Official Scottie Barnes Thread

[LoveMyRaps]

[Ell Curry]

His passing was next level against an admittedly G-League warriors squad tonight. Jokic-esque at times with the water polo touch pass and some of the skip passes. We just need to surround him with guys who can shoot and attack close outs and make good decisions and we should really have something. I do wonder if playing at the 4 instead of the 3 is going to be big for him in terms of having space in the lane to be a scoring threat and draw attention so he can bully defenders to score and draw help for passes.

If so, dealing Siakam to a contender for a younger shooting wing or a center and then the 2022 draft pick being the other seems like the obvious way to go, and if no decent offer comes, I'd be intrigued by us paying up with our first for Miles Turner to give us a stretch 5 so that Siakam can get more chances to cut without a center clogging the lane. Precious shot it okay tonight, but his overall bball IQ and rim protection on D are so lacking that it's gonna take an incredible amount of development for him to fill that role, though Masai must think he's up to it to have given up 20M in cap space for him.

We have 3 of the top 25 guys in 3pt makes per game in OG, Trent and Van Vleet. That should give him a lot of space to operate inside the arc.

It's crazy he has a lower assist rate than Siakam despite being 3x the passer.

[MikeM]

His passing was next level against an admittedly G-League warriors squad tonight. Jokic-esque at times with the water polo touch pass and some of the skip passes. We just need to surround him with guys who can shoot and attack close outs and make good decisions and we should really have something. I do wonder if playing at the 4 instead of the 3 is going to be big for him in terms of having space in the lane to be a scoring threat and draw attention so he can bully defenders to score and draw help for passes.

If so, dealing Siakam to a contender for a younger shooting wing or a center and then the 2022 draft pick being the other seems like the obvious way to go, and if no decent offer comes, I'd be intrigued by us paying up with our first for Miles Turner to give us a stretch 5 so that Siakam can get more chances to cut without a center clogging the lane. Precious shot it okay tonight, but his overall bball IQ and rim protection on D are so lacking that it's gonna take an incredible amount of development for him to fill that role, though Masai must think he's up to it to have given up 20M in cap space for him.

We have 3 of the top 25 guys in 3pt makes per game in OG, Trent and Van Vleet. That should give him a lot of space to operate inside the arc.

It's crazy he has a lower assist rate than Siakam despite being 3x the passer.

A stretch 5 would help everyone. But I really think we should try to develop Scottie as a backcourt player. His advantages are not as big at the 4.

You want him being checked by guys like Chiozza. Then it's really bully ball. That's the mismatch Barnes presents. He can guard smalls but they can't guard him. And he can pass literally right over them. It's really like if Ben Simmons could shoot.

You lose that a bit at the 4, IMO.

[Reeko]

I'm looking up articles about Scottie at Montverde and came across something interesting. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but in interviews that Leonard Hamilton has done he has claimed that he told Scottie he wanted him to run the point. The way I remember it is Leonard saying that he put the idea of Scottie being a PG into Scottie's head.

But in this article I read, Scottie's been wanting to run the point since high school and in fact allowing him to run the point was a big factor in choosing what school he ultimately went to.

Some more interesting things, Scottie ran the point on his AAU team and averaged 7 assists per game doing it, while having a 3-1 A-TO ratio. Cade also ran the point and averaged 5 assists per game and had a 2-1 ratio, and Sharife Cooper averaged 8 assists with a 1.5-1 ratio.

Ultimately, I don't know how much the title of "Point Guard" means to him, but it's clear that whatever position they play him at he wants to run the offense.

[Basketball_Jones]

Scottie has now been pretty integrated with Fred/OG/Siakam. The chemistry is there. Ultimately I feel Scottie/OG/Siakam at the 2/3/4 gives us the highest ceiling. But I’m still undecided between Siakam and Gary. Masai and Bobby will make the right call I think

[AbC?]

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Some of his one handed passes were just ridiculous tonight. The cross-court skip to OG was Doncic-esque.

[Madhouse]

We got 24 months to figure out the roster especially the bench. In 2 years Scottie will be one of the best players in the league.

[Arman_tanzarian]

His passing was next level against an admittedly G-League warriors squad tonight. Jokic-esque at times with the water polo touch pass and some of the skip passes. We just need to surround him with guys who can shoot and attack close outs and make good decisions and we should really have something. I do wonder if playing at the 4 instead of the 3 is going to be big for him in terms of having space in the lane to be a scoring threat and draw attention so he can bully defenders to score and draw help for passes.

If so, dealing Siakam to a contender for a younger shooting wing or a center and then the 2022 draft pick being the other seems like the obvious way to go, and if no decent offer comes, I'd be intrigued by us paying up with our first for Miles Turner to give us a stretch 5 so that Siakam can get more chances to cut without a center clogging the lane. Precious shot it okay tonight, but his overall bball IQ and rim protection on D are so lacking that it's gonna take an incredible amount of development for him to fill that role, though Masai must think he's up to it to have given up 20M in cap space for him.

We have 3 of the top 25 guys in 3pt makes per game in OG, Trent and Van Vleet. That should give him a lot of space to operate inside the arc.

It's crazy he has a lower assist rate than Siakam despite being 3x the passer.

A stretch 5 would help everyone. But I really think we should try to develop Scottie as a backcourt player. His advantages are not as big at the 4.

You want him being checked by guys like Chiozza. Then it's really bully ball. That's the mismatch Barnes presents. He can guard smalls but they can't guard him. And he can pass literally right over them. It's really like if Ben Simmons could shoot.

You lose that a bit at the 4, IMO.

No team is going to allow small players to guard him, outside of when we successfully hunt mismatches. NBA defenses are more advanced than we give them credit for..

