Miami Heat Regular Season Thread 21-22 Vol. 1

[3ballbomber]

I’m not trading him because of a slump, im trading him because Strus can replace his output and he’s the only real tradeable salary we have to trade if there’s a chance to improve.

So a top 5 shooter in the league had a rough patch & a D-leager is surprising by surpassing expectations...so we simply trade the top 5 shooter because the bench guy is now deemed to have the ability to fill his shoes!?

I get your point that we shouldn't rush into hasty trades but that so called "top 5 shooter" was a G-leaguer himself just 2 years ago.

And the "g-leaguer" is showing he does have some advantages in the non-shooting skills. Not to mention the salary gap.

What happens when Strus has a bad stretch...we turn on him & trade him too?

Wake me up when Strus becomes top 5 in anything as a starter & demands as much attention from opposing defences.

In the mean time i'll leave this here....

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[3ballbomber]

Some realism...if spo is coaching their team...neither Jimmy Herro or bam are going to be a champions. NOT because spo sucks (I happen to think spo a great coach, maybe in the top 100 ever)...its because he is too slow to adjust and BAM and HERRO are the kind of NOW players... although Jimmy is the best among them he is too old
In conclusion, I can now start To see why Trading away the three of them or firing spo it's a huge possibility...other wise we are going to have a great time almost getting there, this is 1 year from becoming similar to any Portland Trail Blazer team

[oreon]

Some realism...if spo is coaching their team...neither Jimmy Herro or bam are going to be a champions. NOT because spo sucks (I happen to think spo a great coach, maybe in the top 100 ever)...its because he is too slow to adjust and BAM and HERRO are the kind of NOW players... although Jimmy is the best among them he is too old
In conclusion, I can now start To see why Trading away the three of them or firing spo it's a huge possibility...other wise we are going to have a great time almost getting there, this is 1 year from becoming similar to any Portland Trail Blazer team

Really ? Spo is holding Bam and Jimmy from a ring. Just be objective and seriously evaluate the talent.
Lets look at the last couple of champions
Bucks - had Giannis a top 5 player
Lakers- Had Bron a top 5 player and AD that season played like a borderline top 5 player
Raps- Injuries to GSW and had Kawhi a top 5 player
GSW - Durant & Curry
Cavs - Lebron
Spurs - the one year without a current top 5 player cuz everyone outside Bron was done and literally everyone

See a trend here. Without a top 5 player its hard to win a ring especially in todays era where some teams have multiple top 15 players. So its highely unlikely we will win with this roster and it has nothing to do with Spo. As good as Butler is, he's not Giannis or Durant or Curry or Bron from a couple years ago. This core of Butler and Lowry and Bam is a gamble. Chances they won't win. And if they do it will be because Spo made the right adjustments like he did in the bubble run AND not inspite of Spo.

[al bondiga]

I think I didn't explain my opinion clear enough... spo + any combination that includes bam Herro or Jimmy I am almost sure won't win it all ( sorry to sound so negative most here... it's just realism)

but we will have a great time trying

Amendment... if we get a kobe or LeBron type player through the draft we will champion again during this era

[carnageta]

Was waiting for the 'Spo is overrated and will never win a ring again' chants to start appearing. Only took 25 games.

[carnageta]

I think I didn't explain my opinion clear enough... spo + any combination that includes bam Herro or Jimmy I am almost sure won't win it all ( sorry to sound so negative most here... it's just realism)

but we will have a great time trying

Amendment... if we get a kobe or LeBron type player through the draft we will champion again during this era

Guy, we're playing without Jimmy and without Bam right now. We're destined to look much worse than we actually are at this current moment.


Amendment... if we get a kobe or LeBron type player through the draft we will champion again during this era

Yeah, if we land a top 15 player of all-time we'd be likely to win the championship. I think that's pretty common sense..

[Hallstar]

I think I didn't explain my opinion clear enough... spo + any combination that includes bam Herro or Jimmy I am almost sure won't win it all ( sorry to sound so negative most here... it's just realism)

but we will have a great time trying

Amendment... if we get a kobe or LeBron type player through the draft we will champion again during this era

Guy, we're playing without Jimmy and without Bam right now. We're destined to look much worse than we actually are at this current moment.


Amendment... if we get a kobe or LeBron type player through the draft we will champion again during this era

Yeah, if we land a top 15 player of all-time we'd be likely to win the championship. I think that's pretty common sense..

lol, that was a strange amendment. Herro is easily our best draft pick since Wade, that was a what... 15 year gap just to draft another 20ppg scorer? and we're talking about Kobe and Lebron.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

I think I didn't explain my opinion clear enough... spo + any combination that includes bam Herro or Jimmy I am almost sure won't win it all ( sorry to sound so negative most here... it's just realism)

but we will have a great time trying

Amendment... if we get a kobe or LeBron type player through the draft we will champion again during this era

Guy, we're playing without Jimmy and without Bam right now. We're destined to look much worse than we actually are at this current moment.


