OT: The Official COVID/Omicron Variant+ thread

[Clyde_Style]

Be safe during the holiday seasons. whether you have 0, 1, 2, 3, etc shots or have had COVID before you need to take precautions regardless.

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Everyone needs to get boosted

only 61% has had any kind of vaccine nationwide the last I recall with far less boosted

It's too late for many probably. This is spreading faster than anything previously and it will get quite a few people who didn't get sick before, but now may get infected or even ill

[HarthorneWingo]

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/fauci-omicron-covid-variant-cases-unpredictable_n_61bf9ee2e4b04b42ab611ae4

WILMINGTON, Del. (AP) — The COVID-19 omicron variant is “just raging around the world,” the White House’s top medical adviser said Sunday as President Joe Biden prepares to issue “a stark warning of what the winter will look like” for unvaccinated Americans.

Dr. Anthony Fauci, the country’s leading infectious disease expert, told NBC’s “Meet the Press” that “the real problem” for the U.S. hospital system is that “we have so many people in this country who are eligible to be vaccinated who have not yet been vaccinated.”

The prospect of a winter chilled by a wave of coronavirus infections is a severe reversal from the optimism projected by Biden some 10 months ago, when he suggested at a CNN town hall that the country would essentially be back to normal by this Christmas. Biden has been careful not to overpromise, yet confidence in the country has been battered by an unrelenting wave of COVID-19 mutations and variations that have left many Americans emotionally exhausted, dispirited and worried about infections.

[Jalen Bluntson]

One thing about America is we have the ability to socialize medicine to a large degree and get it on par with many of the countries in Europe, but we don’t have any political consensus to do that. It’s a massive overhaul, but probably one of the best things we could do as a nation. We’re often a socialized country already when it comes to government programs, but it seems the term socialized medicine are fighting words still.

Yeah...healthcare for profits is working so well....why change it? To the other posts about the corruption in our government...this is just another example. Get the dirty money out of politics. Period. Media also needs an overhaul. Accountability is non existent. The only social programs they never want to cut involve corporate welfare. Our infrastructure is a "social program" that the greedy corporations also don't want to pay for. I'm just sick of it all and I'm glad I'll be dead soon enough compared to the young people who WILL be left holding the bag.

As for omicron. The hype is going to end up a bunch of nothing. As I stated on here months ago...the virus will weaken and the fear should too. Most viruses evolve to sustain the host without killing them in order to survive. That is what is happening now. The hype will have you believe this surge is worse but...it isn't. The money shift is all you need to follow to see exactly what is going on. Natural immunity is being ignored while the vaccine proves ineffective at stopping the virus. Makes no sense. Booster shots are the solution? Nonsense. Herd immunity is the solution and it will happen with or without the vaccine. The vaccine is nothing more than a symptom reducer that mainly high risk people need...and not EVERYONE!

Obviously, you don’t have anyone close to you who works in a hospital. Pick a newspaper sometime and check out the hospital situation.

Obviously you don't have a clue who or what I know. Obviously you are wrong. Obviously.

[Jalen Bluntson]

If you get vaccinated and still get sick...then obviously the vaccine doesn't work...and there is nothing else you can do beyond masks and social distancing. People are dying. Most of them...the VAST MAJORITY are high risk. Live in fear all you want. I got my vax and I wear my mask and really don't give a fuq anymore. Buy the hype all you want. The virus WILL weaken as it already has. If not ...we all die. I'm good with that too.

[Clyde_Style]

If you get vaccinated and still get sick...then obviously the vaccine doesn't work...and there is nothing else you can do beyond masks and social distancing. People are dying. Most of them...the VAST MAJORITY are high risk. Live in fear all you want. I got my vax and I wear my mask and really don't give a fuq anymore. Buy the hype all you want. The virus WILL weaken as it already has. If not ...we all die. I'm good with that too.

Mitigating severity of illness is a functional gain. Saying something does not 100% work as a prophylactic is not at all equivalent to saying there is no medical efficacy to a vaccine.

If I'm 60 times less likely to die from covid than an unvaccinated person, how can you say the vaccine doesn't work?

