Game 30 GSW @ TOR

[squarepimpin]

Kuminga is like Wiseman.

Offense is easy for them.... rebounding on the other hand considering how big they both are has been unimpressive.

Yeah his rebounding numbers were low … But I saw a lot of blocking out activity that led to rebounds - but his low rebounding numbers why I hope he can develop into a big 3 wing


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[SpreeChokeJob]

Kuminga needs to do a better job reading the floor. Some of his turnovers were careless. No way he gets minutes in meaningful games unless he cleans those up.

He should just be brought up as a playmaker first and scorer second so he can recognize defenses. I don’t expect his shooting to be consistent this year, but he should be able to help in other ways.

[cladden]

I root for Moody as much as the next guy but for a supposed knock-down shooter he has not shown even flashes of being able to score in the NBA. I don't mind making him learn some hard lessons tbh. Chiozza, as useless as he is in most ways at least can make a shot when it's a good look. Moody has a troubling lack of quickness to me and has been historically bad on offense.

[Crazy-Canuck]

Watching moody play tonight, i had Mulder flashbacks.

[clyde21]

I'm glad that Kerr is making Moody earn his minutes. He's teaching him not to take them for granted.

tell us more about how Chiozza and Dowtin earned their minutes

Everyone knows neither of those dudes are in our future. Might just be making a point to Moody. No idea. I'm kinda assuming Moody is stinking it up in practice TBH.

there is no such thing as practice during the season

during the season you run drills and watch tape, rarely do teams are actually running 5v5 scrims

[cladden]

Noticed on the Raptors board:

Kuminga is still very raw but the ability is there. It's a shame that Wiggins is balling out of his mind this year ... The Warriors would be a perfect trade partner for us. Wiseman, Kuminga & Wiggins for Pascal & filler.

I honestly wouldn't give either one of those dudes for Siakam.

[xdrta+]

Noticed on the Raptors board:

Kuminga is still very raw but the ability is there. It's a shame that Wiggins is balling out of his mind this year ... The Warriors would be a perfect trade partner for us. Wiseman, Kuminga & Wiggins for Pascal & filler.

I honestly wouldn't give either one of those dudes for Siakam.

They think that because Wiggins is playing well that's the reason the Warriors wouldn't make that trade? Those guys are the biggest dreamers...

[Badly Browned]

Kuminga is like Wiseman.

Offense is easy for them.... rebounding on the other hand considering how big they both are has been unimpressive.

Yeah his rebounding numbers were low … But I saw a lot of blocking out activity that led to rebounds - but his low rebounding numbers why I hope he can develop into a big 3 wing


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Between Ignite, SCW, and GSW, Kuminga is grabbing ~ 7.6 reb per36 minutes.

He had low numbers tonight, but overall he's been fine for a 3 / smallball 4. It's not like Eric Paschall putting up 6 reb per36 with the Warriors.

[GunnerWRX]

For a g league game like this you don’t look at the plus minus, because only a couple of players out of the group will get to play with Steph Draymond Wiggins and eventually Klay when the game is on the line.

You look for the players who stand out with certain things and who is likely to apply that strength in a more limited role when playing with the big boys.

To me, the guy who stood out was Kuminga. He will get more holes to attack and less chance to overdo things (ie turnovers) with the big boys.

[GunnerWRX]

Kuminga is like Wiseman.

Offense is easy for them.... rebounding on the other hand considering how big they both are has been unimpressive.

Yeah his rebounding numbers were low … But I saw a lot of blocking out activity that led to rebounds - but his low rebounding numbers why I hope he can develop into a big 3 wing


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Between Ignite, SCW, and GSW, Kuminga is grabbing ~ 7.6 reb per36 minutes.

He had low numbers tonight, but overall he's been fine for a 3 / smallball 4. It's not like Eric Paschall putting up 6 reb per36 with the Warriors.

As long as we have a top 10 defensive rebounding rate I really don’t care which individual is getting the rebound in their stat.

In fact, I haven’t looked up our team’s individual rebound per game # for a long time. It’s a useless # to me.

[FNQ]

I root for Moody as much as the next guy but for a supposed knock-down shooter he has not shown even flashes of being able to score in the NBA. I don't mind making him learn some hard lessons tbh. Chiozza, as useless as he is in most ways at least can make a shot when it's a good look. Moody has a troubling lack of quickness to me and has been historically bad on offense.

