The 2021-2022 I Wouldn't Trade Brown for Simmons Because He's a Clown Trade Thread

[playa-hater]

There is a part of me that says after tonight's loss to Philly I expect yhis thread to be popping// the other part of me says it doesn't even matter..

I am all in on Doom and Gloom right now.. with No light at the end of the tunnel.

Green Freakin Kool-Aid at fixin this shet.

[Shak_Celts]

There is a part of me that says after tonight's loss to Philly I expect yhis thread to be popping// the other part of me says it doesn't even matter..

I am all in on Doom and Gloom right now.. with No light at the end of the tunnel.

Green Freakin Kool-Aid at fixin this shet.

have you had it with a little THC (ten hot chilis mods )? it will fix you right up, then you'll think everything is great!

[Asian Celtic]

Most of the time we're wrong.

So i'm guessing it's Sabonis (hoping).

[darrendaye]

We really need to force the issue regarding TimeLord and his outside shooting. He has a great stoke from mid-range. We helped turn many centers who couldn’t shoot into deep threats these past few seasons just by force. Why not him? It’d solve so many of our issues. More pick n pops. More room to drive for guys he screens for. Better spacing overall. I just don’t get it.

Now you're speaking my language.

[Andrew McCeltic]

We really need to force the issue regarding TimeLord and his outside shooting. He has a great stoke from mid-range. We helped turn many centers who couldn’t shoot into deep threats these past few seasons just by force. Why not him? It’d solve so many of our issues. More pick n pops. More room to drive for guys he screens for. Better spacing overall. I just don’t get it.

Now you're speaking my language.

I'm sure they see it in practice, it's probably not ready. Reliable mid-range J would be huge. He's got such long limbs, though, there's more to go wrong mechanically. Offense hasn't developed either.. after his first year of college, he was talked about as a top 10 pick, all the hype was that he'd develop as a scorer.

[Andrew McCeltic]

Anyway it's nice to see flashes of a jump shot from him, nice to see flashes from Nesmith and Pritchard. But if you toss the season to get those guys more reps (JRich out, Schroeder out, maybe Al), it's always uglier than what you imagine.

[ddb]

I'm ready for the Celtics box scores to feature at least 5-6 new names on there. Not talking about 10-day contract players either. No loyalty, no nothing. NBA is a business and should be all about winning. The Celtics have 1 title in the last 34 years. The league is wide open right now....There are no super powers. LeBron for the first time ever is vulnerable....the defending champ Bucks are beatable. Who knows about the Nets...Warriors/Suns are awesome but far from superpowers.
I get that building a contender is incredibly difficult and requires a little luck. But at the same time I feel like Brad has positioned the roster to be one that is built for big trades....From an outsiders perspective I just feel like it's entirely possible for Brad to have this roster a championship caliber roster for the start of 22-23. Everything he does between now and then should be with that in mind. Not a roster that's "on the upswing".....a roster that's READY.
enough is enough of this crap. This team has been disappointing for awhile now. Even in the bubble...they were fools gold.

If I'm Brad Stevens I'm Flipping going for it....What does he have to lose? Worst case scenario it doesn't work out and he can land pretty much any NBA or NCAA coaching job in the country. Go for it Brad! We won't hold anything against you....Just don't trade Tatum. That's the only player that's untouchable right now....

[Larry_Russell]

Timelord for PJ Washington

Schroder, Juancho Bruno to the Wizards for Thomas Bryant and Isaiah Todd

Aaron Holiday (From Washington) Romeo Langford and a second for Davion MItchell

Smart/Mitchell/Pritchard
Brown/Richardson/Thomas 2wp
Tatum/Nesmith/Jackson/Hauser 2wp
Washington/GrantW/Todd/Parker
Horford/Bryant/Kanter

[GoGreen]

I'm ready for the Celtics box scores to feature at least 5-6 new names on there. Not talking about 10-day contract players either. No loyalty, no nothing. NBA is a business and should be all about winning. The Celtics have 1 title in the last 34 years. The league is wide open right now....There are no super powers. LeBron for the first time ever is vulnerable....the defending champ Bucks are beatable. Who knows about the Nets...Warriors/Suns are awesome but far from superpowers.
I get that building a contender is incredibly difficult and requires a little luck. But at the same time I feel like Brad has positioned the roster to be one that is built for big trades....From an outsiders perspective I just feel like it's entirely possible for Brad to have this roster a championship caliber roster for the start of 22-23. Everything he does between now and then should be with that in mind. Not a roster that's "on the upswing".....a roster that's READY.
enough is enough of this crap. This team has been disappointing for awhile now. Even in the bubble...they were fools gold.

