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The 2022 NBA Draft Thread

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Who is your early favorite?

Chet Holmgren
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32%
Paolo Banchero
23
23%
Jaden Hardy
7
7%
Jabari Smith
35
35%
Jalen Duren
4
4%
 
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Re: The 2022 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#221 » by Magic_Johnny12 » Fri Dec 17, 2021 5:31 pm

This is a draft where you dont have to overthink it. There's already a pretty stable consensus top-3 and Orlando should be thinking "life after Isaac" so we will surely be after one of Holmgren/Banchero/Smith. If we continue our trajectory we'll end up with one of them.

If Orlando jumps out of the top-3 and feels comfortable with Carter at the 4 full-time then I think they strongly consider Duren at that point.

Orlando's big board should look like this (top-5)

Holmgren
Smith
Banchero
Duren
Hardy

*I think Orlando picks Smith over Banchero if they had to choose imo
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Post#222 » by jezzerinho » Fri Dec 17, 2021 6:32 pm

Magic_Johnny12 wrote:This is a draft where you dont have to overthink it. There's already a pretty stable consensus top-3 and Orlando should be thinking "life after Isaac" so we will surely be after one of Holmgren/Banchero/Smith. If we continue our trajectory we'll end up with one of them.

If Orlando jumps out of the top-3 and feels comfortable with Carter at the 4 full-time then I think they strongly consider Duren at that point.

Orlando's big board should look like this (top-5)

Holmgren
Smith
Banchero
Duren
Hardy

*I think Orlando picks Smith over Banchero if they had to choose imo


Crystallising your choice way before all the influential data points are collected is a very bad idea. Let's see how the college (and NBA) seasons play out.
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Post#223 » by The Effect » Fri Dec 17, 2021 10:53 pm

Ok, so i know hes struggled lately, and his team is garbage, but what are the opinions of Patrick Baldwin?
I saw some mentions of him on the front page, but not much else since then.
Been watching highlights of alot of the top 10 guys and theres something about him that makes me wish he was on this team. I dont know if its because hes playing at such a lower level, but his game seems SO effortless and smooth, and that shooting stroke (when hes on) looks elite

Also, read this article about him and this part right here.......
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/32388063/what-exactly-five-star-recruit-patrick-baldwin-jr-doing-mid-major-milwaukee
While the chance to play for his father sold Baldwin Jr. on Milwaukee, another factor emerged over the last year as he considered his options. Baldwin Jr. began to wonder if he could mimic Antetokounmpo's success, and carry an underdog to national prominence, too.

"Just seeing him in a small market and seeing how he changed a city like this," Baldwin Jr. said, "is something that really influenced me to come to [Milwaukee]."

Not saying hes a superstar, but if he ever did become a star, thats the attitude you want a guy to have if youre a small market team like orlando
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Post#224 » by The Effect » Fri Dec 17, 2021 11:00 pm

Skin wrote:

First video reminds me of watching RJ Hampton.

You know........I didnt really notice that, but now that you mention it........yeah, very similar
Not saying that in a bad way, i really like RJ and still think he has a lot of potential to be a good player
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Post#225 » by Bensational » Sat Dec 18, 2021 5:40 am

Chet and Jabari are my early standouts. Either one would help us lock our front court for the future - health pending.

WCJ/Isaac + Franz + Chet/Jabari would be a tough match up for most front courts I think.
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Post#226 » by Knightro » Sun Dec 19, 2021 3:15 am

Jaden Ivey was 6-6 from three today. Lifting his 3PT% to .462 for the season.

Sample size is still relatively small, only 52 attempts, but it's getting larger by the game. His form looks flingy to me, but he's making threes off the dribble, so I dunno what to think really.

He's only .727 from the line, so there are some indications it might not be real, but it's something I'm definitely going to keep monitoring.

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Post#227 » by thelead » Sun Dec 19, 2021 4:22 am

Knightro wrote:Jaden Ivey was 6-6 from three today. Lifting his 3PT% to .462 for the season.

Sample size is still relatively small, only 52 attempts, but it's getting larger by the game. His form looks flingy to me, but he's making threes off the dribble, so I dunno what to think really.

He's only .727 from the line, so there are some indications it might not be real, but it's something I'm definitely going to keep monitoring.