Amendment... if we get a kobe or LeBron type player through the draft we will champion again during this era

Yeah, if we land a top 15 player of all-time we'd be likely to win the championship. I think that's pretty common sense..

lol, that was a strange amendment. Herro is easily our best draft pick since Wade, that was a what... 15 year gap just to draft another 20ppg scorer? and we're talking about Kobe and Lebron.

Did the Bam pick not happen lol?

[3ammy3uck3ts]

I think I didn't explain my opinion clear enough... spo + any combination that includes bam Herro or Jimmy I am almost sure won't win it all ( sorry to sound so negative most here... it's just realism)

but we will have a great time trying

Amendment... if we get a kobe or LeBron type player through the draft we will champion again during this era

Or a Wade type, who won faster than both.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

So a top 5 shooter in the league had a rough patch & a D-leager is surprising by surpassing expectations...so we simply trade the top 5 shooter because the bench guy is now deemed to have the ability to fill his shoes!?

I get your point that we shouldn't rush into hasty trades but that so called "top 5 shooter" was a G-leaguer himself just 2 years ago.

And the "g-leaguer" is showing he does have some advantages in the non-shooting skills. Not to mention the salary gap.

What happens when Strus has a bad stretch...we turn on him & trade him too?

Wake me up when Strus becomes top 5 in anything as a starter & demands as much attention from opposing defences.

In the mean time i'll leave this here....

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Strus is a better player than Duncan, you should be happy that’s the case. Duncan is our only tradeable contract. If we want to upgrade he’s got to go. If not, that’s fine too.

[twix2500]

I get your point that we shouldn't rush into hasty trades but that so called "top 5 shooter" was a G-leaguer himself just 2 years ago.

And the "g-leaguer" is showing he does have some advantages in the non-shooting skills. Not to mention the salary gap.

What happens when Strus has a bad stretch...we turn on him & trade him too?

Wake me up when Strus becomes top 5 in anything as a starter & demands as much attention from opposing defences.

In the mean time i'll leave this here....

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Strus is a better player than Duncan, you should be happy that’s the case. Duncan is our only tradeable contract. If we want to upgrade he’s got to go. If not, that’s fine too.

He is not the only tradeable contract. Herro contract is a lot more tradeable. You can trade the entire roster, except maybe Dipo.

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[3ammy3uck3ts]

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No Jimmy? No Bam? Don’t worry, our savior is on his way.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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[RexBoyWonder]

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I think he's enough of a PF to be a good fit between Jimmy and Bam. He's not elite but he's a good 2 way big forward.

Just can't see what we can trade to get him, Pistons shouldn't want Duncan and we have no real sweetners to send out

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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I think he's enough of a PF to be a good fit between Jimmy and Bam. He's not elite but he's a good 2 way big forward.

Just can't see what we can trade to get him, Pistons shouldn't want Duncan and we have no real sweetners to send out

It would take at least 2 1sts with Duncan I’d say. He’s a perfect fit imo only if he’s knocking down the 3 at the level he did last season and his last 2 years in Denver. He was 40% on catch and shoot 3s his last 2 seasons in denver

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Duncan, KZ, Morris gives you $20M to trade. Add 2 1sts to that. Is that enough to land any of the following:

Turner
Grant
Barnes
Buddy

Are the Heat looking for this level of a player or something more? I guess we’ll find out.

[twix2500]

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I would assume that the Piston would not be trading him just to get another role player. Im sure they want draft picks.

Kings on the other hand I would assume are looking for another all star to pair with Fox. But the Kings are a stupid franchise no telling what they would actually want.

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[oreon]

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I think he's enough of a PF to be a good fit between Jimmy and Bam. He's not elite but he's a good 2 way big forward.

Just can't see what we can trade to get him, Pistons shouldn't want Duncan and we have no real sweetners to send out

It would have to be Duncan + our 1st in a 3 way deal where Duncan goes to a 3rd team that can offer Detroit another 1st. Duncan been shooting well lately if he can continue to shoot well over the 1st month I think he'll be a positive contract. I'm sure you can find a 3rd team to offer a late protected pick + filler contract for Duncan. With Grant out for 6 weeks an unprotected 1st and late protected 1st might be enough to get him. If not then you circle around to Sac for Barnes and Indy for Turner for the same deal

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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I would assume that the Piston would not be trading him just to get another role player. Im sure they want draft picks.

Kings on the other hand I would assume are looking for another all star to pair with Fox. But the Kings are a stupid franchise no telling what they would actually want.

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Rumblings about Fox not being with the Kings long term is what I’ve been seeing over the last year.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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I think he's enough of a PF to be a good fit between Jimmy and Bam. He's not elite but he's a good 2 way big forward.

Just can't see what we can trade to get him, Pistons shouldn't want Duncan and we have no real sweetners to send out

It would have to be Duncan + our 1st in a 3 way deal where Duncan goes to a 3rd team that can offer Detroit another 1st. Duncan been shooting well lately if he can continue to shoot well over the 1st month I think he'll be a positive contract. I'm sure you can find a 3rd team to offer a late protected pick + filler contract for Duncan. With Grant out for 6 weeks an unprotected 1st and late protected 1st might be enough to get him. If not then you circle around to Sac for Barnes and Indy for Turner for the same deal

Sign me up for any of those 3