Coronavirus/COVID-19, Thread 3 (Omicron & Delta Variants)

[exculpatory]

You are in fact the disgrace based on your words and how you treat people. You have no clue about my contributions towards humanity. none. I think you're disgusting simply by how you communicate on here. I, unlike you, can co-exist with people with different medical, political, and religious views as me. In fact, I need to every day professionally. I have EVERY RIGHT to post what I want to post on this thread. This isn't a pro-vaccine coronavirus thread. I have the right to post what I want on here, as do you.

If you don't like what I have to say, ignore it. Plus, I thought you blocked me? Anyone who doesn't like what I have to say can choose not to read it.

For a long long time, I tried to patiently explain the true science to you - citing, quoting & explaining peer reviewed publications written by the best medical minds on planet earth. No insults. No bashing.
And you ignored everything I said…and continued to spout blatantly ignorant & very dangerous disinformation.
And then you exceeded my tolerance level.
You deserve to be disparaged in every possible way.
You are truly scum of the earth - a lethal & dangerous combination of stupidity, willful ignorance, hubris & arrogance.
Caveman was spot on the other day - trying to educate abject morons like you, JMR, Scarlet & a couple of others about Covid is analogous to trying to teach astrophysics to my dog.

Have you ever considered that you're wrong? Or that what you believe is a big lie?

What I believe is based on a lifetime of medical knowledge & experience.
What I believe is based on the best peer reviewed medical literature in the world - the original sources of information.
What I believe is what 99.9% of the brightest Infectious Disease, epidemiology & virology physicians & PhDs on planet earth believe.

And you - a **** ignorant & arrogant moron with ABSOLUTELY ZERO MEDICAL INSIGHT - disagree?
LOLOLOLOLOL.

[SuperDeluxe]

They are perpetuating the pandemic by allowing unfounded fear to promulgate because it is advantageous for them politically. They are monsters. It has plenty to do with Desantis/Trump. Their reticence to promote the safe and effective vaccine that they have benefited from gives oxygen to the conspiracy theories that the uneducated (like yourself) latch on to.

"gO bAcK tO yOuR iSoLaTiOn aNd KeEp LiViNg iN fEaR pLeAsE" what a horrible **** you are. I've lost multiple family members at this stage to COVID. Do you have no shame? How dare you continue to pull this bull. Do you have no heart/soul? How can you be so awful?

I distinctly remember you saying you were gonna sign off for the week. Please do.

OMG. You're like crazy liberal 101. I was simply stating a truth that the remaining unvaccinated millions are unvaccinated because it's what they believe in medically despite your whole angel bringing Ron Desantis into the thread. It's irrelevant. You clearly posted that with an agenda in mind. You clown

I hope you get it. I hope you don't survive it.

That I don't agree with.

[cl2117]

OMG. You're like crazy liberal 101. I was simply stating a truth that the remaining unvaccinated millions are unvaccinated because it's what they believe in medically despite your whole angel bringing Ron Desantis into the thread. It's irrelevant. You clearly posted that with an agenda in mind. You clown

I hope you get it. I hope you don't survive it.

That I don't agree with.

Thought about deleting it, willing to if I have to, but I stand by it.

I've lost too many loved ones at this stage. I'd rather sacrifice those unwilling to be part of the solution than any more innocent lives. It hurts too much and this fool just keeps mocking in the face of this horrific tragedy.

[SuperDeluxe]

I hope you get it. I hope you don't survive it.

That I don't agree with.

Thought about deleting it, willing to if I have to, but I stand by it.

I've lost too many loved ones at this stage. I'd rather sacrifice those unwilling to be part of the solution than any more innocent lives. It hurts too much and this fool just keeps mocking in the face of this horrific tragedy.

I can relate to that, I lost someone to covid too. And I can understand where you're coming from. But wishing this guy's death is falling onto his lap -- he has already openly acknowledged that he's here to troll pro-vax people.

[Scarletfire81]

If he's the literal inventor of such a significant technological innovation it should be easy to prove, no?

So go ahead and prove it.

His early work was involved in the development of MRNA tech, he's not the "inventor" of MRNA tech. I once worked at Red Lobster, I didn't invent lobster. There is a massive difference.

Also all his peers discredit him, that's also mentioned in almost every article about him. Did you just stop reading when it got to that part?

I’ll give you that there were many people responsible for the MRNA technology but there are articles saying he was a important contributor. Including this one:

https://www.codastory.com/newsletters/scientists-anti-vaccine/

So I’ll give you that he played a part and is not the sole inventor but that still means he knows more than mostly everyone about the vaccines.

