Thoughts in General, Rumors, etc 4.0

Post #1661 » by **Slava** » Tue Dec 14, 2021 8:42 pm

shangrila wrote:Can we not turn this into a COVID debate please?

I get enough uninformed opinions spewed at me in general life without having to stomach that crap on a basketball forum.

I'd usually not bother derailing discussion but if I could tip one person over the fence by convincing them with data, I consider it worth it.

Post #1662 » by **HartfordWhalers** » Tue Dec 14, 2021 8:48 pm

My prediction is we see 0 trades tomorrow.

eminence · Post #1663 » by **eminence** » Tue Dec 14, 2021 8:49 pm

HartfordWhalers wrote:My prediction is we see 0 trades tomorrow.

Boring, I want 50.

Post #1664 » by **HartfordWhalers** » Tue Dec 14, 2021 8:54 pm

eminence wrote:
HartfordWhalers wrote:My prediction is we see 0 trades tomorrow.

Boring, I want 50.

50 with 0 Ben Simmons trades would be pretty hilarious.

Post #1665 » by **Texas Chuck** » Tue Dec 14, 2021 9:05 pm

I thought I heard on The Lowe Post that the last player traded on 12/15 was Terrence Williams. And I believe the claim was made he returned 2 first round picks. So yeah its been a minute.

Kilo · Post #1666 » by **Kilo** » Tue Dec 14, 2021 9:05 pm

I think Detroit has to make a move for a center with only Isaiah Stewart, Trey Lyles and Luka Garza their healthy "bigs" with Grant and Olynyk down for multiple weeks still.

Josh Jackson as an expiring for a multi years remaining Ce/PF or Jackson and SRP for expiring $5M center could happen.

Detroit could take a flyer on Bagley depending on the cost as well. Linked to him in the past but didn't have the moveable contracts until tomorrow.

Colbinii · Post #1667 » by **Colbinii** » Tue Dec 14, 2021 9:07 pm

HartfordWhalers wrote:My prediction is we see 0 trades tomorrow.

I'd like you to keep the truth out of here.

Post #1668 » by **MoneyTalks41890** » Tue Dec 14, 2021 9:11 pm

I'd like to see OKC flip Favors for a worse deal.

K_chile22 · Post #1669 » by **K_chile22** » Tue Dec 14, 2021 9:24 pm

Texas Chuck wrote:I thought I heard on The Lowe Post that the last player traded on 12/15 was Terrence Williams. And I believe the claim was made he returned 2 first round picks. So yeah its been a minute.

That's "Rockets Legend: Terrence Williams" to you

blind prophet · Post #1670 » by **blind prophet** » Wed Dec 15, 2021 1:39 am

Kings Shopping Marvin Bagley, Buddy Hield Package In Trade Talks

Oh my take our net negatives....and give us something.

Well not quite Jarl Thompandry...but I'll keep my expectations extremely low.

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/265033/Kings-Shopping-Marvin-Bagley-Buddy-Hield-Package-In-Trade-Talks

Richard4444 · Post #1671 » by **Richard4444** » Wed Dec 15, 2021 2:00 am

HartfordWhalers wrote:My prediction is we see 0 trades tomorrow.

Probably, we will see some scrubs being traded for tax relief purposes...

shangrila · Post #1672 » by **shangrila** » Wed Dec 15, 2021 2:50 am

Richard4444 wrote:
HartfordWhalers wrote:My prediction is we see 0 trades tomorrow.

Probably, we will see some scrubs being traded for tax relief purposes...

More of a deadline thing, that.

Less money remaining on the contract for the receiving team, sending team gets to see if there's anything they might need the contract for.

Richard4444 · Post #1673 » by **Richard4444** » Wed Dec 15, 2021 2:54 am

shangrila wrote:
Richard4444 wrote:
HartfordWhalers wrote:My prediction is we see 0 trades tomorrow.

Probably, we will see some scrubs being traded for tax relief purposes...

More of a deadline thing, that.

Less money remaining on the contract for the receiving team, sending team gets to see if there's anything they might need the contract for.

Yes, you are right. I am trying to delude myself... We will see nothing happening this week...

eminence · Post #1674 » by **eminence** » Wed Dec 15, 2021 3:11 am

Trying to find Buddy teams. Kelly O+filler from the Pistons? Nuggets with Barton+? Wolves upgrading Beasley? Hart from the Pelicans? Is saving salary/years enough for the Kings? How much do other teams value Buddy?

psman2 · Post #1675 » by **psman2** » Wed Dec 15, 2021 3:17 am

K_chile22 wrote:
Texas Chuck wrote:I thought I heard on The Lowe Post that the last player traded on 12/15 was Terrence Williams. And I believe the claim was made he returned 2 first round picks. So yeah its been a minute.

That's "Rockets Legend: Terrence Williams" to you

Morey's old worst trade....until the WB/CP3 fiasco.

shangrila · Post #1676 » by **shangrila** » Wed Dec 15, 2021 3:18 am

eminence wrote:Trying to find Buddy teams. Kelly O+filler from the Pistons? Nuggets with Barton+? Wolves upgrading Beasley? Hart from the Pelicans? Is saving salary/years enough for the Kings? How much do other teams value Buddy?

The Beasley upgrade angle is interesting to me, but I have to imagine they can do better as I wouldn't do much more than Beasley+expiring for Hield.

Post #1677 » by **zimpy27** » Wed Dec 15, 2021 3:20 am

blind prophet wrote:Kings Shopping Marvin Bagley, Buddy Hield Package In Trade Talks

Oh my take our net negatives....and give us something.

Well not quite Jarl Thompandry...but I'll keep my expectations extremely low.

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/265033/Kings-Shopping-Marvin-Bagley-Buddy-Hield-Package-In-Trade-Talks

Maybe Sac are shopping Hield+Bagley+FRPs for player(s) to give 76ers in exchange for Simmons.

It kind of make sense based on them wanting to play a 3-guard lineup.

Fox, Hali, Simmons, Barnes, Holmes -- Davion, TD2, Harkless, Len

I think they are probably thinking they want to go all in on a team like this for nextfew years

Post #1678 » by **bondom34** » Wed Dec 15, 2021 3:29 am

It's incredibly boring but I still wouldn't mind swapping Bazley for Bagley in some fashion. Both guys get a change of scenery.

sfballa13 · Post #1679 » by **sfballa13** » Wed Dec 15, 2021 4:01 am

eminence wrote:Trying to find Buddy teams. Kelly O+filler from the Pistons? Nuggets with Barton+? Wolves upgrading Beasley? Hart from the Pelicans? Is saving salary/years enough for the Kings? How much do other teams value Buddy?

Jerami Grant + Kelly O for Hield + Bagley works but dont know if the Kings would take this deal

1 less year than Hield but an extra two years at 11-12M for KO

eminence · Post #1680 » by **eminence** » Wed Dec 15, 2021 4:07 am

sfballa13 wrote:
eminence wrote:Trying to find Buddy teams. Kelly O+filler from the Pistons? Nuggets with Barton+? Wolves upgrading Beasley? Hart from the Pelicans? Is saving salary/years enough for the Kings? How much do other teams value Buddy?

Jerami Grant + Kelly O for Hield + Bagley works but dont know if the Kings would take this deal

1 less year than Hield but an extra two years at 11-12M for KO

Nah, that's terrible for the Pistons. Grant has actual value.