The 2021-2022 I Wouldn't Trade Brown for Simmons Because He's a Clown Trade Thread

BK_2020 · Post #1461 » by **BK_2020** » Thu Dec 16, 2021 2:49 am

Get Ty Jerome to BOS. Give PP.

moonie_mcgee · Post #1462 » by **moonie_mcgee** » Thu Dec 16, 2021 2:58 am

playa-hater wrote:
Asian Celtic wrote:Unpopular opinion but i'd probably trade smart first before jrich.

Well I am guessing smart has better trade return than J rich.

Teams will want the younger players and JB.
We could upgrade big time in the front court and still keep the vets that best fit. And yes still get Beal. It's Tatums team. He's our #1, our Duncan, etc. Tatum will get 40ppg in the POs surround him accordingly. JB has exceeded expectations imo. Sell high. It's 08 time.

Fencer reregistered · Post #1463 » by **Fencer reregistered** » Thu Dec 16, 2021 3:41 am

moonie_mcgee wrote:
playa-hater wrote:
moonie_mcgee wrote:
The mills of the gods grind slowly but they grind to dust.

I see Wiseman's value is rising Get in on it Stevens That's the kid to pair with Tatum. Surround them with shooters and a wrecking crew and you got the team for multiple titles.

So who are we offering m smart?

Nah Smart won't get us what we need.
Hes a big part of the wrecking crew.
Besides #35 will be in the rafters.
Book it playa

I don't think that's exactly what you meant to type.

moonie_mcgee · Post #1464 » by **moonie_mcgee** » Thu Dec 16, 2021 4:07 am

Fencer reregistered wrote:
moonie_mcgee wrote:
playa-hater wrote:
So who are we offering m smart?

Nah Smart won't get us what we need.
Hes a big part of the wrecking crew.
Besides #36 will be in the rafters.
Book it playa

I don't think that's exactly what you meant to type.

Edit #36. Thanks Fencer :oops:

but ya I think that's gonna happen.

Larry_Russell · Post #1465 » by **Larry_Russell** » Thu Dec 16, 2021 1:02 pm

Al Horford, Juancho Hernangomez, Romeo Langford, Aaron Nesmith, 2 first rounders to Pelicans

for

Ingram and Jonas

Pelicans rack up the losses while Zion is out to get as high a pick as possible. Gain offseason capspace and try to re-build around Zion when he returns

Smart/Pritchard
Brown/Nesmith
Ingram/Richardson
Tatum/Grant
Jonas/Timelord

Triple7 · Post #1466 » by **Triple7** » Thu Dec 16, 2021 1:06 pm

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10021028-domantas-sabonis-rumors-pacers-star-wants-out-of-indiana-amid-trade-buzz

ddb · Post #1467 » by **ddb** » Thu Dec 16, 2021 1:52 pm

CelticFaninLBC wrote:
Celts17Pride wrote:

Read on Twitter

I find it interesting that the Celtics are so high.

Can see Stevens making a run at Simmons and Beal. Probably a better shot at getting Beal.

Really interesting you bring up Simmons and Beal. I wouldn't trade Jaylen direct for Beal or Simmons, but as part of a much larger transaction where Beal/Simmons get to Boston, now that is interesting to start thinking about. Brown would obviously have to go to Philly in this scenario....Morey isn't trading Simmons without getting a star back. Wizards on the other hand will soon have little leverage in the Beal situation. As expected they are faltering after a hot start....soon they will be back in the play-in/lottery territory. Beal is already coming out talking about keeping his options open. He's playing uninspired basketball right now. I still think there's a real connection to where Tatum/Beal want to play together in Boston.

So....fired up the trade tracker and came up with this beauty.

Boston/Washington/Philly

Boston In: Ben Simmons, Bradley Beal
Boston Out: Jaylen Brown, Al Horford, Payton Pritchard, Aaron Nesmith, three 1st rd picks unprotected

Philly In: Jaylen Brown
Philly Out: Ben Simmons, Mytisse Thybulle

Washington Out: Bradley Beal
Washington In: Al Horford, Mytisse Thybulle, Aaron Nesmith, Payton Pritchard, three 1st round picks

Philly & Boston are thrilled with this deal. They have to be. Washington is underwhelmed, but turning a player that could walk for nothing into three 1st rd picks, 3 young players with upside, and a veteran they can flip on a good contract is pretty darn good for the situation they are in.