And the other people credited with playing a larger role in the invention of the technology, especially it's current form, which has advanced drastically from his contributions in 1987, say that he's wrong and that it's not dangerous to give to children. I've cited two other articles that go into the actual contribution he made and that detail the more significant contributions made by many others.

So who are you going to believe? The vast vast majority of other doctors or the guy who falsely claims to be the sole inventor when in reality he's not even close?

Are you just gonna ignore that the consensus of thousands of more doctors who disagree? Genuine question.

They've tested it, they've studied it, they've come to a consensus agreement that it's safe. This guy wasn't even part of that process. Why are you going with what he says?

Check this out, here is an article saying he costs himself a Nobel prize. But I guess he only played a small part LOL. Just face it, once he went against the narrative he was finished.

https://techstartups.com/2021/08/12/cellular-immunologist-says-mrna-vaccine-inventor-dr-robert-malone-ruined-chances-nobel-prize-undermines-use-vaccine-invented/

[cl2117]

That I don't agree with.

Thought about deleting it, willing to if I have to, but I stand by it.

I've lost too many loved ones at this stage. I'd rather sacrifice those unwilling to be part of the solution than any more innocent lives. It hurts too much and this fool just keeps mocking in the face of this horrific tragedy.

I can relate to that, I lost someone to covid too. And I can understand where you're coming from. But wishing this guy's death is falling onto his lap -- he has already openly acknowledged that he's here to troll pro-vax people.

I'm sorry for your loss.

I don't know if it's falling into his lap as much as it's finally tipping me over the edge to no longer stand by and allow people being willfully ignorant/cruel to do so without consequences or at the very least being called out. Fact is the world would be a better place without him. We've allowed stupidity/ignorance to go unchecked too long. People need to get hit in the mouth at this stage. Literal millions are dying and it's preventable. It's a **** holocaust. What else is there to be done?

He's cancer. You don't just ignore cancer or you die. This is where we are it.

[cl2117]

I’ll give you that there were many people responsible for the MRNA technology but there are articles saying he was a important contributor. Including this one:

https://www.codastory.com/newsletters/scientists-anti-vaccine/

So I’ll give you that he played a part and is not the sole inventor but that still means he knows more than mostly everyone about the vaccines.

And the other people credited with playing a larger role in the invention of the technology, especially it's current form, which has advanced drastically from his contributions in 1987, say that he's wrong and that it's not dangerous to give to children. I've cited two other articles that go into the actual contribution he made and that detail the more significant contributions made by many others.

So who are you going to believe? The vast vast majority of other doctors or the guy who falsely claims to be the sole inventor when in reality he's not even close?

Are you just gonna ignore that the consensus of thousands of more doctors who disagree? Genuine question.

They've tested it, they've studied it, they've come to a consensus agreement that it's safe. This guy wasn't even part of that process. Why are you going with what he says?

Check this out, here is an article saying he costs himself a Nobel prize. But I guess he only played a small part LOL. Just face it, once he went against the narrative he was finished.

https://techstartups.com/2021/08/12/cellular-immunologist-says-mrna-vaccine-inventor-dr-robert-malone-ruined-chances-nobel-prize-undermines-use-vaccine-invented/

His last work on MRNA was in 1987 dude. He was not gonna get a nobel prize. He contributed, he did not invent.

You said he invented it, I proved he did not. You still have nothing to prove he did. What are we even arguing about right now?

He's one guy who disagrees with medical consensus, including that of all the people who made greater contributions to MRNA technology than he did. What about them? Why aren't you listening to them when they say it's safe? They're not getting nobel prizes either, they have nothing to gain.

[jmr07019]

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A significant threat to public health or however the state interprets that vague language. Doesn't have to be covid related.

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Once again a disingenuous interpretation of what happened. They were arrested but they are planned protests with a camera along for the ride intending to get arrested for breaking the law. It's a good form of protest, the method goes back to the civil rights movement though they waited for the press because not everyone was carrying a camera. I don't really have any sympathy for the cause in this case, no one is making them get vaccinated if they don't want to, restaurants however have been a real source of covid spread due to the amount of time people spend in an enclosed area together so it's a public health issue and there is a ton of precedent there. Presenting it as if some random people enjoying a meal are getting arrested for not showing their card is what makes it disingenuous, it's major spin. Every time some dbag refers to public health mandates as having something to do with concentration camps Tucker Carlson gets his wings apparently.

https://thehill.com/briefingroom-blogroll/586133-anti-vaccine-protestors-arrested-in-new-york-during-organized-sit-in-at

https://sports.yahoo.com/4-people-were-arrested-ytork-051159822.html

If the state takes your job and doesn't let you into grocery stores and restaurants what is left? Income and food are necessary conditions for living. This is just a mandate with extra steps.

