Simmons Trade Thread - The Ocho

[stormi]

With the SAC/MIN/HOU rumors, I'd love to somehow make the following trade work. I feel like it'd solve all of our current issues in one swoop.

HOU out: Wood
HOU in: Bagley, 2022 PHI FRP

PHI out: Simmons, Harris, Milton, 2022 FRP
PHI in: Fox, Barnes, Wood

SAC out: Fox, Barnes, Bagley
SAC in: Simmons, Harris, Milton


Who needs to add what? My initial reaction is Houston needs an additional draft pick to complete this.


Fox/Maxey/Springer
Green/Curry/Joe
Barnes/Thybulle/Korkmaz
Wood/Niang/Reed
Embiid/Drummond/Bassey

I think Houston would need more via us for Christian Wood. The Sac part of that deal looks fine.

That starting five is championship caliber also.

[ProcessDoctor]

With the SAC/MIN/HOU rumors, I'd love to somehow make the following trade work. I feel like it'd solve all of our current issues in one swoop.

HOU out: Wood
HOU in: Bagley, 2022 PHI FRP

PHI out: Simmons, Harris, Milton, 2022 FRP
PHI in: Fox, Barnes, Wood

SAC out: Fox, Barnes, Bagley
SAC in: Simmons, Harris, Milton


Who needs to add what? My initial reaction is Houston needs an additional draft pick to complete this.


Fox/Maxey/Springer
Green/Curry/Joe
Barnes/Thybulle/Korkmaz
Wood/Niang/Reed
Embiid/Drummond/Bassey

I think Houston would need more via us for Christian Wood. The Sac part of that deal looks fine.

That starting five is championship caliber also.

What if we sent Maxey to Houston instead of Milton to Sacramento and kept our FRP? So Bagley + Maxey for Wood.

Fox/Milton/Springer
Green/Curry/Joe
Barnes/Thybulle/Korkmaz
Wood/Niang/Reed
Embiid/Drummond/Bassey

[Kobblehead]

We definitely don't want Harrison Barnes.

[Sportfan73]

With the SAC/MIN/HOU rumors, I'd love to somehow make the following trade work. I feel like it'd solve all of our current issues in one swoop.

HOU out: Wood
HOU in: Bagley, 2022 PHI FRP

PHI out: Simmons, Harris, Milton, 2022 FRP
PHI in: Fox, Barnes, Wood

SAC out: Fox, Barnes, Bagley
SAC in: Simmons, Harris, Milton


Who needs to add what? My initial reaction is Houston needs an additional draft pick to complete this.


Fox/Maxey/Springer
Green/Curry/Joe
Barnes/Thybulle/Korkmaz
Wood/Niang/Reed
Embiid/Drummond/Bassey

I think Houston would need more via us for Christian Wood. The Sac part of that deal looks fine.

That starting five is championship caliber also.

What if we sent Maxey to Houston instead of Milton to Sacramento and kept our FRP? So Bagley + Maxey for Wood.

Fox/Milton/Springer
Green/Curry/Joe
Barnes/Thybulle/Korkmaz
Wood/Niang/Reed
Embiid/Drummond/Bassey

I think if we move Maxey it should be in an all in type move that attaches him, all of our firsts, probably Thybulle, to either Harris or green depending on the stars salary we are trying to get to. Even something like Maxey, Thybulle, curry, green, and 3 firsts and 3 swaps would be a pretty good package but only in the 20mil ish range

[ProcessDoctor]

I definitely don't want Harrison Barnes.

Fixed that for ya.

[Kobblehead]

I definitely don't want Harrison Barnes.

Fixed that for ya.

Why would ANYONE want Harrison Barnes?

No defense, no shotcreating, no rebounding, no passing, doesn't shoot enough threes. He's literally just a guy that scores assisted buckets inside the arc. He's a way worse version of Tobias Harris.

Hield, I understand. I myself, want Buddy Hield. He'd be an awesome fit. I see no justification for desiring Harrison Barnes or thinking he'd be a good fit on either end of the floor for us, though. He's one of the most pointless players in the league.

[the_process]

Barnes > Harris. He shoots more threes and has a better draw rate.

But if you’re getting Christian Wood, then no need for Barnes. You don’t really want to play Harrison out on the wing at this point in his career.

[Kobblehead]

Barnes > Harris. He shoots more threes and has a better draw rate.

But if you’re getting Christian Wood, then no need for Barnes. You don’t really want to play Harrison out on the wing at this point in his career.

5.2 3pa per 36 is not an acceptable shooting frequency for a guy that offers nothing else.

Harris has a superior assist percentage, defensive rebound percentage, unassisted bucket rate, etc. Harris is far better than Barnes.

[Kobblehead]

Tobias Harris is a relatively pointless player. However, Harrison Barnes will show you a new meaning of the term pointless.

[PhillyFan11]

Barnes > Harris. He shoots more threes and has a better draw rate.

But if you’re getting Christian Wood, then no need for Barnes. You don’t really want to play Harrison out on the wing at this point in his career.