Furthermore for Boston, trade Schroder/Juancho to Dallas for Kleber. SIGN IT

Simmons-Beal-Tatum-GWill-Timelord
IT-Smart-Richardson-Kleber-Kanter

The amount of fun and amazing lineups Ime could throw out there would be incredible.

How about throwing IT-Smart-Beal-Tatum-Simmons for a stretch!!!

Larry_Russell · Post #1468 » by **Larry_Russell** » Thu Dec 16, 2021 1:54 pm

Triple7 wrote:https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10021028-domantas-sabonis-rumors-pacers-star-wants-out-of-indiana-amid-trade-buzz

I am torn on Sabonis and his fit with the Jays

one one hand he doesnt space the floor, so he will be a paint clog with Timelord, who is needed to cover for him defensively.

So lineup would have to start Horford. And how long with Al hold up? And can you even get him without dealing Al?

Smart
Brown
Tatum
Sabonis
Horford

edit, could run him at center I suppose, but he is not a threat to block any shots, and isnt great in switches.

Smart
??
Brown
Tatum
Sabonis

Celts17Pride · Post #1469 » by **Celts17Pride** » Thu Dec 16, 2021 1:57 pm

BOSTON CELTICS: There’s been a lot of talk in recent days about the Celtics and whether it is “working,” leading to the idea that Jaylen Brown could be moved. Instead, two sources indicated that in recent talks the Celtics are focused on trying to add a third star to play with Jaylen Brown and Jayson Tatum.

https://www.actionnetwork.com/nba/nba-trade-intel-league-sources-on-trade-season-expectations

ddb · Post #1470 » by **ddb** » Thu Dec 16, 2021 1:57 pm

Larry_Russell wrote:
Triple7 wrote:https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10021028-domantas-sabonis-rumors-pacers-star-wants-out-of-indiana-amid-trade-buzz

I am torn on Sabonis and his fit with the Jays

one one hand he doesnt space the floor, so he will be a paint clog with Timelord, who is needed to cover for him defensively.

So lineup would have to start Horford. And how long with Al hold up? And can you even get him without dealing Al?

Smart
Brown
Tatum
Sabonis
Horford

edit, could run him at center I suppose, but he is not a threat to block any shots, and isnt great in switches.

Smart
??
Brown
Tatum
Sabonis

Sabonis is a stat stuffer....not the same type player as Kevin Love, but same type impact. I'm not saying he isn't a good player. He's terrific. I'm just not sure what you do with him in a playoff series down the stretch. Good teams will feast on him....

BK_2020 · Post #1471 » by **BK_2020** » Thu Dec 16, 2021 2:07 pm

Larry_Russell wrote:Al Horford, Juancho Hernangomez, Romeo Langford, Aaron Nesmith, 2 first rounders to Pelicans

for

Ingram and Jonas

Pelicans rack up the losses while Zion is out to get as high a pick as possible. Gain offseason capspace and try to re-build around Zion when he returns

Pelicans don't need any help racking up losses without trading away their top 30 wing.

ddb · Post #1472 » by **ddb** » Thu Dec 16, 2021 2:33 pm

BK_2020 wrote:
Larry_Russell wrote:Al Horford, Juancho Hernangomez, Romeo Langford, Aaron Nesmith, 2 first rounders to Pelicans

for

Ingram and Jonas

Pelicans rack up the losses while Zion is out to get as high a pick as possible. Gain offseason capspace and try to re-build around Zion when he returns

Pelicans don't need any help racking up losses without trading away their top 30 wing.

Pelicans aka future Supersonics. What are the odds? 7/4?

