Official Scottie Barnes Thread

[LoveMyRaps]

Imagine a Raps vs. Cavs first round series.... Barnes vs. Mobley to re-ignite that old team rivalry.
I'd heavily favor us against the Cavs in the playoffs as well. Would be super fun to watch.

[Bruin]

Imagine a Raps vs. Cavs first round series.... Barnes vs. Mobley to re-ignite that old team rivalry.
I'd heavily favor us against the Cavs in the playoffs as well. Would be super fun to watch.

Ngl that would be fun as hell. Even though I’m pro tank, if something like this were to happen I’d be hyped

[gbball]

Don't vcare about the ROY
But with Scottie's improvement rate,
I would like to have playoff this year even it means lower draft #

I can't image how Scottie will improve after his 1st playoff , the playoff is complete different game style than regular games

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I agree, with the rate at which he's improving the last thing you want is for him to think things are too easy. I want constant obstacles/motivation in front of him so he has to keep getting better to reach his potential.

The similarities to the emergence of Vince are uncanny. They both had a mindblowing development curve where it looks like they are adding facets to their games on a weekly basis.

Where it went wrong with Vince imo, is that he had a lot of success quickly and was basically the most popular player in the entire league by his 2nd season without doing anything of substance in the playoffs. Him being the heir apparent to Jordan was widely accepted...He'd basically made it and lost some of that incentive to grow his game.

So this time arounds, I'd rather Barnes get slept on a bit, and not get the same fanfare as a guy like Vince got so quickly for his nightly highlights and instead have him learn that you get all the eyeballs when you go deep in the playoffs and that that's where you can really make a name for yourself as a player. Because as you said, the playoffs are a totally different animal and there are definitely lessons to be learned for this young group.

[HumbleRen]

I know it was the Warriors but the team just looked so much more sense with Scottie at the 4 and having 4 shooters surrounding him.

Instead of Boucher, just imagine Turner replacing him.

FVV
GTJ
OG
Barnes
Turner

That line up would fully unleash Barnes by utilizing all of his strengths.

[Los_29]

I know it was the Warriors but the team just looked so much more sense with Scottie at the 4 and having 4 shooters surrounding him.

Instead of Boucher, just imagine Turner replacing him.

FVV
GTJ
OG
Barnes
Turner

That line up would fully unleash Barnes by utilizing all of his strengths.

If you wanted shooters around Scottie then why would we replace Pascal with a worse shooter?

Guys, this has been discussed already. Turner has very little value around the league. If he’s dealt he’s getting dealt for bench players and heavily protected picks. He’s not getting dealt for all-star caliber players.

[DreamTeam09]

He dribbles and moves way better than OG but OG shoots way better than him. I never thought OG would ever be a legit 20ppg scorer, but it looks like he's developed himself into that. SB has all the tools to be better than OG, a little earlier too. It all comes down to that jumper

[Los_29]

There is a possibility that Scottie is our best player next year. Never thought I’d say that. He’s a complete stud.

[B-Ball Freak]

This kid is developing way faster than anybody would've thought, his midrange game is already good, he's shooting 35% from 3 which is decent, he's already got a couple of post moves that consistently gets him buckets. Add to that he's starting to become a terror defensively, is a beast at rebounding the ball but the most impressive thing about him to me is his court vision and passing ability...we got our guy, a superstar in the making.

[B-Ball Freak]

There is a possibility that Scottie is our best player next year. Never thought I’d say that. He’s a complete stud.

I agree, I think there's a good chance of that happening and thats with FVV, OG, and Siakam on the team...just incredible.

[CANsportsguru]

There is a possibility that Scottie is our best player next year. Never thought I’d say that. He’s a complete stud.

I would say with absolute confidence barring any injury setbacks between now and then he absolutely will be our best player at the beginning of next season if not by the end of this.

[Madhouse]

The most exciting thing about Scottie Barnes is that he was part of the only class so far in NBA history that had to fully play through the Covid year in college. Less games, less practices, much less development. That Suggs and Green have been struggling should not surprise given they had less time to develop than any other rookie class before NBA.

Barnes shouldn't be where he is right now, he really shouldn't. It defies logic.

The only explanation for this drastic improvement in such a short period of time can be that he wants it more badly than Masai, he wants it more badly than any ever wearing the Raptors uniform. The Raptors developmental system is great but no system in the world can replace the inner drive of a person. The OG and Siakam developments over the years make sense, this one doesn't.