I don’t trust that shot yet but I’m not in love with anyone in this draft yet either. I love the energy he plays with and his speed. He’s got the ‘it’ factor.
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Post#229 » by BCS » Sun Dec 19, 2021 1:52 pm

Really like that Hardy is showing some life recently and better yet he is improving as he gains more experience that is very important to me.

Still not at the top of my board but if he keeps it up he will be.

So far I am most intrigued by Smith, Ivey and Mathurin. Not really impressed with Chet nor Paolo. Chet seems like a 50 50 to me, either a homerun or a top bust and if that is the case I can pass. And Paolo has just been underwhelming recently, still early though.

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Post#230 » by basketballRob » Sun Dec 19, 2021 1:54 pm

Next year's draft is nowhere near this one. This year could end up being the best draft ever and we had 2 top 8 picks.

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Post#231 » by RichCollab » Sun Dec 19, 2021 3:37 pm

I go for a chance at a home run every time.
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Post#232 » by Skybox » Sun Dec 19, 2021 5:11 pm

My ideal would be to package our top 3 pick with some significant pieces (CHI/DEN picks, TPE, Harris...?) for a young star like Jaylen Brown or SGA and, somehow come away with Patrick Baldwin (or whoever emerges by then) in a trade down.

I haven't really followed NCAA this year...is Baldwin a Ryan Anderson-type or more complete offensively? I love a shooter.
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Post#233 » by zaymon » Sun Dec 19, 2021 5:18 pm

BCS wrote:Really like that Hardy is showing some life recently and better yet he is improving as he gains more experience that is very important to me.

Still not at the top of my board but if he keeps it up he will be.

So far I am most intrigued by Smith, Ivey and Mathurin. Not really impressed with Chet nor Paolo. Chet seems like a 50 50 to me, either a homerun or a top bust and if that is the case I can pass. And Paolo has just been underwhelming recently, still early though.

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I dont know if Holmgren has high bust potential, not with his motor, skill level and instincts. His frame can prevent him from playing center, but i think he can always exceel in Mobley/Bamba rim protecting role. He is more fluid and with quicker feet than Bamba so i guess Bamba is below his floor ?
My money is on Banchero going number 1 !
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Post#234 » by DSN1423 » Mon Dec 20, 2021 2:07 am

What is the overall general consensus on Jaden Hardy?

The more I watch the more I feel, if we fall out of the top 3, we got to go with a skillset like Jaden Hardy.

We rave about Cole's offensive ability and our desperate need for someone to create offense for themselves and others.

He seems to fit the bill the most out of all projected lottery picks.

Or do we just go for the BPA or highest upside approach again?
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Post#235 » by Rayshard7 » Mon Dec 20, 2021 6:11 am

DSN1423 wrote:What is the overall general consensus on Jaden Hardy?

The more I watch the more I feel, if we fall out of the top 3, we got to go with a skillset like Jaden Hardy.

We rave about Cole's offensive ability and our desperate need for someone to create offense for themselves and others.

He seems to fit the bill the most out of all projected lottery picks.

Or do we just go for the BPA or highest upside approach again?


He is a poor decision maker, forces so many tough shots, is a bad defender and really just isos a lot. Plays like RJ Hampton in a way no feel whatsoever and is a poor finisher.

Jaden Ivey is way better than Hardy. Also, Paolo would be my 1st choice with Jabari 2nd. Paolo is the only 1 out of the top 3 who will be a ball handler and shot creator. Jabari is the better shooter but needs to work on finishing and Chet will be like a glue guy on offense. We need the go to guy and Paolo is the closest in this draft. His ability to grab the board and push it in transition will be lethal in NBA and next to our guys.
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Post#236 » by DSN1423 » Mon Dec 20, 2021 1:21 pm

Rayshard7 wrote:
DSN1423 wrote:What is the overall general consensus on Jaden Hardy?

The more I watch the more I feel, if we fall out of the top 3, we got to go with a skillset like Jaden Hardy.

We rave about Cole's offensive ability and our desperate need for someone to create offense for themselves and others.

He seems to fit the bill the most out of all projected lottery picks.

Or do we just go for the BPA or highest upside approach again?


He is a poor decision maker, forces so many tough shots, is a bad defender and really just isos a lot. Plays like RJ Hampton in a way no feel whatsoever and is a poor finisher.