CelticFaninLBC · Post #1473 » by **CelticFaninLBC** » Thu Dec 16, 2021 2:45 pm

Smart, Juancho, Nesmith, PP and picks for Beal.

ddb · Post #1474 » by **ddb** » Thu Dec 16, 2021 2:50 pm

BK_2020 wrote:Get Ty Jerome to BOS. Give PP.

I like Ty Jerome! He'd a nice bench shooter/scorer that can play both guard spots. Not sure if I'd give up PP for him, though. How about Romeo!

ddb · Post #1475 » by **ddb** » Thu Dec 16, 2021 2:51 pm

CelticFaninLBC wrote:Smart, Juancho, Nesmith, PP and picks for Beal.

check out my post from last page. similar, but as part of a larger 3-team deal

CelticFaninLBC · Post #1476 » by **CelticFaninLBC** » Thu Dec 16, 2021 2:57 pm

ddb wrote:
CelticFaninLBC wrote:Smart, Juancho, Nesmith, PP and picks for Beal.

check out my post from last page. similar, but as part of a larger 3-team deal

It's interesting. Just can't see that big of overhaul and also doubt Stevens is ready to move Brown.

Can definitely see either Beal or Simmons joining Tatum and Brown in Feb.

CelticFaninLBC · Post #1477 » by **CelticFaninLBC** » Thu Dec 16, 2021 2:59 pm

ddb wrote:
BK_2020 wrote:Get Ty Jerome to BOS. Give PP.

I like Ty Jerome! He'd a nice bench shooter/scorer that can play both guard spots. Not sure if I'd give up PP for him, though. How about Romeo!

Romeo >> PP

zoyathedestroya · Post #1478 » by **zoyathedestroya** » Thu Dec 16, 2021 3:28 pm

Read on Twitter

Triple7 · Post #1479 » by **Triple7** » Thu Dec 16, 2021 3:29 pm

Larry_Russell wrote:
Triple7 wrote:https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10021028-domantas-sabonis-rumors-pacers-star-wants-out-of-indiana-amid-trade-buzz

I am torn on Sabonis and his fit with the Jays

one one hand he doesnt space the floor, so he will be a paint clog with Timelord, who is needed to cover for him defensively.

So lineup would have to start Horford. And how long with Al hold up? And can you even get him without dealing Al?

Smart
Brown
Tatum
Sabonis
Horford

edit, could run him at center I suppose, but he is not a threat to block any shots, and isnt great in switches.

Smart
??
Brown
Tatum
Sabonis

He will fit well with the Jays. A really good post up player, rebounder, can pass the ball well for a big man, and shoot a decent clip at the perimeter. Something that Timelord doesn’t have. Better to have some low post threat, than all of our guys just passing the ball outside the 3pt line. Who cares if he clogs the paint. Most of our offense focuses on chucking 3’s anyways.

Triple7 · Post #1480 » by **Triple7** » Thu Dec 16, 2021 3:35 pm

ddb wrote:
Larry_Russell wrote:
Triple7 wrote:https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10021028-domantas-sabonis-rumors-pacers-star-wants-out-of-indiana-amid-trade-buzz

I am torn on Sabonis and his fit with the Jays

one one hand he doesnt space the floor, so he will be a paint clog with Timelord, who is needed to cover for him defensively.

So lineup would have to start Horford. And how long with Al hold up? And can you even get him without dealing Al?

Smart
Brown
Tatum
Sabonis
Horford

edit, could run him at center I suppose, but he is not a threat to block any shots, and isnt great in switches.

Smart
??
Brown
Tatum
Sabonis

Sabonis is a stat stuffer....not the same type player as Kevin Love, but same type impact. I'm not saying he isn't a good player. He's terrific. I'm just not sure what you do with him in a playoff series down the stretch. Good teams will feast on him....

What do you mean by, what you do with him in a playoff series down the stretch? They can literally feed him the ball down low, and make plays on his own, or pass the ball to either the Jays. We have problems finishing close games, because all we do is give the ball to JT and let him iso. Horford rarely posts up anymore. Timelord relies on lobs to score. Sabonis gives us an offensive option other than the Jays.