2021-22 Season Discussion and Speculation

[Ghost of Kleine]

Matt Petersen (@TheMattPetersen) Tweeted:
The defending Western Conference champion Phoenix Suns are in first place https://t.co/eST9mi4IPQ

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[Ghost of Kleine]

FLEX From Jersey (@FlexFromJersey) Tweeted:
Based on the info I've received Suns will have options to add a quality player to their rotation without giving up much as a 3rd team in a bigger trade. I'm told they could be the difference maker financially in various deals involving high profile players! Waiting on right deal!

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FLEX From Jersey (@FlexFromJersey) Tweeted:
The Suns are in a very opportunistic position with the Contracts of Dario Saric, Jalen Smith and Abdel Nader. Team's looking for that home run swing involving high profile players could need these contracts to get the deal done. Suns patiently waiting in a position of strength.

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[timetoshinebaby]

So time to start rosterbating over players where there teams are looking to make bigger deals.

[SunsRback4Good]

Matt Petersen (@TheMattPetersen) Tweeted:
The defending Western Conference champion Phoenix Suns are in first place https://t.co/eST9mi4IPQ

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Nice, just where we belong. Would love home court advantage throughout the playoffs especially against the Warriors.

[BobbieL]

FLEX From Jersey (@FlexFromJersey) Tweeted:
Based on the info I've received Suns will have options to add a quality player to their rotation without giving up much as a 3rd team in a bigger trade. I'm told they could be the difference maker financially in various deals involving high profile players! Waiting on right deal!

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FLEX From Jersey (@FlexFromJersey) Tweeted:
The Suns are in a very opportunistic position with the Contracts of Dario Saric, Jalen Smith and Abdel Nader. Team's looking for that home run swing involving high profile players could need these contracts to get the deal done. Suns patiently waiting in a position of strength.

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I wonder if Flex realizes that Nader has an interesting contract
1) need his approval for a trade
2) he would lose his bird-rights this summer

Granted, with Payton in the fold, he can be traded so Saric and Payton for Young works now cap wise where the Suns didn't have that minimum level contract this summer - Suns could also send $3m in cash and a 2RP and the Spurs would be financially pretty even with losing the Young salary but getting some money for Saric next season

[BobbieL]

Matt Petersen (@TheMattPetersen) Tweeted:
The defending Western Conference champion Phoenix Suns are in first place https://t.co/eST9mi4IPQ

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Nice, just where we belong. Would love home court advantage throughout the playoffs especially against the Warriors.

For me, the Suns just need to be in a different bracket than the Warriors. Get them in the finals and not the semi-finals of the WCF

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As for rosterbation ideas with the contracts of Saric, Smith, Nader, Payton, maybe draft picks - I still think more role player. I am not sure Gordon is the right fit. I am still worth giving Shamet some more play to see if he can improve the 3 point %.

Craig for Smith works cap wise

I am not sure Flex has heard of any real multiple team trades the Suns might be involved with as the third or 4th team in.

[Bogyo]

FLEX From Jersey (@FlexFromJersey) Tweeted:
Based on the info I've received Suns will have options to add a quality player to their rotation without giving up much as a 3rd team in a bigger trade. I'm told they could be the difference maker financially in various deals involving high profile players! Waiting on right deal!

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FLEX From Jersey (@FlexFromJersey) Tweeted:
The Suns are in a very opportunistic position with the Contracts of Dario Saric, Jalen Smith and Abdel Nader. Team's looking for that home run swing involving high profile players could need these contracts to get the deal done. Suns patiently waiting in a position of strength.

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I wonder if Flex realizes that Nader has an interesting contract
1) need his approval for a trade
2) he would lose his bird-rights this summer

Granted, with Payton in the fold, he can be traded so Saric and Payton for Young works now cap wise where the Suns didn't have that minimum level contract this summer - Suns could also send $3m in cash and a 2RP and the Spurs would be financially pretty even with losing the Young salary but getting some money for Saric next season

I don't think Flex realizes anything without the fact hitting him right in the mouth. Please don't quote him.

