The New Improved 2021-2022 Trade/Offseason Thread

[skywalker33]

Barton, MonteMorris, Howard
For
Anfernee Simons and Bertans


Maybe Nugs and Wizards fill out Ben Simmons to Portland Trade?

I wouldn't trade Morris straight up for Simon, adding Barton and Bertans is just insulting.

But those are players Coeur LIKES, it has nothing to do with making the team better, just more to his liking.

[Manolito]

there is a rumour saying Kemba x Jamychal + 2024 SRP is being discussed. I don´t see how Kemba might fit here with Morris and Murray (even Hyland), and apparently he is physically done.

While I think Jamychal should be traded because he brings nothing and blocks Nnaji, Nuggets should target a SF or backup C. Nevertheless Jamychal´s value is extremely low with that Player option.

[NuggetsWY]

Jamychal for Kemba is a perfect match on salaries. New York would probably like more back, so maybe add a deep bench young player.

The fit seems better with Kemba than Jamychal. He might be a nice veteran bench player that would be okay with Murray too. But he's got a short-term salary that won't break the bank.

New York seems to think McDermott might be available. Barton for McDermott is a perfect fit salary-wise and I think both players fit the other team better. This might be a nice trade.

[Mickey8]

Denver loves undersized back court players, why not bring Isiah Thomas from G league instead

[skywalker33]

Denver loves undersized back court players, why not bring Isiah Thomas from G league instead

Well he’s looking to sign with the Lakers

[Mickey8]

My point was, they could have signed Thomas if they wanted to , him and Walker are the same type of the players , undersized shoot first guards who can't play defense, and the Nuggets are already undersized in the back court , Morris, Campazzo,Howard, Rivers . They need bigger players at guard positions, players who can shoot and defend, Kemba is not good fit for Denver .

[Richard Miller]

My point was, they could have signed Thomas if they wanted to , him and Walker are the same type of the players , undersized shoot first guards who can't play defense, and the Nuggets are already undersized in the back court , Morris, Campazzo,Howard, Rivers . They need bigger players at guard positions, players who can shoot and defend, Kemba is not good fit for Denver .

Health is the problem, not so much size - if Kemba is healthy enough to play he's way better option than IT, but if he's not he will be less useful than Bol

[Mickey8]

Denver should try to buy out Kalinic from Red Star , he's probably the best wing player in the Europe right now, he can't be worse than Barton.

Watch on YouTube

or Lucic from Bayern

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Or bring them both in.

[skywalker33]

Denver should try to buy out Kalinic from Red Star , he's probably the best wing player in the Europe right now, he can't be worse than Barton.

Watch on YouTube

or Lucic from Bayern

Watch on YouTube

Or bring them both in.

Yeah, bring in a Euro, that's the answer.....bring on the WC parade . Not against replacing Barton, but just look at the impact Facu is making before bringing in another guy who doesn't know the NBA

[The Rebel]

I keep looking at the team and think we have to make a move at the deadline.

I think the only reason we brought in both Greens was because the front office was unsure of being able to trust what we saw from Nnaji late last year. So far he has shown that he is capable of handling regular rotation minutes. When Jokic goes to the bench we get destroyed in the paint, I think it is reasonable to think that one of them may be shipped out if we can find a suitable backup Center.

If Murray is back and healthy by the trade deadline and we still have Morris and Barton with Bones playing so well, I think it makes sense that we could move Campazzo especially if we have Reed signed to the full year deal. Howard and Rivers make a fine 3rd string back court.

What I would like to see is if we can get some actual help this year. We are a little over a calendar year removed from Jokic and murray carrying us to the conference finals, why throw in the towel at this point this year when we are still very in the playoff race.

I think the team could do well in the playoffs with a suitable backup Center.

Murray/ Morris/HOward
Barton/Bones/ Rivers
Gordon/ Reed/
jeff Green/ Nnaji/ Cancar
Jokic/ good defensive backup C

Putting Morris and a good backup C with the young guys should steady the bench out somewhat and we all know what Jokic and a healthy Murray are capable of with some defenders surrounding them.

[The Rebel]

I wonder if we could get the Pacers to do something like Bol, Campazzo. and Jaymichael Green for Bitadze and Jeremy Lamb?

[TunaFish]

I wonder if we could get the Pacers to do something like Bol, Campazzo. and Jaymichael Green for Bitadze and Jeremy Lamb?

Bitadze has the size and may have a problem with a coach in Indiana, so he might be available. Lamb at age 29 might also be a good backup shooting guard. Still, I don't think the package you are proposing from the Nuggets would have much interest anywhere without picks.

The problem for the Nuggets is the loss of all the draft picks that have been given up so far and the lack of veteran assets that they would be willing to trade that would interest another team. That happens when you design a roster for 3 max contracts and a sprinkling of key vets and few rookie contracts.

Looks like they are going to ride with the current roster but I'd would love an upgrade at backup center as well as backup shooting guard (or even starting shooting guard). Barton is too inconsistent for me.

No doubt JaMychal Green's poor play has been a real disappointment and he won't be easily tradable.

[Alatan]

Am I mistaken to think that Nerlens Noel is the perfect fit for Jokic and the Nuggets? He can provide rim protection, weak side help defense and vertical spacing from the 4 position while also being able to play the backup 5. I cant stop imagining him in the Faried role on offense but with very good defense. Think of the lobs Jokic could be throwing him.

Id rather have him than Gordon to be honest...

If Garry Payton Jr continues to shoot well from 3 id also try to get him too. He could be the point of attack defender we desperately need while also being a threat as a cutter and corner shooter.