[ddb]

They are perpetuating the pandemic by allowing unfounded fear to promulgate because it is advantageous for them politically. They are monsters. It has plenty to do with Desantis/Trump. Their reticence to promote the safe and effective vaccine that they have benefited from gives oxygen to the conspiracy theories that the uneducated (like yourself) latch on to.

"gO bAcK tO yOuR iSoLaTiOn aNd KeEp LiViNg iN fEaR pLeAsE" what a horrible **** you are. I've lost multiple family members at this stage to COVID. Do you have no shame? How dare you continue to pull this bull. Do you have no heart/soul? How can you be so awful?

I distinctly remember you saying you were gonna sign off for the week. Please do.

OMG. You're like crazy liberal 101. I was simply stating a truth that the remaining unvaccinated millions are unvaccinated because it's what they believe in medically despite your whole angel bringing Ron Desantis into the thread. It's irrelevant. You clearly posted that with an agenda in mind. You clown

I hope you get it. I hope you don't survive it.

You literally just posted that you hope I die. Are you out of your mind? WTF man?
Am I sorry that you lost loved ones? Yes. That’s sad no matter how someone dies.
Did I wish death on you? Absolutely not.

Apologize now

[ddb]

You know what. **** this ****. Clearly we have lunatics posting on here.
I don’t need this is my healthy life. I get back from a 3 mile jog taking care of myself, doing it the way I believe, and some clown is wishing death on me.

Be thankful you can hide behind your screen.

[cl2117]

OMG. You're like crazy liberal 101. I was simply stating a truth that the remaining unvaccinated millions are unvaccinated because it's what they believe in medically despite your whole angel bringing Ron Desantis into the thread. It's irrelevant. You clearly posted that with an agenda in mind. You clown

I hope you get it. I hope you don't survive it.

You literally just posted that you hope I die. Are you out of your mind? WTF man?
Am I sorry that you lost loved ones? Yes. That’s sad no matter how someone dies.
Did I wish death on you? Absolutely not.

Apologize now

No.

[SuperDeluxe]

OMG. You're like crazy liberal 101. I was simply stating a truth that the remaining unvaccinated millions are unvaccinated because it's what they believe in medically despite your whole angel bringing Ron Desantis into the thread. It's irrelevant. You clearly posted that with an agenda in mind. You clown

I hope you get it. I hope you don't survive it.

You literally just posted that you hope I die. Are you out of your mind? WTF man?
Am I sorry that you lost loved ones? Yes. That’s sad no matter how someone dies.
Did I wish death on you? Absolutely not.

Apologize now

He was wrong, but you don't deserve any apologies. You've posted anti-Semitic content, you've laughed at other people's loss of family members to covid, etc. Go away, like you've already said you would twice today.

[ddb]

That I don't agree with.

Thought about deleting it, willing to if I have to, but I stand by it.

I've lost too many loved ones at this stage. I'd rather sacrifice those unwilling to be part of the solution than any more innocent lives. It hurts too much and this fool just keeps mocking in the face of this horrific tragedy.

I can relate to that, I lost someone to covid too. And I can understand where you're coming from. But wishing this guy's death is falling onto his lap -- he has already openly acknowledged that he's here to troll pro-vax people.

Yes I do troll your ass because you’re so easily triggered and the moment someone says something you don’t like you trash them and say brutal things.

So you too hope that I die. “You can relate”. You’re saying it indirectly.

Karma guys. We will see who’s still posting in the years ahead. I, unlike you, hope you’re healthy and live a long life regardless of your vaccination status.

Clowns

[Larry_Russell]

what a **** show this thread is.

[SuperDeluxe]

Thought about deleting it, willing to if I have to, but I stand by it.

I've lost too many loved ones at this stage. I'd rather sacrifice those unwilling to be part of the solution than any more innocent lives. It hurts too much and this fool just keeps mocking in the face of this horrific tragedy.

I can relate to that, I lost someone to covid too. And I can understand where you're coming from. But wishing this guy's death is falling onto his lap -- he has already openly acknowledged that he's here to troll pro-vax people.

Yes I do troll your ass because you’re so easily triggered and the moment someone says something you don’t like you trash them and say brutal things.

So you too hope that I die. “You can relate”. You’re saying it indirectly.

