Game 30 @ Milwaukee 8pm

ducler · Post #1 » by **ducler** » Wed Dec 15, 2021 10:10 pm

Pacers Forever · Post #2 » by **Pacers Forever** » Wed Dec 15, 2021 11:38 pm

Should win as Bucks 0-7 when no Middleton and Giannis. Will be a struggle though if Hill, Connaghton, Grayson, and Holiday are hot. Portis will get his.

Pacers Forever · Post #3 » by **Pacers Forever** » Thu Dec 16, 2021 12:01 am

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Pacers Forever · Post #4 » by **Pacers Forever** » Thu Dec 16, 2021 12:51 am

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Wizop · Post #5 » by **Wizop** » Thu Dec 16, 2021 3:06 am

Total collapse. I was starting to think we'd turned the corner, but we fell off the cliff.

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Tom White · Post #6 » by **Tom White** » Thu Dec 16, 2021 3:14 am

Wizop wrote:Total collapse. I was starting to think we'd turned the corner, but we fell off the cliff.

Just saw the score online. Milwaukee without two great players? No problem.

But don't worry, 'cause Herb thinks this team is just fine as it is. What a joke.

Pacers Forever · Post #7 » by **Pacers Forever** » Thu Dec 16, 2021 3:16 am

Wizop wrote:Total collapse. I was starting to think we'd turned the corner, but we fell off the cliff.

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For sure. Another 4Q collapse fueled by turnovers and couldn’t even run an offensive set.

Pacers Forever · Post #8 » by **Pacers Forever** » Thu Dec 16, 2021 3:28 am

Pacers Forever wrote:Should win as Bucks 0-7 when no Middleton and Giannis. Will be a struggle though if Hill, Connaghton, Grayson, and Holiday are hot. Portis will get his.

Forgot about Hood and super star Nwora. Can it get any worse ????? I’m guessing yes.

Wizop · Post #9 » by **Wizop** » Thu Dec 16, 2021 3:39 am

Tom White wrote:
Wizop wrote:Total collapse. I was starting to think we'd turned the corner, but we fell off the cliff.

Just saw the score online. Milwaukee without two great players? No problem.

But don't worry, 'cause Herb thinks this team is just fine as it is. What a joke.

It was worse than the box score. We were up 92-91 and went 7 minutes without a point

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Topofthekey · Post #10 » by **Topofthekey** » Thu Dec 16, 2021 3:47 am

Wizop wrote:
Tom White wrote:
Wizop wrote:Total collapse. I was starting to think we'd turned the corner, but we fell off the cliff.

Just saw the score online. Milwaukee without two great players? No problem.

But don't worry, 'cause Herb thinks this team is just fine as it is. What a joke.
It was worse than the box score. We were up 92-91 and went 7 minutes without a point

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How did they manage that even

Post #11 » by **Scoot McGroot** » Thu Dec 16, 2021 4:10 am

Yeah, this was embarrassing. Jrue kicked our butts early, and then they couldn’t miss a thing late. The fact that they took care of the ball and capitalized off of us not doing so just finished us off.

basketballwacko2 · Post #12 » by **basketballwacko2** » Thu Dec 16, 2021 6:51 am

Wizop wrote:Total collapse. I was starting to think we'd turned the corner, but we fell off the cliff.

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I can't watch this disgusting mess anymore. They just can't hold a lead and can't close out a game to win, the total collapse tonight did me in I'm ready for a fire sale.

Vorda · Post #13 » by **Vorda** » Thu Dec 16, 2021 8:47 am

Ok, lets trade hole team... this doesnt make sense anymore... if we cant beat Bucks without their 2 best players. We need players who can play 4th quarter... Brogdon and Levert cant.

Topofthekey · Post #14 » by **Topofthekey** » Thu Dec 16, 2021 10:06 am

Trade Herb

davidfr94 · Post #15 » by **davidfr94** » Thu Dec 16, 2021 5:33 pm

Vorda wrote:Ok, lets trade hole team... this doesnt make sense anymore... if we cant beat Bucks without their 2 best players. We need players who can play 4th quarter... Brogdon and Levert cant.

They are also missing their starting center. We lost against Denver without jokic, against DC without beal...

Our bigs are supposed to be our strength. We cannot even dominate bench player/undersized lineups.

Our team is just a bunch of role players.

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Wizop · Post #16 » by **Wizop** » Thu Dec 16, 2021 5:47 pm

davidfr94 wrote:Our team is just a bunch of role players.

who lost to Jrue Holiday and a bunch of role players.

Post #17 » by **Scoot McGroot** » Thu Dec 16, 2021 6:06 pm

To me, these late game failures are showing that we need a guard (PG or at least solid ball handler) that can run offense in crunch time, with range on his shot. McConnell does some, but not all. I think Brogdon does ok for most of the game, but just can’t handle these late moments. We’ve been unable to maintain possession, see the court, or make open passes, let alone get the ball inside to a roller or big man, and we devolve into just attempting one on one, and we don’t have one of those guys right now.

8305 · Post #18 » by **8305** » Thu Dec 16, 2021 6:10 pm

I've been suggesting trades to alter the core of Sabonis, Turner, Levert and Brogdan since before the draft. Maybe its good the deal wasn't made before now. The performance of this team supports more of a take a step back as opposed to better fitting veteran pieces. Sounds like we need to be contacting Warriors or Thunder. A package of 2021 rookies or picks moving forward seems to be the appropriate response.

Wizop · Post #19 » by **Wizop** » Thu Dec 16, 2021 6:15 pm

Scoot McGroot wrote:we devolve into just attempting one on one, and we don’t have one of those guys right now.

I'm okay not having one of those guys and not trading to get one, but I agree that either our talent or our schemes lack something. Neither LeVert nor Duarte are good at creating shots for others. McConnell can but his lack of an outside shot makes it hard to use him in crunch time or the playoffs. should we trade LeVert or hire CCooper?

Wizop · Post #20 » by **Wizop** » Thu Dec 16, 2021 6:20 pm

8305 wrote:I've been suggesting trades to alter the core of Sabonis, Turner, Levert and Brogdan since before the draft. ... A package of 2021 rookies or picks moving forward seems to be the appropriate response.

such a deal is really hard to make in the season. I get why we didn't make one last summer with a new coach coming in and two key players expected to be healthier but know I think we have to wait to next summer. that's not all bad though as 1) it gives us time to see what if anything Warren can add, and 2)) if we continue to stink, there's the lottery.