If I'm Brad Stevens I'm Flipping going for it....What does he have to lose? Worst case scenario it doesn't work out and he can land pretty much any NBA or NCAA coaching job in the country. Go for it Brad! We won't hold anything against you....Just don't trade Tatum. That's the only player that's untouchable right now....

What are we trading and for who? I would love to go for it, but I don't think there's a guy out there who will put this team over the top. And if there is, I don't think the Cs have anything to offer him.

Team needs pride, too. There's something smelly in that locker room. Lazyness, entitlement, not trusting each other, not moving the ball. This team doesn't fight. That needs to be addressed most of all and idk what trade will fix that.

[darrendaye]

We really need to force the issue regarding TimeLord and his outside shooting. He has a great stoke from mid-range. We helped turn many centers who couldn’t shoot into deep threats these past few seasons just by force. Why not him? It’d solve so many of our issues. More pick n pops. More room to drive for guys he screens for. Better spacing overall. I just don’t get it.

Now you're speaking my language.

I'm sure they see it in practice, it's probably not ready. Reliable mid-range J would be huge. He's got such long limbs, though, there's more to go wrong mechanically. Offense hasn't developed either.. after his first year of college, he was talked about as a top 10 pick, all the hype was that he'd develop as a scorer.

Much of the reason he dropped was his injury and a few games where he looked completely disinterested, including a nationally televised matchup with Ayton.

His lack of progress offensively is near impossible to pinpoint where more blame lies. His shot looks VERY solid, nearly all of his misses are long rather than right or left. I'm also perplexed he doesn't try any face-up drives and don't think I've ever seen a drop-step, up and under, or other low post footwork other than a basic turn around (I could be wrong). I mean he stated a year or two ago that he was told not to try to dunk everything but no reference to what he was instructed to do instead.

He's definitely taken steady steps of improvement on defense and other nuances of the game. I do think though time is quickly approaching that trades need to occur and niche players are going to be in jeopardy. I also believe he is ideally a 4/5 player as he can be neutralized on the boards by lengthier/bulkier centers. I really hope he's given more runway to expand his offensive playmaking so he can more easily fit in a double big lineup.

[Larry_Russell]

TImelord for Washington.
I personally make that deal easy.

Another idea
Richardson and Romeo to Atlanta to sure up their defense
Gallinari and a protected 1st from Atlanta to Sacramento
Davion Mitchell and Bagley to Boston

[Larry_Russell]

Im having fun, dont judge me

Dallas in: Horford and Schroder

Boston in: KP and Brunson

Boston gets a third star who plays much better in a team ball sharing environment than in the Doncic dominated Dallas


Smart/Brunson/Pritchard
Richardson/Romeo/Thomas
Brown/Nesmith/Hauser
Tatum/Grant/Parker/Juancho
KP/TImelord/Kanter/Bruno

Still have Juancho, Bruno, 1 of romeo/nesmith and 1 of pritchard/brunson to upgrade 6th man

[playa-hater]

Anyway it's nice to see flashes of a jump shot from him, nice to see flashes from Nesmith and Pritchard. But if you toss the season to get those guys more reps (JRich out, Schroeder out, maybe Al), it's always uglier than what you imagine.

disagree.. this is as Ugly as imaginable. we need a direction regardless of wins and losses.. This is like a Merri-Go-Round..

play the youths and maybe just maybe it will be better not worse as your imagination.. But even if not, we will have a direction..

[playa-hater]

[b]Im having fun[/b], dont judge me

Dallas in: Horford and Schroder

Boston in: KP and Brunson

Boston gets a third star who plays much better in a team ball sharing environment than in the Doncic dominated Dallas


Smart/Brunson/Pritchard
Richardson/Romeo/Thomas
Brown/Nesmith/Hauser
Tatum/Grant/Parker/Juancho
KP/TImelord/Kanter/Bruno

Still have Juancho, Bruno, 1 of romeo/nesmith and 1 of pritchard/brunson to upgrade 6th man

these are "fun times" I am either already dead, living in purgatory or dying slowly.. take a pick.