Jaden Ivey is way better than Hardy. Also, Paolo would be my 1st choice with Jabari 2nd. Paolo is the only 1 out of the top 3 who will be a ball handler and shot creator. Jabari is the better shooter but needs to work on finishing and Chet will be like a glue guy on offense. We need the go to guy and Paolo is the closest in this draft. His ability to grab the board and push it in transition will be lethal in NBA and next to our guys.


Sounds like Cole more than RJ. I just happen to think his skills will translate to the NBA in time as he matures.

Ivey gives me Suggs of this years shooting guards vibes with the comparable high character, elite athleticism, lacks polish with offensive skills, good decision maker l, thrives in transition and mainly relies on speed and quickness to beat opponents.

For whatever reason I’d go with Hardy or Ivey if I had to choose.

Paolo is clearly our most ready prospect and I hope we get him but I have a sinking feeling that we will end up with the 5th or 6th pick again and miss out there.
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Post#237 » by basketballRob » Mon Dec 20, 2021 1:51 pm

For some reason Paolo gives me Jabari Parker vibe. He's another undersized PF and doesn't put up good defensive stats because of his lack of length. I don't buy that he suddenly grew to 6'10" before the season. He's closer to 6'8" with a 7' wingspan, the same size as AG.

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Post#238 » by drsd » Mon Dec 20, 2021 3:58 pm

Skybox wrote:My ideal would be to package our top 3 pick with some significant pieces (CHI/DEN picks, TPE, Harris...?) for a young star like Jaylen Brown or SGA and, somehow come away with Patrick Baldwin (or whoever emerges by then) in a trade down.

I haven't really followed NCAA this year...is Baldwin a Ryan Anderson-type or more complete offensively? I love a shooter.


For me this is the only possible positive that can come from this dumpster-fire of a season. Orlando does not need a top-player in what looks to be a weak draft up-top. Finding a team that is trying to retool is a great idea. And the Brown idea in particular makes a great deal of sense. I do not think that TPE and a high first and the CHI/DEN picks is enough for Brown. Orlando might need to add Okeke. And absorb more salary.

So: Al Horford and Jaylen Brown in two linked trades for TPE, the Denver pick and Harris, and then Brown for the Magic 2022 FRP, the Chi pick, and Okeke. Frankly that trade makes a lot of sense to me for both teams.

I guess Boston might get more for Horford outright, rather than trying to free up FA funds.


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Post#239 » by Magic_Johnny12 » Mon Dec 20, 2021 4:52 pm

basketballRob wrote:For some reason Paolo gives me Jabari Parker vibe. He's another undersized PF and doesn't put up good defensive stats because of his lack of length. I don't buy that he suddenly grew to 6'10" before the season. He's closer to 6'8" with a 7' wingspan, the same size as AG.

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Yup, no thanks. This along with some off-court issues, I'm completely okay picking Smith/Chet given the opportunity.

Just seems like his success is predicated for being bigger and stronger than his opponents and will NOT translate as good as people think in the NBA.
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Post#240 » by Magic_Kingdom » Mon Dec 20, 2021 8:00 pm

drsd wrote:
Skybox wrote:My ideal would be to package our top 3 pick with some significant pieces (CHI/DEN picks, TPE, Harris...?) for a young star like Jaylen Brown or SGA and, somehow come away with Patrick Baldwin (or whoever emerges by then) in a trade down.

I haven't really followed NCAA this year...is Baldwin a Ryan Anderson-type or more complete offensively? I love a shooter.


For me this is the only possible positive that can come from this dumpster-fire of a season. Orlando does not need a top-player in what looks to be a weak draft up-top. Finding a team that is trying to retool is a great idea. And the Brown idea in particular makes a great deal of sense. I do not think that TPE and a high first and the CHI/DEN picks is enough for Brown. Orlando might need to add Okeke. And absorb more salary.

So: Al Horford and Jaylen Brown in two linked trades for TPE, the Denver pick and Harris, and then Brown for the Magic 2022 FRP, the Chi pick, and Okeke. Frankly that trade makes a lot of sense to me for both teams.

I guess Boston might get more for Horford outright, rather than trying to free up FA funds.


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I'm with you, I would trade this pick. If Holmgren and Banchero are the top 2 prospects, no thanks.

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