What is hype about speaking those facts?

[HarthorneWingo]

Yeah...healthcare for profits is working so well....why change it? To the other posts about the corruption in our government...this is just another example. Get the dirty money out of politics. Period. Media also needs an overhaul. Accountability is non existent. The only social programs they never want to cut involve corporate welfare. Our infrastructure is a "social program" that the greedy corporations also don't want to pay for. I'm just sick of it all and I'm glad I'll be dead soon enough compared to the young people who WILL be left holding the bag.

As for omicron. The hype is going to end up a bunch of nothing. As I stated on here months ago...the virus will weaken and the fear should too. Most viruses evolve to sustain the host without killing them in order to survive. That is what is happening now. The hype will have you believe this surge is worse but...it isn't. The money shift is all you need to follow to see exactly what is going on. Natural immunity is being ignored while the vaccine proves ineffective at stopping the virus. Makes no sense. Booster shots are the solution? Nonsense. Herd immunity is the solution and it will happen with or without the vaccine. The vaccine is nothing more than a symptom reducer that mainly high risk people need...and not EVERYONE!

Obviously, you don’t have anyone close to you who works in a hospital. Pick a newspaper sometime and check out the hospital situation.

Obviously you don't have a clue who or what I know. Obviously you are wrong. Obviously.

Then OBVIOUSLY you must not care very much about them bc if you did, you wouldn’t be spouting off nonsense about herd immunity. Good luck out there . Let us know how you feel when you get Omicron.

[Clyde_Style]

Ha ha, these DBags got what they deserve

From the NY Times

Donald Trump said he got a booster shot and his supporters booed

Spoiler:

Former President Donald J. Trump, who for years falsely claimed vaccines were dangerous and pointedly declined to be seen getting vaccinated against Covid-19 while in office, was booed at an event in Dallas after saying publicly for the first time that he had received a booster shot.

Mr. Trump was in Texas on Sunday as part of a speaking tour with Bill O’Reilly, the author and former Fox News host, when Mr. O’Reilly said that both he and Mr. Trump “are vaxxed.”

Mr. O’Reilly then asked, “Did you get the booster?”

“Yes,” Mr. Trump said.

“I got it too,” Mr. O’Reilly said.

The crowd began to boo, according to a video distributed by one of Mr. O’Reilly’s social media accounts.

“Don’t, don’t, don’t, don’t,” Mr. Trump said, waving his arm to dismiss the naysayers and downplaying the size of the reaction by pointing to what he said was “a very tiny group over there.”

The exchange comes as the rapidly spreading Omicron variant has fueled a sharp rise in new cases and hospitalizations, with several states mobilizing the National Guard to help with hospital staffing shortages. Omicron is now the dominant version of new coronavirus cases in the United States, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Vaccinated people without booster shots are believed to be more vulnerable to infection by Omicron, and government officials nationwide say boosters are the best response to the new variant.

Just before the booing, Mr. Trump said that his supporters should get vaccinated because, he suggested, unwillingness to do so represented a victory for liberals. “What we’ve done is historic,” he said of the three Covid vaccines in use in the United States that were developed while he was in office. “Don’t let them take away, don’t take it away from ourselves. You’re playing right into their hands when you sort of like, ‘oh, the vaccine.’”

He then reiterated his opposition to vaccine mandates, which the Biden administration, localities across the country and many employers have embraced in order to boost vaccination rates. “You shouldn’t be forced to take it, no mandates. But take credit,” Mr. Trump said.

[thebuzzardman]

Ha ha, these DBags got what they deserve

From the NY Times

Donald Trump said he got a booster shot and his supporters booed

Spoiler:

Former President Donald J. Trump, who for years falsely claimed vaccines were dangerous and pointedly declined to be seen getting vaccinated against Covid-19 while in office, was booed at an event in Dallas after saying publicly for the first time that he had received a booster shot.

Mr. Trump was in Texas on Sunday as part of a speaking tour with Bill O’Reilly, the author and former Fox News host, when Mr. O’Reilly said that both he and Mr. Trump “are vaxxed.”

