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Re: Simmons Trade Thread - The Ocho 

Post#1881 » by Kobblehead » Sun Dec 19, 2021 5:02 pm

Lovetron Joe wrote:
Madd Squabbles wrote:
Kobblehead wrote:With all the A tier players playing like crap this year (Harden, Beal, Lillard), the B tier guys who cost less should be the focus.

And of the B tier guys (Fox, Ingram, Gilgeous-Alexander, Russell), Dlo is by far the best fit. He's the most willing spacer of the bunch and he's the most willing passer of the bunch.

Dlo remains the answer hiding in plain sight.


And he's by far the worst player and a negative asset.


DLo has regressed as a shooter with a career low FG% of .388. His shooting splits are awful. 33% from three. His per is 16.1. Win Share of 1.5. He has a checkered injury history. Iffy defender. Making over $30 million a year. He is on his 4th team for good reason.

What's Bradford shooting from three this year? Does he play defense? What's his contract looking like?
What's Dame shooting from three this year? Does he play defense? What's his contract looking like?
What's Shai shooting from three this year? Does he play defense?
Is Brandon Ingram even shooting threes this year or is he living in the mid-range? Does he play defense?
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Re: Simmons Trade Thread - The Ocho 

Post#1882 » by Kobblehead » Sun Dec 19, 2021 5:03 pm

Stanford wrote:kobblehead remains the oddest poster ever on this website

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Re: Simmons Trade Thread - The Ocho 

Post#1883 » by Slacktard » Sun Dec 19, 2021 5:16 pm

Stanford wrote:kobblehead remains the oddest poster ever on this website

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I mean there's not a "Kobblehead' thread that took over the old Simmons trade thread.
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Re: Simmons Trade Thread - The Ocho 

Post#1884 » by Lovetron Joe » Sun Dec 19, 2021 5:21 pm

Kobblehead wrote:
Lovetron Joe wrote:
Madd Squabbles wrote:
And he's by far the worst player and a negative asset.


DLo has regressed as a shooter with a career low FG% of .388. His shooting splits are awful. 33% from three. His per is 16.1. Win Share of 1.5. He has a checkered injury history. Iffy defender. Making over $30 million a year. He is on his 4th team for good reason.

What's Bradford shooting from three this year? Does he play defense? What's his contract looking like?
What's Dame shooting from three this year? Does he play defense? What's his contract looking like?
What's Shai shooting from three this year? Does he play defense?
Is Brandon Ingram even shooting threes this year or is he living in the mid-range? Does he play defense?


Guessing you could look these things up.
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Re: Simmons Trade Thread - The Ocho 

Post#1885 » by Kobblehead » Sun Dec 19, 2021 5:37 pm

OMG, I didn't realize we were 5 pages away from Part 9.

The record is 16 set by Ric Flair.
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Re: Simmons Trade Thread - The Ocho 

Post#1886 » by Rastas » Sun Dec 19, 2021 5:44 pm

Kobblehead wrote:OMG, I didn't realize we were 5 pages away from Part 9.

The record is 16 set by Ric Flair.


What about the 50 plus by R Truth
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Re: Simmons Trade Thread - The Ocho 

Post#1887 » by Kobblehead » Sun Dec 19, 2021 5:51 pm

Rastas wrote:
Kobblehead wrote:OMG, I didn't realize we were 5 pages away from Part 9.

The record is 16 set by Ric Flair.


What about the 50 plus by R Truth

50 of what? The 24/7 belt?

Damn that's impressive. R-Truth is da goat.
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Re: Simmons Trade Thread - The Ocho 

Post#1888 » by Rastas » Sun Dec 19, 2021 5:53 pm

Kobblehead wrote:
Rastas wrote:
Kobblehead wrote:OMG, I didn't realize we were 5 pages away from Part 9.

The record is 16 set by Ric Flair.


What about the 50 plus by R Truth

50 of what? The 24/7 belt?

Damn that's impressive. R-Truth is da goat.


Last I heard it was around 58 times .

Pure Comedy , similar in ways to this thread.
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Re: Simmons Trade Thread - The Ocho 

Post#1889 » by Stanford » Sun Dec 19, 2021 5:54 pm

Kobblehead wrote:The record is 16 set by Ric Flair.


Set by Ric Flair, co-held with John Cena.
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Re: Simmons Trade Thread - The Ocho 

Post#1890 » by GutUNC » Sun Dec 19, 2021 6:05 pm

Madd Squabbles wrote:What do you guys think of this trade?

Boston gets Sabonis and filler

Indy gets Simmons

Philly gets Brown


Boston needs a lot more then filler to get that done.
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Re: Simmons Trade Thread - The Ocho 

Post#1891 » by Kobblehead » Sun Dec 19, 2021 6:06 pm

Stanford wrote:
Kobblehead wrote:The record is 16 set by Ric Flair.


Set by Ric Flair, co-held with John Cena.

I didn't appreciate Cena enough when he was there.

I allowed myself to get swayed by the perpetually unhappy smarks that ruin wrestling and booed him all the time.