[Mulhollanddrive]

Was looking at Harrison Barnes but think our salary situation would get blown out for next season, maybe if he's super cheap trade wise we could get him for a playoff run and deal with a cap move in the off-season. We'd be pretty stacked:

Paul, Booker, Bridges, Barnes, Ayton
Payne, Johnson, Crowder, McGee

[Ghost of Kleine]

FLEX From Jersey (@FlexFromJersey) Tweeted:
Based on the info I've received Suns will have options to add a quality player to their rotation without giving up much as a 3rd team in a bigger trade. I'm told they could be the difference maker financially in various deals involving high profile players! Waiting on right deal!

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FLEX From Jersey (@FlexFromJersey) Tweeted:
The Suns are in a very opportunistic position with the Contracts of Dario Saric, Jalen Smith and Abdel Nader. Team's looking for that home run swing involving high profile players could need these contracts to get the deal done. Suns patiently waiting in a position of strength.

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I wonder if Flex realizes that Nader has an interesting contract
1) need his approval for a trade
2) he would lose his bird-rights this summer

Granted, with Payton in the fold, he can be traded so Saric and Payton for Young works now cap wise where the Suns didn't have that minimum level contract this summer - Suns could also send $3m in cash and a 2RP and the Spurs would be financially pretty even with losing the Young salary but getting some money for Saric next season

I don't think Flex realizes anything without the fact hitting him right in the mouth. Please don't quote him.

Yeah I hear ya!
Flex is like the Broadway version of Gambo. But with his only real sources being whatever he can glean from Hoopshype, Bleacher report, Sportscenter!
To this point I find his posts satirical and more of an amuse' Bouche to actual credentialed information. Somewhat grating to some, and head shaking idiot humor to others. It does help stimulate conversation when things get slow on board though.

[bwgood77]

Spoiler:

FLEX From Jersey (@FlexFromJersey) Tweeted:
Based on the info I've received Suns will have options to add a quality player to their rotation without giving up much as a 3rd team in a bigger trade. I'm told they could be the difference maker financially in various deals involving high profile players! Waiting on right deal!

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FLEX From Jersey (@FlexFromJersey) Tweeted:
The Suns are in a very opportunistic position with the Contracts of Dario Saric, Jalen Smith and Abdel Nader. Team's looking for that home run swing involving high profile players could need these contracts to get the deal done. Suns patiently waiting in a position of strength.

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I wonder if Flex realizes that Nader has an interesting contract
1) need his approval for a trade
2) he would lose his bird-rights this summer

Granted, with Payton in the fold, he can be traded so Saric and Payton for Young works now cap wise where the Suns didn't have that minimum level contract this summer - Suns could also send $3m in cash and a 2RP and the Spurs would be financially pretty even with losing the Young salary but getting some money for Saric next season

Just curious when people come up with deals for Young, so we trade for him rather than maybe get him buyout later.

Do you think the Spurs would rather save $3-4 million on a buyout (say Young knows he can get that much from his next team, so no loss to him)...or would rather get Payton and a year of recovering Saric as a rebuilding team rather than cap space when they will already have quite a bit, so more could give them room for potential big signings?

And how many minutes do you think we would tell him he could get if lets say we are competing on a buyout market vs say the Warriors, Lakers, Clippers?

I think if you consider not playing ANY starters with bench players much, or eating into their minutes, you say 20+ at backup PF, but if you are giving all 48 to him and Crowder, then you are giving only 48 total to Bridges and Cam.

Last season in the playoffs Monty leaned on Crowder a ton. Seems like he often was like top 2 in minutes and Monty kept saying he was too hard to take out.

I hope we get him via buyout but I just wonder/think GS could offer him a lot of minutes...basically a third big along with Green and Looney, ahead of Wiseman and maybe start over Looney. Clips could start him if Serge isn't back or maybe if he is. Then the Lakers could start him and could have injuries anyway.

It will be interesting to see what happens with him. Enjoy the NFL game on Thursday?

[bwgood77]

Seems like every year people bring up "maybe we can be a 3rd or 4th team facilitator team!" as if we have tons of assets to use and this ever really happens where you get much of value other than maybe the Cavs somehow ending up with Jarrett Allen in the Harden trade instead of Houston. That still seems ridiculous.