Mr. O’Reilly then asked, “Did you get the booster?”

“Yes,” Mr. Trump said.

“I got it too,” Mr. O’Reilly said.

The crowd began to boo, according to a video distributed by one of Mr. O’Reilly’s social media accounts.

“Don’t, don’t, don’t, don’t,” Mr. Trump said, waving his arm to dismiss the naysayers and downplaying the size of the reaction by pointing to what he said was “a very tiny group over there.”

The exchange comes as the rapidly spreading Omicron variant has fueled a sharp rise in new cases and hospitalizations, with several states mobilizing the National Guard to help with hospital staffing shortages. Omicron is now the dominant version of new coronavirus cases in the United States, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Vaccinated people without booster shots are believed to be more vulnerable to infection by Omicron, and government officials nationwide say boosters are the best response to the new variant.

Just before the booing, Mr. Trump said that his supporters should get vaccinated because, he suggested, unwillingness to do so represented a victory for liberals. “What we’ve done is historic,” he said of the three Covid vaccines in use in the United States that were developed while he was in office. “Don’t let them take away, don’t take it away from ourselves. You’re playing right into their hands when you sort of like, ‘oh, the vaccine.’”

He then reiterated his opposition to vaccine mandates, which the Biden administration, localities across the country and many employers have embraced in order to boost vaccination rates. “You shouldn’t be forced to take it, no mandates. But take credit,” Mr. Trump said.

Love the "mental" gymnastics here

[Clyde_Style]

Ha ha, these DBags got what they deserve

From the NY Times

Donald Trump said he got a booster shot and his supporters booed

Spoiler:

Former President Donald J. Trump, who for years falsely claimed vaccines were dangerous and pointedly declined to be seen getting vaccinated against Covid-19 while in office, was booed at an event in Dallas after saying publicly for the first time that he had received a booster shot.

Mr. Trump was in Texas on Sunday as part of a speaking tour with Bill O’Reilly, the author and former Fox News host, when Mr. O’Reilly said that both he and Mr. Trump “are vaxxed.”

Mr. O’Reilly then asked, “Did you get the booster?”

“Yes,” Mr. Trump said.

“I got it too,” Mr. O’Reilly said.

The crowd began to boo, according to a video distributed by one of Mr. O’Reilly’s social media accounts.

“Don’t, don’t, don’t, don’t,” Mr. Trump said, waving his arm to dismiss the naysayers and downplaying the size of the reaction by pointing to what he said was “a very tiny group over there.”

The exchange comes as the rapidly spreading Omicron variant has fueled a sharp rise in new cases and hospitalizations, with several states mobilizing the National Guard to help with hospital staffing shortages. Omicron is now the dominant version of new coronavirus cases in the United States, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Vaccinated people without booster shots are believed to be more vulnerable to infection by Omicron, and government officials nationwide say boosters are the best response to the new variant.

Just before the booing, Mr. Trump said that his supporters should get vaccinated because, he suggested, unwillingness to do so represented a victory for liberals. “What we’ve done is historic,” he said of the three Covid vaccines in use in the United States that were developed while he was in office. “Don’t let them take away, don’t take it away from ourselves. You’re playing right into their hands when you sort of like, ‘oh, the vaccine.’”

He then reiterated his opposition to vaccine mandates, which the Biden administration, localities across the country and many employers have embraced in order to boost vaccination rates. “You shouldn’t be forced to take it, no mandates. But take credit,” Mr. Trump said.

Love the "mental" gymnastics here

Remember when Assolini came back to the WH after his brush with death and he stood on the patio deck trying to look like a strong man for the cameras while he was obviously struggling to breathe?

Everything about how he handled the pandemic will go down in history as a farce run by a huckster who did everything he could to harvest personal attention from the crisis. What a despicable man.

[seren]

Some people wrongly believe those covidiots don’t get vaccinated because they are hard core Trumpers. They are simply wrong. This is nothing new. Dude got booed several times whenever he said he vaccinated. Republican politicians simply go with their constituents. There is little they can do even if they tried to change the minds

[2010]

I propose a New Rule that I’d like to run up the flagpole.

