Kings Shopping Marvin Bagley, Buddy Hield Package In Trade Talks

[RealGM Wiretap]

Despite their poor record this season, the Sacramento Kings are looking to add to their roster for a postseason push. Sacramento has been linked to several players, including Ben Simmons, Domantas Sabonis and Myles Turner on the trade market.

As of now, there are no indications the Kings have held serious discussions with the Pacers on Sabonis or Turner, but that could change at any time. As for Simmons, Sacramento is one of several teams linked to the Philadelphia 76ers absentee star.

The package Kings GM Monte McNair seems to be shopping most in talks is Marvin Bagley and Buddy Hield. Bagley has mostly been out of the rotation for Sacramento this season. His agent requested a trade when the Kings informed Bagley that he was a part of their plans any longer.

Hield has been a rotation mainstay, but is part of a deep guard group. Sacramento has started De'Aaron Fox and Tyese Haliburton all season, and also has promising rookie Davion Mitchell coming off the bench. Because of size and defensive issues, it's hard for the Kings to work Hield into three-guard lineups, thus the trade speculation.

Via Jason Anderson/The Sacramento Bee

[the_process]

Tobias Harris for both of them.

Or Tobias and Curry for Barnes and Hield. Sacto can dump Bagley in that as well if they like.

[The Hypnotoad]

Tobias Harris for both of them.

Or Tobias and Curry for Barnes and Hield. Sacto can dump Bagley in that as well if they like.

I’d use this to get rid of Simmons at this point. Not sure why 76ers are still beating around the bush. Another good 3 pt shooter around Embid and more depth. Just do it already. Sacramento then had someone to add to their defense, and if Ben complains then Sacramento has a longer window to trade him than 76ers do because of wasting Embids prime.

[the_process]

Tobias Harris for both of them.

Or Tobias and Curry for Barnes and Hield. Sacto can dump Bagley in that as well if they like.

I’d use this to get rid of Simmons at this point. Not sure why 76ers are still beating around the bush. Another good 3 pt shooter around Embid and more depth. Just do it already. Sacramento then had someone to add to their defense, and if Ben complains then Sacramento has a longer window to trade him than 76ers do because of wasting Embids prime.

Hield and Bagley do not get Simmons. Sorry.

Does Sacto want to talk about Fox or Haliburton? Then, and only then, could Simmons be available to them.

[Backcountry]

Tobias Harris for both of them.

Or Tobias and Curry for Barnes and Hield. Sacto can dump Bagley in that as well if they like.

I’d use this to get rid of Simmons at this point. Not sure why 76ers are still beating around the bush. Another good 3 pt shooter around Embid and more depth. Just do it already. Sacramento then had someone to add to their defense, and if Ben complains then Sacramento has a longer window to trade him than 76ers do because of wasting Embids prime.

If Morey has any sense, he'd make this move now to get something for Simmons this season. Former #2 and #6 overall picks for a former #1. Bagley has a lot of potential and is being wasted in Sac. He could learn a lot from Embiid. Hield, as you mentioned, can shoot and spread the floor. If I was Sac, I wouldn't include any draft picks as theirs will always be good ones and they need them! (and a better management team, but that's another issue). Embiid isn't getting any younger and he needs to win. Their best shot so far was 2019 when Kawhi beat them at the buzzer. They need to do something to get over the hump.

[the_process]

Tobias Harris for both of them.

Or Tobias and Curry for Barnes and Hield. Sacto can dump Bagley in that as well if they like.

I’d use this to get rid of Simmons at this point. Not sure why 76ers are still beating around the bush. Another good 3 pt shooter around Embid and more depth. Just do it already. Sacramento then had someone to add to their defense, and if Ben complains then Sacramento has a longer window to trade him than 76ers do because of wasting Embids prime.

If Morey has any sense, he'd make this move now to get something for Simmons this season. Former #2 and #6 overall picks for a former #1. Bagley has a lot of potential and is being wasted in Sac. He could learn a lot from Embiid. Hield, as you mentioned, can shoot and spread the floor. If I was Sac, I wouldn't include any draft picks as theirs will always be good ones and they need them! (and a better management team, but that's another issue). Embiid isn't getting any younger and he needs to win. Their best shot so far was 2019 when Kawhi beat them at the buzzer. They need to do something to get over the hump.

Doing that trade makes them worse. And the Sixers aren't winning anything anyway this year.

You people really need to lose the mindset "just do something to do something".

The Sixers only "need" to make a deal that makes them better than having Ben Simmons.

[Backcountry]

I’d use this to get rid of Simmons at this point. Not sure why 76ers are still beating around the bush. Another good 3 pt shooter around Embid and more depth. Just do it already. Sacramento then had someone to add to their defense, and if Ben complains then Sacramento has a longer window to trade him than 76ers do because of wasting Embids prime.