I was a Barnes fan but did not have a problem with those not wanting him because he did not look overly impressive in college and could not shoot.

He is 2 months into his NBA career only and doing things people thought were not possible for several more years if ever.

We might have drafted a true basketball savant.

[TNRaps4life]

There is a possibility that Scottie is our best player next year. Never thought I’d say that. He’s a complete stud.

I would say with absolute confidence barring any injury setbacks between now and then he absolutely will be our best player at the beginning of next season if not by the end of this.

He is already our best player.

[Los_29]

There is a possibility that Scottie is our best player next year. Never thought I’d say that. He’s a complete stud.

I would say with absolute confidence barring any injury setbacks between now and then he absolutely will be our best player at the beginning of next season if not by the end of this.

He is already our best player.

He definitely is not. In fact, not even really close at this point.

[Indeed]

I know it was the Warriors but the team just looked so much more sense with Scottie at the 4 and having 4 shooters surrounding him.

Instead of Boucher, just imagine Turner replacing him.

FVV
GTJ
OG
Barnes
Turner

That line up would fully unleash Barnes by utilizing all of his strengths.

If you wanted shooters around Scottie then why would we replace Pascal with a worse shooter?

Guys, this has been discussed already. Turner has very little value around the league. If he’s dealt he’s getting dealt for bench players and heavily protected picks. He’s not getting dealt for all-star caliber players.

And what exactly Barnes is a 4?
Barnes seems to be playing 3, and he is also listed as a 3 the last game with OG being the 4.

The biggest question is, why do we play Barnes at 4 with less advantage than playing him at 3 with more mis-match to put him into success. Is there a reason why he is not a 3?

[HumbleRen]

I know it was the Warriors but the team just looked so much more sense with Scottie at the 4 and having 4 shooters surrounding him.

Instead of Boucher, just imagine Turner replacing him.

FVV
GTJ
OG
Barnes
Turner

That line up would fully unleash Barnes by utilizing all of his strengths.

If you wanted shooters around Scottie then why would we replace Pascal with a worse shooter?

Guys, this has been discussed already. Turner has very little value around the league. If he’s dealt he’s getting dealt for bench players and heavily protected picks. He’s not getting dealt for all-star caliber players.

And what exactly Barnes is a 4?
Barnes seems to be playing 3, and he is also listed as a 3 the last game with OG being the 4.

The biggest question is, why do we play Barnes at 4 with less advantage than playing him at 3 with more mis-match to put him into success. Is there a reason why he is not a 3?

Dumb this down for me, I'm honestly having a hard time understanding what you're exactly saying lol

[Sanyo]

Barnes will be our first supermax player lol

[BryceMaxJames]

There is a possibility that Scottie is our best player next year. Never thought I’d say that. He’s a complete stud.

He already is our best player.

[CANsportsguru]

The most exciting thing about Scottie Barnes is that he was part of the only class so far in NBA history that had to fully play through the Covid year in college. Less games, less practices, much less development. That Suggs and Green have been struggling should not surprise given they had less time to develop than any other rookie class before NBA.

Barnes shouldn't be where he is right now, he really shouldn't. It defies logic.

The only explanation for this drastic improvement in such a short period of time can be that he wants it more badly than Masai, he wants it more badly than any ever wearing the Raptors uniform. The Raptors developmental system is great but no system in the world can replace the inner drive of a person. The OG and Siakam developments over the years make sense, this one doesn't.

I was a Barnes fan but did not have a problem with those not wanting him because he did not look overly impressive in college and could not shoot.

He is 2 months into his NBA career only and doing things people thought were not possible for several more years if ever.

We might have drafted a true basketball savant.

This is a very good take. I was team Suggs pre draft I was aware of Barnes but thought he was a reach at #4 given that he was very raw in college. So his development between college and the Raptors pre-draft workout where the reports are that he shot the lights out was already a huge leap. The rate at which he's improving at is very, very rare.

[Madhouse]

I would say with absolute confidence barring any injury setbacks between now and then he absolutely will be our best player at the beginning of next season if not by the end of this.

He is already our best player.

He definitely is not. In fact, not even really close at this point.

2nd best according to Raptor.

[JShuttlesworth]

Scottie seems to be building his confidence, a couple of the passes he threw last night were unbelievable

It's too bad our players couldn't finish (I believe JC missed a layup under the net off a nice pass in transition, and Yuta bricked a three off a one handed rebound / pass from Scottie)