[The Rebel]

Am I mistaken to think that Nerlens Noel is the perfect fit for Jokic and the Nuggets? He can provide rim protection, weak side help defense and vertical spacing from the 4 position while also being able to play the backup 5. I cant stop imagining him in the Faried role on offense but with very good defense. Think of the lobs Jokic could be throwing him.

Id rather have him than Gordon to be honest...

If Garry Payton Jr continues to shoot well from 3 id also try to get him too. He could be the point of attack defender we desperately need while also being a threat as a cutter and corner shooter.

You may be Noel's biggest fan. A backup Center that has a very limited jump shot, no handles, and is not nearly the defender you seem to think is nowhere close to the value that Gordon brings. The starters with Jokic on the court have a top 2 defense in the league, or issue is at backup Center, not trying to solve a problem that the starters don't have.

The reason Faried got limited minutes on both ends was because teams would just pack the paint and his entire offensive repertoire would disappear. The same thing that happened with Plumlee, but at least Plumlee could pass.

As for Gary Payton Jr, how are you getting him? I hate to tell you but his defense is not anywhere close to Gordon's especially his versatility.

[Alatan]

Am I mistaken to think that Nerlens Noel is the perfect fit for Jokic and the Nuggets? He can provide rim protection, weak side help defense and vertical spacing from the 4 position while also being able to play the backup 5. I cant stop imagining him in the Faried role on offense but with very good defense. Think of the lobs Jokic could be throwing him.

Id rather have him than Gordon to be honest...

If Garry Payton Jr continues to shoot well from 3 id also try to get him too. He could be the point of attack defender we desperately need while also being a threat as a cutter and corner shooter.

You may be Noel's biggest fan. A backup Center that has a very limited jump shot, no handles, and is not nearly the defender you seem to think is nowhere close to the value that Gordon brings. The starters with Jokic on the court have a top 2 defense in the league, or issue is at backup Center, not trying to solve a problem that the starters don't have.

The reason Faried got limited minutes on both ends was because teams would just pack the paint and his entire offensive repertoire would disappear. The same thing that happened with Plumlee, but at least Plumlee could pass.

As for Gary Payton Jr, how are you getting him? I hate to tell you but his defense is not anywhere close to Gordon's especially his versatility.

Sorry, but if you think that Gordon is a good defender i have nothing more to discuss with you.

[The Rebel]

Am I mistaken to think that Nerlens Noel is the perfect fit for Jokic and the Nuggets? He can provide rim protection, weak side help defense and vertical spacing from the 4 position while also being able to play the backup 5. I cant stop imagining him in the Faried role on offense but with very good defense. Think of the lobs Jokic could be throwing him.

Id rather have him than Gordon to be honest...

If Garry Payton Jr continues to shoot well from 3 id also try to get him too. He could be the point of attack defender we desperately need while also being a threat as a cutter and corner shooter.

You may be Noel's biggest fan. A backup Center that has a very limited jump shot, no handles, and is not nearly the defender you seem to think is nowhere close to the value that Gordon brings. The starters with Jokic on the court have a top 2 defense in the league, or issue is at backup Center, not trying to solve a problem that the starters don't have.

The reason Faried got limited minutes on both ends was because teams would just pack the paint and his entire offensive repertoire would disappear. The same thing that happened with Plumlee, but at least Plumlee could pass.

As for Gary Payton Jr, how are you getting him? I hate to tell you but his defense is not anywhere close to Gordon's especially his versatility.

Sorry, but if you think that Gordon is a good defender i have nothing more to discuss with you.

No problem, anybody that thinks Noel is a better player than Gordon should watch more basketball and talk about it much less.

[Richard Miller]

I cant stop imagining him in the Faried role on offense but with very good defense. Think of the lobs Jokic could be throwing him.

You can't stop imagining him in the role of a guy who couldn't get minutes on a lottery team Nuggets and has been out of the league for years? Like what on earth man

[Alatan]

I cant stop imagining him in the Faried role on offense but with very good defense. Think of the lobs Jokic could be throwing him.

You can't stop imagining him in the role of a guy who couldn't get minutes on a lottery team Nuggets and has been out of the league for years? Like what on earth man

Faried had great chemistry with Jokic on offense. At one point he was putting up 20 ppg on good percentages and the Nuggets had a top offensive rating. His problem was always defense. That is why he got ousted from the league. Noel can do what Faried did on offense while being good defensively.

Noel is ass at creating his own shot but if he has someone to create for him he can be effective. He struggles to find a role in the NBA because most teams dont need a pf/c that is too small to be a full time C and too offensively limited to be a wing player but on the Nuggets he would find a his niche.

[Richard Miller]

I cant stop imagining him in the Faried role on offense but with very good defense. Think of the lobs Jokic could be throwing him.

You can't stop imagining him in the role of a guy who couldn't get minutes on a lottery team Nuggets and has been out of the league for years? Like what on earth man

Faried had great chemistry with Jokic on offense. At one point he was putting up 20 ppg on good percentages and the Nuggets had a top offensive rating. His problem was always defense. That is why he got ousted from the league. Noel can do what Faried did on offense while being good defensively.

You'd think if that were true, somebody somewhere would sign Faried just for the offensive side if nothing else, just like Harrell is still valuable player, but in reality he couldn't even play in Europe.

Noel could make sense as a backup C, but certainly not at that money, and he's nowhere near as versatile as Gordon.

[skywalker33]

Per Mike Singer, Vlatko Cancar has a right foot fracture, he was starting to show some good signs, now this. Par for the season