Cena had a good look, was great on the mic, and was perfectly a sufficient (albert vanilla) ring worker. I miss him.
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Re: Simmons Trade Thread - The Ocho 

Post#1892 » by GutUNC » Sun Dec 19, 2021 6:07 pm

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kuclas wrote:Line has already been drawn in the sand by teams interested in Simmons
Aka (we will make anyone on our roster available for Simmons as long as they are not considered part of our long terms plans
Timberwolves (Edwards/towns)
Kings (Haliburton/fox)
Portland (lillard)
Boston (brown/Tatum)
Now the pelicans (Ingram/Williamson)

Basically all we getting back are role players or McCollum if we want to do any trades. Maybe D Murray of spurs and one draft pick (I don’t think spurs want to offer any more than 2 heavily protected first round picks)


I think we would be lucky to get Murray at this point. He is playing really well and he gets better and better every year. Also, he has a great contract. Perfect player to play next to Curry. If I'm the Spurs I wouldn't do that trade.


His FG% continues to drop. All he's doing is playing more minutes and improving his assist numbers. Still can't shoot.
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Re: Simmons Trade Thread - The Ocho 

Post#1893 » by Stanford » Sun Dec 19, 2021 6:15 pm

Kobblehead wrote:Cena had a good look, was great on the mic, and was perfectly a sufficient (albert vanilla) ring worker.


He was also the only guy for around a decade that had some gravity as a main event opponent.
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Re: Simmons Trade Thread - The Ocho 

Post#1894 » by Arsenal » Sun Dec 19, 2021 7:16 pm

Kobblehead wrote:
Stanford wrote:
Kobblehead wrote:The record is 16 set by Ric Flair.


Set by Ric Flair, co-held with John Cena.

I didn't appreciate Cena enough when he was there.

I allowed myself to get swayed by the perpetually unhappy smarks that ruin wrestling and booed him all the time.

Cena had a good look, was great on the mic, and was perfectly a sufficient (albert vanilla) ring worker. I miss him.


I too appreciate John Cena more now that he's gone. Undoubtedly he was a poor man's Hulk Hogan. A couple tiers down from Hogan/Austin/Rock GOAT tier.

But compared to the trash now he looks all-world. Pro rasslin continues to go downhill...
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Re: Simmons Trade Thread - The Ocho 

Post#1895 » by Arsenal » Sun Dec 19, 2021 7:17 pm

Stanford wrote:
Kobblehead wrote:Cena had a good look, was great on the mic, and was perfectly a sufficient (albert vanilla) ring worker.


He was also the only guy for around a decade that had some gravity as a main event opponent.


That's because the senile old man in charge forgot how to make stars. So he shoved Cena down our collective throats for over a decade.
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Re: Simmons Trade Thread - The Ocho 

Post#1896 » by sixers hoops » Sun Dec 19, 2021 7:25 pm

Kobblehead wrote:
Stanford wrote:
Kobblehead wrote:The record is 16 set by Ric Flair.


Set by Ric Flair, co-held with John Cena.

I didn't appreciate Cena enough when he was there.

I allowed myself to get swayed by the perpetually unhappy smarks that ruin wrestling and booed him all the time.

Cena had a good look, was great on the mic, and was perfectly a sufficient (albert vanilla) ring worker. I miss him.


He was great, but I wouldn’t even compare him to Albert Vanilla as a ring worker.
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Re: Simmons Trade Thread - The Ocho 

Post#1897 » by Stanford » Sun Dec 19, 2021 7:27 pm

Arsenal wrote:That's because the senile old man in charge forgot how to make stars. So he shoved Cena down our collective throats for over a decade.


Oh you're one of those
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Re: Simmons Trade Thread - The Ocho 

Post#1898 » by Kobblehead » Sun Dec 19, 2021 8:31 pm

Arsenal wrote:
Stanford wrote:
Kobblehead wrote:Cena had a good look, was great on the mic, and was perfectly a sufficient (albert vanilla) ring worker.


He was also the only guy for around a decade that had some gravity as a main event opponent.


That's because the senile old man in charge forgot how to make stars. So he shoved Cena down our collective throats for over a decade.

Honestly, I can't blame him. Cena was the only guy coming up in that era that was a reliable company man. Brock was high maintenance and quit after a couple years. Orton was an immature headcase. Batista was a bit injury prone and wasn't as professional as Cena.
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Re: Simmons Trade Thread - The Ocho 

Post#1899 » by fkd215 » Sun Dec 19, 2021 9:41 pm

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He was great, but I wouldn’t even compare him to Albert Vanilla as a ring worker.


"I knew Albert Vanilla. I worked the ring with Albert Vanilla. You, sir, are no Albert Vanilla."
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Re: Simmons Trade Thread - The Ocho 

Post#1900 » by Andrew McCeltic » Sun Dec 19, 2021 11:20 pm

GutUNC wrote:
Madd Squabbles wrote:What do you guys think of this trade?

Boston gets Sabonis and filler

Indy gets Simmons

Philly gets Brown


Boston needs a lot more then filler to get that done.


Yeah, it's not just a talent question - Boston has Rob Williams and old Horford, they'd be trading for a log jam.

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