[Revived]

It sounds like half of the league’s players are in covid protocols. It’s only a matter of time before it hits us, Suns might be the only team in the league right now without players in protocol.

League might be heading towards a shutdown again or a 2 week pause or something along those lines.

[Calvin Klein]

for the love of god, people still following that fraud?

[bwgood77]

for the love of god, people still following that fraud?

Yeah, with the new waves and lots of people dying, they are concerned.

[BobbieL]

Spoiler:

FLEX From Jersey (@FlexFromJersey) Tweeted:
Based on the info I've received Suns will have options to add a quality player to their rotation without giving up much as a 3rd team in a bigger trade. I'm told they could be the difference maker financially in various deals involving high profile players! Waiting on right deal!

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FLEX From Jersey (@FlexFromJersey) Tweeted:
The Suns are in a very opportunistic position with the Contracts of Dario Saric, Jalen Smith and Abdel Nader. Team's looking for that home run swing involving high profile players could need these contracts to get the deal done. Suns patiently waiting in a position of strength.

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I wonder if Flex realizes that Nader has an interesting contract
1) need his approval for a trade
2) he would lose his bird-rights this summer

Granted, with Payton in the fold, he can be traded so Saric and Payton for Young works now cap wise where the Suns didn't have that minimum level contract this summer - Suns could also send $3m in cash and a 2RP and the Spurs would be financially pretty even with losing the Young salary but getting some money for Saric next season

Just curious when people come up with deals for Young, so we trade for him rather than maybe get him buyout later.

Do you think the Spurs would rather save $3-4 million on a buyout (say Young knows he can get that much from his next team, so no loss to him)...or would rather get Payton and a year of recovering Saric as a rebuilding team rather than cap space when they will already have quite a bit, so more could give them room for potential big signings?

And how many minutes do you think we would tell him he could get if lets say we are competing on a buyout market vs say the Warriors, Lakers, Clippers?

I think if you consider not playing ANY starters with bench players much, or eating into their minutes, you say 20+ at backup PF, but if you are giving all 48 to him and Crowder, then you are giving only 48 total to Bridges and Cam.

Last season in the playoffs Monty leaned on Crowder a ton. Seems like he often was like top 2 in minutes and Monty kept saying he was too hard to take out.

I hope we get him via buyout but I just wonder/think GS could offer him a lot of minutes...basically a third big along with Green and Looney, ahead of Wiseman and maybe start over Looney. Clips could start him if Serge isn't back or maybe if he is. Then the Lakers could start him and could have injuries anyway.

It will be interesting to see what happens with him. Enjoy the NFL game on Thursday?

No, I agree with you. I probably should have been clearer - now with Payton trade eligible, the Suns would not need to add Smith with Saric for Young

I also agree that it seems the Spurs could probably buyout Young for 12m -- save a couple million and not take on cap next year

[Slim Charless]

It sounds like half of the league’s players are in covid protocols. It’s only a matter of time before it hits us, Suns might be the only team in the league right now without players in protocol.

League might be heading towards a shutdown again or a 2 week pause or something along those lines.

I'm worried the league might shut down. I hope not as we look amazing and xt time off would help teams like the Dubs and LAL.

[Frank Lee]

……..

No, I agree with you. I probably should have been clearer - now with Payton trade eligible, the Suns would not need to add Smith with Saric for Young

I also agree that it seems the Spurs could probably buyout Young for 12m -- save a couple million and not take on cap next year

Thank goodness….. I was afraid we might lose him before we let him go



On other fronts, I think the biggest off season mistake made was not signing McGee to a two yr deal. May have overthunk next yr’s cap strategy.

So back to the circle, I wouldn’t be surprised if there is a focus to sluff Dario’s deal off somewheres for an expiring. But we will have to dress him up with a pick as we have nothing else ‘of value’

[Mulhollanddrive]

I like the new NBA rule of having to bring in replacement players for procotol ones, we can afford to lose a few games with g-leaguers but delaying games and piling them up later would increase injury risk leading into playoffs.

[King4Day]

Good news for Ish!

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[King4Day]

for the love of god, people still following that fraud?

Yeah, with the new waves and lots of people dying, they are concerned.

I think he's talking about Flex. Unless people are concerned for their lives when Flex tweets lol