If Morey has any sense, he'd make this move now to get something for Simmons this season. Former #2 and #6 overall picks for a former #1. Bagley has a lot of potential and is being wasted in Sac. He could learn a lot from Embiid. Hield, as you mentioned, can shoot and spread the floor. If I was Sac, I wouldn't include any draft picks as theirs will always be good ones and they need them! (and a better management team, but that's another issue). Embiid isn't getting any younger and he needs to win. Their best shot so far was 2019 when Kawhi beat them at the buzzer. They need to do something to get over the hump.

Doing that trade makes them worse. And the Sixers aren't winning anything anyway this year.

You people really need to lose the mindset "just do something to do something".

The Sixers only "need" to make a deal that makes them better than having Ben Simmons.

Right now any deal makes them better than "having" Ben Simmons. Morey is shopping him around like he is trying to sell a Ferrari for full value, when in reality it's missing the engine...

[the_process]

If Morey has any sense, he'd make this move now to get something for Simmons this season. Former #2 and #6 overall picks for a former #1. Bagley has a lot of potential and is being wasted in Sac. He could learn a lot from Embiid. Hield, as you mentioned, can shoot and spread the floor. If I was Sac, I wouldn't include any draft picks as theirs will always be good ones and they need them! (and a better management team, but that's another issue). Embiid isn't getting any younger and he needs to win. Their best shot so far was 2019 when Kawhi beat them at the buzzer. They need to do something to get over the hump.

Doing that trade makes them worse. And the Sixers aren't winning anything anyway this year.

You people really need to lose the mindset "just do something to do something".

The Sixers only "need" to make a deal that makes them better than having Ben Simmons.

Right now any deal makes them better than "having" Ben Simmons. Morey is shopping him around like he is trying to sell a Ferrari for full value, when in reality it's missing the engine...

Again, you're wrong. Taking garbage in return is absolutely worse than just keeping Simmons. So you make a real offer, or just move along.

[Backcountry]

Doing that trade makes them worse. And the Sixers aren't winning anything anyway this year.

You people really need to lose the mindset "just do something to do something".

The Sixers only "need" to make a deal that makes them better than having Ben Simmons.

Right now any deal makes them better than "having" Ben Simmons. Morey is shopping him around like he is trying to sell a Ferrari for full value, when in reality it's missing the engine...

Again, you're wrong. Taking garbage in return is absolutely worse than just keeping Simmons. So you make a real offer, or just move along.

Stay happy on the treadmill then, because that Ferrari is gathering rust sitting in the garage...value going down daily.

[the_process]

Right now any deal makes them better than "having" Ben Simmons. Morey is shopping him around like he is trying to sell a Ferrari for full value, when in reality it's missing the engine...

Again, you're wrong. Taking garbage in return is absolutely worse than just keeping Simmons. So you make a real offer, or just move along.

Stay happy on the treadmill then, because that Ferrari is gathering rust sitting in the garage...value going down daily.

Value is the same as it has been since that ****** game against ATL. And they are already on the treadmill, the goal is to get off. It's like I'm talking to myself here...

[Backcountry]

Again, you're wrong. Taking garbage in return is absolutely worse than just keeping Simmons. So you make a real offer, or just move along.

Stay happy on the treadmill then, because that Ferrari is gathering rust sitting in the garage...value going down daily.

Value is the same as it has been since that ****** game against ATL. And they are already on the treadmill, the goal is to get off. It's like I'm talking to myself here...

I think you are talking to yourself. You're talking like the used car salesman trying to convince himself that the customer will think his lemon is worth more than it is. The rest of us are talking like the customer.

[the_process]

Stay happy on the treadmill then, because that Ferrari is gathering rust sitting in the garage...value going down daily.

Value is the same as it has been since that ****** game against ATL. And they are already on the treadmill, the goal is to get off. It's like I'm talking to myself here...

I think you are talking to yourself. You're talking like the used car salesman trying to convince himself that the customer will think his lemon is worth more than it is. The rest of us are talking like the customer.

Again, you don't like the price... move on. Aren't selling the "Ferrari" for $5 no matter how much you claim that's all it's worth.

Hield and Bagley is a negative value package. And a little lesson for you, draft slots mean squat after you've played a full year in the league.

[luciano-davidwesley]

Value is the same as it has been since that ****** game against ATL. And they are already on the treadmill, the goal is to get off. It's like I'm talking to myself here...

I think you are talking to yourself. You're talking like the used car salesman trying to convince himself that the customer will think his lemon is worth more than it is. The rest of us are talking like the customer.

Again, you don't like the price... move on. Aren't selling the "Ferrari" for $5 no matter how much you claim that's all it's worth.

Hield and Bagley is a negative value package. And a little lesson for you, draft slots mean squat after you've played a full year in the league.

The only problem is Simmons on his bloated contract and with his issues is definitely negative value too.