“No admittance to the hospital for those with COVID symptoms who are not vaccinated.”

I think that sounds fair at this particular point in time.

No admittance to the hospital for those who smoke and get cancer (while their addiction also exposed non-smokers to 2nd hand smoke without their consent through the duration of said addiction)

No admittance to the hospital for alcoholics once the liver issues kick in

No admittance to the hospital for drivers who are injured in accidents when neglecting to wear their seatbelt or worse, driving drunk and killing others who obey traffic laws

For you to have been an attorney and to infer this is crazy. Is it against the law to choose to remain unvaccinated? Either you are for the upholding of rights and adhering to law or not. You confusing people Wingo.

No I’m not. These people in these other situations you mentioned aren’t all clogging up our hospitals at one time. Are the hospitals filled up with only alcoholics? Injured people who don’t wear seatbelts? … to the point people with cancer treatments can’t get admittance? No. COVID hospitalizations, however, very much “Yes!” Moreover, those other maladies you mentioned are not highly contagious viruses that put all of our hospital workers at risk not to mention that they’ve been fighting this pandemic for 2 years now.

And that’s the difference. Hopefully this clears all that up.

You sound like a tape recorder.

[Clyde_Style]

Some people wrongly believe those covidiots don’t get vaccinated because they are hard core Trumpers. They are simply wrong. This is nothing new. Dude got booed several times whenever he said he vaccinated. Republican politicians simply go with their constituents. There is little they can do even if they tried to change the minds

MAGA is not Trump any longer. He’s washed up. He would mirror whatever his supporters liked and some of his supporter were lunatics who believed all kinds of crazy nonsense. Trump would retweet QAnon rubbish simply because he’s a whore who will use anything to get positive feedback.

What Trump did not control was their fantasy lives which operate outside the lines of rational thought. The more he sucked up to the crazies the more he set himself up for the eventuality when they would turn on him for not delivering on their various delusional expectations.

There are Trump supporters still of course, but the many loons are marching to their own drummer. Trump was destined to disappoint many of them. It was the price of his playbook

[Zenzibar]

Be safe during the holiday seasons. whether you have 0, 1, 2, 3, etc shots or have had COVID before you need to take precautions regardless.

Read on Twitter

?s=21

Everyone needs to get boosted

Everyone does not Bro. If it gets mandated, so be it.

But moreso, everyone who is vaccinated better start wearing their fkn masks and stop the bullsht in crowded areas.

PS: Not everyone during the measles or polio, etc were vax'd, due to location or whatever.

[HarthorneWingo]

Be safe during the holiday seasons. whether you have 0, 1, 2, 3, etc shots or have had COVID before you need to take precautions regardless.

Read on Twitter

?s=21

Everyone needs to get boosted

Everyone does not Bro. If it gets mandated, so be it.

But moreso, everyone who is vaccinated better start wearing their fkn masks and stop the bullsht in crowded areas.

PS: Not everyone during the measles or polio, etc were vax'd, due to location or whatever.

I disagree and so do the the experts. It’s spreading to rural areas too where healthcare is much more sparse. There’s little reason not too given the free access to the vaccine and the risk of getting the virus and stressing our healthcare beyond its capacity.

[Zenzibar]

Everyone needs to get boosted

Everyone does not Bro. If it gets mandated, so be it.

But moreso, everyone who is vaccinated better start wearing their fkn masks and stop the bullsht in crowded areas.

PS: Not everyone during the measles or polio, etc were vax'd, due to location or whatever.

I disagree and so do the the experts. It’s spreading to rural areas too where healthcare is much more sparse. There’s little reason not too given the free access to the vaccine and the risk of getting the virus and stressing our healthcare beyond its capacity.

I understand, I do. But the system is not overwhelmed and hospitals are telling folks it's better to stay home if not serious. The real culprit are the vaccinated going into crowded areas without their masks.

Why can't you acknowledge the obvious my dude. The booster effects are yet to be determined if another variant appears out of the blue.

Vaccinated folks need to mask up and not let their guards down. Start there.