[Tha Cynic]

The great thing about Scottie is that you can play him at any position other than maybe the 5. He's so good inside, today's bigs can't outmuscle him. If they play him in the backcourt, he has already shown he can be an elite playmaker down the line and he's already dominating mismatches inside.

He's one of those players who will just dominate wherever you play him. I do notice that he tends to be a bit more unselfish when played in the backcourt though as he seems to take on more of a passing mindset than when he's in the frontcourt. I think you want him to be that aggressive guy you see inside. In the end, he's probably best used off ball the majority of the time and then at the point when you want to spell him a bit.

Running the ball through him rather than him initiating seems to bring out a world of opportunities, whether it's his shooting or passing. Watching this guy play is more fun than watching a highlight reel dunker. He's so smart and he's so good at everything.

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Some of his one handed passes were just ridiculous tonight. The cross-court skip to OG was Doncic-esque.

Champagnie robbed him of 2 assists!

[PhilBlackson]

Jokic-esque at times with the water polo touch pass and some of the skip passes.

This is exactly what it made me start thinking...it was reminding me of Jokic.

Scottie's ceiling is seriously ridiculous.

He's shown flashes in his game of literally some of the best players to have ever played the game ie/ Magic, Jokic, Kawhi, Pippen even a bit of Giannis. It reminds me of when people seen Embiid showing flashes of Hakeem, eventually it became the norm and now he's just a truly dominant C (can't stay healthy is what ruins it). But the fact he's showing these "flashes", like Joel, it's only a matter of time before the game slows down, his bball knowledge/skill increases (which is seemingly exponentially), we develop tfo him and these "flashes" become his norm.

I'm almost mindblown when it feels like week by week, game by game Scottie has added something to his game. His highlight reel for this season is already crazy. There are very few things I haven't seen him do on the court aside from maybe launch logo 3s lol he ALREADY has an unbelievably diversified scoring ability, true 3 level scorer and it's not even halfway through YEAR ONE. His development is gonna be ridiculous. A month ago I was just hoping one day he can become a top 10 player but his rate of growth (nvm how we're not talking about how physically strong he's going to become), now I'm almost certain, it's not IF but WHEN.

[OakleyDokely]

Scottie's position is basketball court

[ItsDanger]

[Psubs]

Jokic-esque at times with the water polo touch pass and some of the skip passes.

This is exactly what it made me start thinking...it was reminding me of Jokic.

Scottie's ceiling is seriously ridiculous.

He's shown flashes in his game of literally some of the best players to have ever played the game ie/ Magic, Jokic, Kawhi, Pippen even a bit of Giannis. It reminds me of when people seen Embiid showing flashes of Hakeem, eventually it became the norm and now he's just a truly dominant C (can't stay healthy is what ruins it). But the fact he's showing these "flashes", like Joel, it's only a matter of time before the game slows down, his bball knowledge/skill increases (which is seemingly exponentially), we develop tfo him and these "flashes" become his norm.

I'm almost mindblown when it feels like week by week, game by game Scottie has added something to his game. His highlight reel for this season is already crazy. There are very few things I haven't seen him do on the court aside from maybe launch logo 3s lol he ALREADY has an unbelievably diversified scoring ability, true 3 level scorer and it's not even halfway through YEAR ONE. His development is gonna be ridiculous. A month ago I was just hoping one day he can become a top 10 player but his rate of growth (nvm how we're not talking about how physically strong he's going to become), now I'm almost certain, it's not IF but WHEN.

Magic Johnson seems like a good comp now.

[TNRaps4life]

Scottie’s upside is unreal. Imagine a summer lab of shooting and ball handling. Sheesh.

[TNRaps4life]

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[Basketball_Jones]

Mobley taking rookie of the month was a crime. Scottie is really separating himself now though.

[microjacklin]

Don't vcare about the ROY
But with Scottie's improvement rate,
I would like to have playoff this year even it means lower draft #

I can't image how Scottie will improve after his 1st playoff , the playoff is complete different game style than regular games

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[Bruin]

Zero level scorer

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[MikeM]

His passing was next level against an admittedly G-League warriors squad tonight. Jokic-esque at times with the water polo touch pass and some of the skip passes. We just need to surround him with guys who can shoot and attack close outs and make good decisions and we should really have something. I do wonder if playing at the 4 instead of the 3 is going to be big for him in terms of having space in the lane to be a scoring threat and draw attention so he can bully defenders to score and draw help for passes.

If so, dealing Siakam to a contender for a younger shooting wing or a center and then the 2022 draft pick being the other seems like the obvious way to go, and if no decent offer comes, I'd be intrigued by us paying up with our first for Miles Turner to give us a stretch 5 so that Siakam can get more chances to cut without a center clogging the lane. Precious shot it okay tonight, but his overall bball IQ and rim protection on D are so lacking that it's gonna take an incredible amount of development for him to fill that role, though Masai must think he's up to it to have given up 20M in cap space for him.

We have 3 of the top 25 guys in 3pt makes per game in OG, Trent and Van Vleet. That should give him a lot of space to operate inside the arc.

It's crazy he has a lower assist rate than Siakam despite being 3x the passer.

A stretch 5 would help everyone. But I really think we should try to develop Scottie as a backcourt player. His advantages are not as big at the 4.

You want him being checked by guys like Chiozza. Then it's really bully ball. That's the mismatch Barnes presents. He can guard smalls but they can't guard him. And he can pass literally right over them. It's really like if Ben Simmons could shoot.

You lose that a bit at the 4, IMO.

No team is going to allow small players to guard him, outside of when we successfully hunt mismatches. NBA defenses are more advanced than we give them credit for..

Haha ya, that's kind of the whole point. If Barnes is in your backcourt then they have to put the small guy on Anunoby or Siakam.