[Larry_Russell]

[b]Im having fun[/b], dont judge me

Dallas in: Horford and Schroder

Boston in: KP and Brunson

Boston gets a third star who plays much better in a team ball sharing environment than in the Doncic dominated Dallas


Smart/Brunson/Pritchard
Richardson/Romeo/Thomas
Brown/Nesmith/Hauser
Tatum/Grant/Parker/Juancho
KP/TImelord/Kanter/Bruno

Still have Juancho, Bruno, 1 of romeo/nesmith and 1 of pritchard/brunson to upgrade 6th man

these are "fun times" I am either already dead, living in purgatory or dying slowly.. take a pick.

I dont even know anymore....

I do think KP and Brunson are good fits though. KP especially.

[sogood]

Im having fun, dont judge me

Dallas in: Horford and Schroder

Boston in: KP and Brunson

Boston gets a third star who plays much better in a team ball sharing environment than in the Doncic dominated Dallas


Smart/Brunson/Pritchard
Richardson/Romeo/Thomas
Brown/Nesmith/Hauser
Tatum/Grant/Parker/Juancho
KP/TImelord/Kanter/Bruno

Still have Juancho, Bruno, 1 of romeo/nesmith and 1 of pritchard/brunson to upgrade 6th man

KP > Horford

Brunson > Schroder

Dallas does this why?

[Larry_Russell]

Im having fun, dont judge me

Dallas in: Horford and Schroder

Boston in: KP and Brunson

Boston gets a third star who plays much better in a team ball sharing environment than in the Doncic dominated Dallas


Smart/Brunson/Pritchard
Richardson/Romeo/Thomas
Brown/Nesmith/Hauser
Tatum/Grant/Parker/Juancho
KP/TImelord/Kanter/Bruno

Still have Juancho, Bruno, 1 of romeo/nesmith and 1 of pritchard/brunson to upgrade 6th man

KP > Horford

Brunson > Schroder

Dallas does this why?

Fit. Horford fits better than KP, IMO. Schroder bring scorer over Brunson.

Also they shed 2 years of salary on KP saving them about 50 million thanks to Horfords NG contract allowing them to re-tool on the fly in the offseason.

[Andrew McCeltic]

Now you're speaking my language.

I'm sure they see it in practice, it's probably not ready. Reliable mid-range J would be huge. He's got such long limbs, though, there's more to go wrong mechanically. Offense hasn't developed either.. after his first year of college, he was talked about as a top 10 pick, all the hype was that he'd develop as a scorer.

Much of the reason he dropped was his injury and a few games where he looked completely disinterested, including a nationally televised matchup with Ayton.

His lack of progress offensively is near impossible to pinpoint where more blame lies. His shot looks VERY solid, nearly all of his misses are long rather than right or left. I'm also perplexed he doesn't try any face-up drives and don't think I've ever seen a drop-step, up and under, or other low post footwork other than a basic turn around (I could be wrong). I mean he stated a year or two ago that he was told not to try to dunk everything but no reference to what he was instructed to do instead.

He's definitely taken steady steps of improvement on defense and other nuances of the game. I do think though time is quickly approaching that trades need to occur and niche players are going to be in jeopardy. I also believe he is ideally a 4/5 player as he can be neutralized on the boards by lengthier/bulkier centers. I really hope he's given more runway to expand his offensive playmaking so he can more easily fit in a double big lineup.

Injury, sophomore plateau, attitude..

But I don’t think he ever levels up as a scorer.. lot of years with no progress. I want him to reach Clint Capela level - elite defense protecting the rim and guarding the pick and roll, double digit rebounds. I don’t know if he even gets there.

[Andrew McCeltic]

Im having fun, dont judge me

Dallas in: Horford and Schroder

Boston in: KP and Brunson

Boston gets a third star who plays much better in a team ball sharing environment than in the Doncic dominated Dallas


Smart/Brunson/Pritchard
Richardson/Romeo/Thomas
Brown/Nesmith/Hauser
Tatum/Grant/Parker/Juancho
KP/TImelord/Kanter/Bruno

Still have Juancho, Bruno, 1 of romeo/nesmith and 1 of pritchard/brunson to upgrade 6th man

KP > Horford

Brunson > Schroder

Dallas does this why?

Porzingis sucks now - he’s “healthy”, which is good - but he doesn’t score unless he’s the focal point, I don’t think it’s just a Luka issue. And with Doncic out, he has a couple of great games and as many bad ones. Doesn’t rebound reliably and still hasn’t developed into the rim protector he should be. Shocked if he puts it all together. And I’m the last to stick a fork in young players, so..

[Andrew McCeltic]

Anyway as mediocre as KP is I don’t think they trade him for Horford just to save 15 million next year