[Jalen Bluntson]

No admittance to the hospital for those who smoke and get cancer (while their addiction also exposed non-smokers to 2nd hand smoke without their consent through the duration of said addiction)

No admittance to the hospital for alcoholics once the liver issues kick in

No admittance to the hospital for drivers who are injured in accidents when neglecting to wear their seatbelt or worse, driving drunk and killing others who obey traffic laws

For you to have been an attorney and to infer this is crazy. Is it against the law to choose to remain unvaccinated? Either you are for the upholding of rights and adhering to law or not. You confusing people Wingo.

No I’m not. These people in these other situations you mentioned aren’t all clogging up our hospitals at one time. Are the hospitals filled up with only alcoholics? Injured people who don’t wear seatbelts? … to the point people with cancer treatments can’t get admittance? No. COVID hospitalizations, however, very much “Yes!” Moreover, those other maladies you mentioned are not highly contagious viruses that put all of our hospital workers at risk not to mention that they’ve been fighting this pandemic for 2 years now.

And that’s the difference. Hopefully this clears all that up.

You sound like a tape recorder.

It's ridiculous to even suggest. How about the states/hospitals set up Covid sites to handle the Covid surge and not be allowed to overload hospitals. That would be a real suggestion. They did this in the early stages and then folded up tents and went home. Never to be heard from again.

They had 2 years to figure this out. We went a year with no vaccine and the issues went away BEFORE the vax. Now with a vaccine... several actually...and the majority of the country having been vaxxed...how is this surge becoming an issue again? Failure on every level.

[2010]

I just find it funny how so-called freedom fighters are falling for the propaganda laid out to make the unvaccinated scapegoats and eating it up like peanut-buttered rat bait. Then regurgitating spoon-fed narratives and pretending to sound smart like they come up with this stuff on their own.

[Clyde_Style]

I just find it funny how so-called freedom fighters are falling for the propaganda laid out to make the unvaccinated scapegoats and eating it up like peanut-buttered rat bait. Then regurgitating spoon-fed narratives and pretending to sound smart like they come up with this stuff on their own.

Not sure I understood your point. Could you rephrase it?

[HarthorneWingo]

Everyone does not Bro. If it gets mandated, so be it.

But moreso, everyone who is vaccinated better start wearing their fkn masks and stop the bullsht in crowded areas.

PS: Not everyone during the measles or polio, etc were vax'd, due to location or whatever.

I disagree and so do the the experts. It’s spreading to rural areas too where healthcare is much more sparse. There’s little reason not too given the free access to the vaccine and the risk of getting the virus and stressing our healthcare beyond its capacity.

I understand, I do. But the system is not overwhelmed and hospitals are telling folks it's better to stay home if not serious. The real culprit are the vaccinated going into crowded areas without their masks.

Why can't you acknowledge the obvious my dude. The booster effects are yet to be determined if another variant appears out of the blue.

Vaccinated folks need to mask up and not let their guards down. Start there.

Do you have statistics to back that up?

[Jalen Bluntson]

I just find it funny how so-called freedom fighters are falling for the propaganda laid out to make the unvaccinated scapegoats and eating it up like peanut-buttered rat bait. Then regurgitating spoon-fed narratives and pretending to sound smart like they come up with this stuff on their own.

I would like more info on the first omicron death other than he was unvaccinated. Age. Risk factors. Was it a healthy 30 year old in tip top shape? No...he was 50-60 years old. That's all I could find. That age alone makes him higher risk. What else was going on with him?

73% of all new cases are omicron. How many were already vaccinated? How many were traveling around without masks because they were vaccinated? Etc etc.

All we do know so far...is the vaccine does not prevent the spread of the disease no matter what the variant is. We also know that the majority of deaths...by far.. have been in high risk/older people. Many people don't even know they have had the disease.
That's all we KNOW as facts about the disease. Masks haven't even been proven effective.

I have masked up...I have been locked down...I have tried to socially distance myself...I have been vaccinated. I also haven't been sick in two years this month. Before Covid was even reported in this country officially.

Run for your lives!