Its not hard to figure out - he's a rhythm shooter and he's playing in short intervals with 80% of those minutes being garbage time minutes. Because even a cursory look at him in GLeague vs NBA shows the difference and importance of rhythm. As I just said in this thread, how many players that currently get minutes on this team looked good tonight? The players that did look good (Kuminga, sometimes Looney and Nemo) are guys that don't rely on their teammates. GP was looking bad until the garbage time 4th too.. because all his cutting means nothing if we aren't finding him.

No one who pushed for Moody ever said he was good in isolation or he'd fit well with the backups. That was the entire point of wanting him - he doesn't need the ball, but he's got elite 3&D potential. After tonight he'll have played about 15% of his minutes (130) with one of (or both) of Draymond/Curry on the court.

I'm not sure if you were serious comparing Chiozza's mess of a jumper to Moody's, but considering Chiozza averages more than 3 minutes a set and has an average of a defender being 7.3ft away from him when he shoots 3s - beating the nearest Warrior by a full 2ft and Moody by 3.4 - you might expect better results from the 27 year old with the more favorable variables that stays with the team full time than the 19 year old who doesn't have those benefits

[FNQ]

Yeah his rebounding numbers were low … But I saw a lot of blocking out activity that led to rebounds - but his low rebounding numbers why I hope he can develop into a big 3 wing


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Between Ignite, SCW, and GSW, Kuminga is grabbing ~ 7.6 reb per36 minutes.

He had low numbers tonight, but overall he's been fine for a 3 / smallball 4. It's not like Eric Paschall putting up 6 reb per36 with the Warriors.

As long as we have a top 10 defensive rebounding rate I really don’t care which individual is getting the rebound in their stat.

In fact, I haven’t looked up our team’s individual rebound per game # for a long time. It’s a useless # to me.

We outrebounded the Raptors even though they outshot us, Kuminga's rebrate coming into tonight was about 12% (1.5% below OPJ) and the team has rebounded 1.3% better when he's on court than off.

[KevinMcreynolds]

Chiozza got absolutely murdered by FVV

[tarantism]

I'll admit, i switched to a different game at half time but Kuminga looked pretty good from what I saw. Definitely had a few "this guy could be a star here" moments while watching the first half.

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[GSWFan1994]

Watch on YouTube

[xdrta+]

Chiozza got absolutely murdered by FVV

A two-way scrub playing against an excellent NBA vet. Shocker.

[HiRez]

I'll admit, i switched to a different game at half time but Kuminga looked pretty good from what I saw. Definitely had a few "this guy could be a star here" moments while watching the first half.

Loved it, to me this game was totally worth the loss just to finally get a good look at Kuminga (and get others rest of course). He's doing special things and he doesn't even know what he's doing yet. Once he stops hesitating while trying to read the situation he's going to be really lethal. Some of those passes were telegraphed and forced, but he had a few others that could have been assists. And obviously he'll be even better playing with Steph, Draymond, etc.

[SpreeChokeJob]

Chiozza got absolutely murdered by FVV

A two-way scrub playing against an excellent NBA vet. Shocker.

Vanvleet didn’t have people knocking down his door after college either. And they are around the same age. But Vanvleet is a terror on the defensive end for his size.

[shazam_guy]

I tried to read this game-thread -- we were out for a birthday dinner and I haven't been able to watch the game yet -- but it's just too full of complaints. The comments read like an incel site discussion of the Miss Universe pageant. I thought I might learn something, but instead I just found out that everything Warriors was still terrible, just like when we actually have all our players. I really need to learn that, I guess. I keep thinking we've got a fairly good team, but I must be mistaken.

I'm sure it was astonishing that our subs' subs didn't triumph over a fairly decent NBA team. Me, I'm going to watch it mostly for Kuminga and Moody. What I want to know though, is if it was so painful and awful, why were some of you spending so much time watching and negging on a game we all knew they were never going to win?

[Quazza]

I'm 100% convinced on Kuminga. We just watched the youngest kid in the league put up 26 on over 60% fg and I'm not even sure he played that "well "

The kid has it