Karma guys. We will see who’s still posting in the years ahead. I, unlike you, hope you’re healthy and live a long life regardless of your vaccination status.

Clowns

No. You are a complete, hopeless idiot. Hard not to get triggered by the **** you post here.

I don't hope you die. I do hope that you go away but everybody here knows you won't. You live for this. Pretty sad.

[Bucksmaniac]

For a long long time, I tried to patiently explain the true science to you - citing, quoting & explaining peer reviewed publications written by the best medical minds on planet earth. No insults. No bashing.
And you ignored everything I said…and continued to spout blatantly ignorant & very dangerous disinformation.
And then you exceeded my tolerance level.
You deserve to be disparaged in every possible way.
You are truly scum of the earth - a lethal & dangerous combination of stupidity, willful ignorance, hubris & arrogance.
Caveman was spot on the other day - trying to educate abject morons like you, JMR, Scarlet & a couple of others about Covid is analogous to trying to teach astrophysics to my dog.

Have you ever considered that you're wrong? Or that what you believe is a big lie?

What I believe is based on a lifetime of medical knowledge & experience.
What I believe is based on the best peer reviewed medical literature in the world - the original sources of information.
What I believe is what 99.9% of the brightest Infectious Disease, epidemiology & virology physicians & PhDs on planet earth believe.

And you - a **** ignorant & arrogant moron with ABSOLUTELY ZERO MEDICAL INSIGHT - disagree?
LOLOLOLOLOL.

If it was so obviously safe how come PHDs were among the most hesitant groups pct wise in taking the vaccine? You’d think they’d support ‘science’ if it was so clear and obvious like you make it seem,

[Bucksmaniac]

You know what. **** this ****. Clearly we have lunatics posting on here.
I don’t need this is my healthy life. I get back from a 3 mile jog taking care of myself, doing it the way I believe, and some clown is wishing death on me.

Be thankful you can hide behind your screen.

People are ugly behind their screen because they can be ugly with no repercussions unfortunately. I’m engaging here because there’s some interesting discussion and enough on the skeptical side of the vaccine debate that it’s not entirely one sided. That said exculpatory’s posts definitely read like he’s unhinged, not exactly a steady guiding hand he should be if he’s in the medical field, hopefully that’s not the case in real life.

[Larry_Russell]

Have you ever considered that you're wrong? Or that what you believe is a big lie?

What I believe is based on a lifetime of medical knowledge & experience.
What I believe is based on the best peer reviewed medical literature in the world - the original sources of information.
What I believe is what 99.9% of the brightest Infectious Disease, epidemiology & virology physicians & PhDs on planet earth believe.

And you - a **** ignorant & arrogant moron with ABSOLUTELY ZERO MEDICAL INSIGHT - disagree?
LOLOLOLOLOL.

If it was so obviously safe how come PHDs were among the most hesitant groups pct wise in taking the vaccine? You’d think they’d support ‘science’ if it was so clear and obvious like you make it seem,

Is there articles to support that?

Some that I have read state that it is nurses, aides, nurse practioners and non medical hospital workers as the primary sources of vaccine hesitancy.

https://www.modernhealthcare.com/labor/why-are-some-healthcare-workers-refusing-covid-vaccines

Pretty much all the articles/reports I have read have almost all doctors being 100% behind the vaccine.

[Bucksmaniac]

What I believe is based on a lifetime of medical knowledge & experience.
What I believe is based on the best peer reviewed medical literature in the world - the original sources of information.
What I believe is what 99.9% of the brightest Infectious Disease, epidemiology & virology physicians & PhDs on planet earth believe.

And you - a **** ignorant & arrogant moron with ABSOLUTELY ZERO MEDICAL INSIGHT - disagree?
LOLOLOLOLOL.

If it was so obviously safe how come PHDs were among the most hesitant groups pct wise in taking the vaccine? You’d think they’d support ‘science’ if it was so clear and obvious like you make it seem,

Is there articles to support that?

Some that I have read state that it is nurses, aides, nurse practioners and non medical hospital workers as the primary sources of vaccine hesitancy.

https://www.modernhealthcare.com/labor/why-are-some-healthcare-workers-refusing-covid-vaccines

Pretty much all the articles/reports I have read have almost all doctors being 100% behind the vaccine.

I’m not specifically saying doctors but PHD’s in general, this is one article that supports this trend, keep in mind things may have changed in four months but I don’t think dramatically:

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/the-most-vaccine-hesitant-group-of-all-ph-d-s/

[CelticFaninLBC]

What happened to the herd immunity the right promised?