

He made a few things clear which lead me to this conclusion. He was against the mandate not against getting vaccinated. He does not want to be traded and this is the team his brothers are on. He said he wants to play again this year as evidenced by not wanting to retire. It’s clear that he is not antivax and what he did was make an anti mandate statement. I conclude he will get the vaccine and play, he said he would, it just wasn’t happening at the seasons start. Dude is going to play and help us get that chip. The people he will upset are antivaxers and people not wanting us to win it all. Even anti mandate people will accept it but honestly they should be happy he made the statement in the first place. Can’t fault someone for giving up millions for that but also needing to pursue his basketball goals and help his team reach theirs.

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I know for fact he's been poster child for MAGA. Whether you agree or not he is AA face for antivax. Meanwhile these Healthcare workers overwhelmed and struggling.

I'm going to repeat myself last time with this antivax stuff. DNR/DNI all them and send home. Wasting beds for those who really need it.

I agree. Unless you are immunocompromised, there should be zero tolerance. Our healthcare workers are the ones who are suffering the most when people do not get vaccinated and fill up ICUs. I'm so glad my sister got out of working at a general hospital and now works in specialized care.

My post is not suggesting I agree with what Kyrie did in the least. I meant the people supporting him being anti-mandate should not be upset he gets vaccinated, most of them are already vaccinated. There are ways to oppose legislation and be a voice against a vaccine mandate and still protect yourself and others by getting the vaccine. In his case he was against getting the vaccine for his own reasons, most likely just fear based. Then he wanted to make a statement against the mandate. But now he is going to do it to pursue his basketball career and help Durant. There is overlap with the anti-vaxers and anti-mandate groups. All anti-vaxers are anti-mandate but not vice versa. Kyrie is going to get the vax. The anti-vax group loves to muddy the waters, of course they are going to pin famous people as supporters. Kyrie has never made any statement supporting that and the only evidence we have was a purported "like" of the vaccination chip theory, or the "like" of alien oppression. This is not equal to someone leading an anti-vax group.