5.2 3pa per 36 is not an acceptable shooting frequency for a guy that offers nothing else.

Harris has a superior assist percentage, defensive rebound percentage, unassisted bucket rate, etc. Harris is far better than Barnes.

I agree Harris is better than Barnes. How much better is up for debate though. But you know what’s not up for debate? The contracts after this season. 1 year $18M vs 2 $76M. IF (and that is a huge if) we can get out of Harris’s contract without giving up significant assets we should all jump for joy. Getting a solid role player like Barnes back as well shouldn’t be something to complain about.

[stormi]

Barnes shoots more 3's, has an actual handle and can get to the foul stripe, and best of all - he doesn't think he's a franchise saving ballstopper that kills his teams pace. Barnes is mighty content standing in the corner and spacing the floor. I'd easily move Harris for Barnes 1 for 1 contracts aside.

[Kobblehead]

Only if we can re-route Barnes to a 3rd team and get back $18m of expiring money.

[the_process]

Barnes > Harris. He shoots more threes and has a better draw rate.

But if you’re getting Christian Wood, then no need for Barnes. You don’t really want to play Harrison out on the wing at this point in his career.

5.2 3pa per 36 is not an acceptable shooting frequency for a guy that offers nothing else.

Harris has a superior assist percentage, defensive rebound percentage, unassisted bucket rate, etc. Harris is far better than Barnes.

I don't care about their rebounding or their unassisted bucket rate. Frankly, I don't want Tobias or Harrison creating their own buckets! Catch and shoot threes all day long. Toby shoots zero of them. Harrison will shoot them, but since he ends up being the most productive player on that damn terrible Kings team a lot of the time, it causes him to dribble too much. He makes an effort defensively and is better than Tobias on that end. Much more switchable.

I'll take Harrison all week long and an extra 18 times on Sunday over Tobias.

[GuideDog]

Boston seems more open to breaking up Tatum and Brown cause it hasn't worked. They are both scorer and somewhat redundant. Ben would be great on that team. Jaylen Brown would be the best we can for Simmons.

[stormi]

With the SAC/MIN/HOU rumors, I'd love to somehow make the following trade work. I feel like it'd solve all of our current issues in one swoop.

HOU out: Wood
HOU in: Bagley, 2022 PHI FRP

PHI out: Simmons, Harris, Milton, 2022 FRP
PHI in: Fox, Barnes, Wood

SAC out: Fox, Barnes, Bagley
SAC in: Simmons, Harris, Milton


Who needs to add what? My initial reaction is Houston needs an additional draft pick to complete this.


Fox/Maxey/Springer
Green/Curry/Joe
Barnes/Thybulle/Korkmaz
Wood/Niang/Reed
Embiid/Drummond/Bassey

I think Houston would need more via us for Christian Wood. The Sac part of that deal looks fine.

That starting five is championship caliber also.

What if we sent Maxey to Houston instead of Milton to Sacramento and kept our FRP? So Bagley + Maxey for Wood.

Fox/Milton/Springer
Green/Curry/Joe
Barnes/Thybulle/Korkmaz
Wood/Niang/Reed
Embiid/Drummond/Bassey

Sounds more fair, and I would probably do it. I don't believe Fox makes Maxey redundant, but it would help ease the loss. Although I think he's going to be a phenomenal player in a year or two.

Christian Wood is serious talent, and only 26. You have to give to get.

[Kobblehead]

I feel like some would have a different tune if you had the nightly exposure to Harrison Barnes that you've had to Tobias Harris. Again, Barnes brings new meaning to the term pointless basketball player. If you're frustrated by watching Tobias Harris, wait until you get a load of Harrison Barnes.

[GuideDog]

I don't think the Sixers have any interest in Fox. And Barnes is pointless. Why bother!

[stormi]

Boston seems more open to breaking up Tatum and Brown cause it hasn't worked. They are both scorer and somewhat redundant. Ben would be great on that team. Jaylen Brown would be the best we can for Simmons.

I think JB is overrated, but this would be must watch basketball for the storylines.

Tatum & Brown definitely have an internal rivalry and spend most of each game trying to one up each other at the expense of their own teams success.

And then Ben vs' Embiid and the entire city of Philadelphia.

[stormi]

I feel like some would have a different tune if you had the nightly exposure to Harrison Barnes that you've had to Tobias Harris. Again, Barnes brings new meaning to the term pointless basketball player. If you're frustrated by watching Tobias Harris, wait until you get a load of Harrison Barnes.

> Shoots more 3's
> Isn't Tobias Harris

All I need to see or hear.

[Kobblehead]

I don't think the Sixers have any interest in Fox. And Barnes is pointless. Why bother!

Yeah, I'm not sure if Morey would have interest in Fox as a companion piece to Embiid. Joel doesn't do the bigman stuff offensively to make Fox an optimum fit in terms of the pick and roll game he excels at. And obviously Fox isn't going to space the floor off the ball when Embiid is dominating the ball.