[madmaxmedia]

Even if Simmons is a Ferrari with a wheel boot attached (or whatever analogy you want to use), the issue with trading him for anything drivable is that every team has limited garage space (cap space, get it!) So yeah, 2 competent contributing players would technically help the Sixers more than Simmons does right now, but they still need to find the best deal possible (whatever that is.)

[the_process]

I think you are talking to yourself. You're talking like the used car salesman trying to convince himself that the customer will think his lemon is worth more than it is. The rest of us are talking like the customer.

Again, you don't like the price... move on. Aren't selling the "Ferrari" for $5 no matter how much you claim that's all it's worth.

Hield and Bagley is a negative value package. And a little lesson for you, draft slots mean squat after you've played a full year in the league.

The only problem is Simmons on his bloated contract and with his issues is definitely negative value too.

Not even close.

[Pickled Prunes]

Value is the same as it has been since that ****** game against ATL. And they are already on the treadmill, the goal is to get off. It's like I'm talking to myself here...

I think you are talking to yourself. You're talking like the used car salesman trying to convince himself that the customer will think his lemon is worth more than it is. The rest of us are talking like the customer.

Again, you don't like the price... move on. Aren't selling the "Ferrari" for $5 no matter how much you claim that's all it's worth.

Hield and Bagley is a negative value package. And a little lesson for you, draft slots mean squat after you've played a full year in the league.

I agree with you... Hield and Bagley aren't enough. But I don't think we actually know what they are (particularly Bagley who's only played under Walton) because that organization is broken. Both of those guys are almost certainly better in a different situation.

That said, you guys need to stop arguing. You're both right:
The asking price for Simmons is clearly too high. 29 teams have been passing on Simmons for months now.
In the end PHI will definitely get more than Hield and Bagley. Not what they hope for, but more than this.

[Pickled Prunes]

Again, you don't like the price... move on. Aren't selling the "Ferrari" for $5 no matter how much you claim that's all it's worth.

Hield and Bagley is a negative value package. And a little lesson for you, draft slots mean squat after you've played a full year in the league.

The only problem is Simmons on his bloated contract and with his issues is definitely negative value too.

Not even close.

If Embiid, Doc and the 76ers organization believed that, they wouldn't be in this mess. All 30 teams seem to agree that having Simmons on a max deal for the next 4 years might not be the best idea. That doesn't mean that his contract is terrible; but 4 years and $147M is a big commitment for a maybe.

[the_process]

If you do not like the price, fine. Move along. But don't try to tell me the car is worthless. It has lots of risk, sure, but it is also a highly decorated car with a lot of desirable attributes. If there was no risk involved, it wouldn't be available in the first place.

[shrink]

I’d use this to get rid of Simmons at this point. Not sure why 76ers are still beating around the bush. Another good 3 pt shooter around Embid and more depth. Just do it already. Sacramento then had someone to add to their defense, and if Ben complains then Sacramento has a longer window to trade him than 76ers do because of wasting Embids prime.

If Morey has any sense, he'd make this move now to get something for Simmons this season. Former #2 and #6 overall picks for a former #1. Bagley has a lot of potential and is being wasted in Sac. He could learn a lot from Embiid. Hield, as you mentioned, can shoot and spread the floor. If I was Sac, I wouldn't include any draft picks as theirs will always be good ones and they need them! (and a better management team, but that's another issue). Embiid isn't getting any younger and he needs to win. Their best shot so far was 2019 when Kawhi beat them at the buzzer. They need to do something to get over the hump.

Doing that trade makes them worse. And the Sixers aren't winning anything anyway this year.

You people really need to lose the mindset "just do something to do something".

The Sixers only "need" to make a deal that makes them better than having Ben Simmons.

This isn’t better than “Zero production for $32 million dollars of wasted payroll?”

That’s what “having Ben Simmons” is for Philadelphia.

[the_process]

If Morey has any sense, he'd make this move now to get something for Simmons this season. Former #2 and #6 overall picks for a former #1. Bagley has a lot of potential and is being wasted in Sac. He could learn a lot from Embiid. Hield, as you mentioned, can shoot and spread the floor. If I was Sac, I wouldn't include any draft picks as theirs will always be good ones and they need them! (and a better management team, but that's another issue). Embiid isn't getting any younger and he needs to win. Their best shot so far was 2019 when Kawhi beat them at the buzzer. They need to do something to get over the hump.

Doing that trade makes them worse. And the Sixers aren't winning anything anyway this year.

You people really need to lose the mindset "just do something to do something".

The Sixers only "need" to make a deal that makes them better than having Ben Simmons.

This isn’t better than “Zero production for $32 million dollars of wasted payroll?”

That’s what “having Ben Simmons” is for Philadelphia.

No, it is not. And it's not close. Of all people, you know better.