Miami Heat Regular Season Thread 21-22 Vol. 1

[gom]

10-day deal:

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Welcome, Zylan Cheatham!

[Shewasfly]

I believe he will, just not this year.

As Morris injury keeps lingering, praying to the basketball gods for Kevin Love to Mia. I was out with a spinal contusion from playing highschool football that kept me out from the ball team for a month. This has been two months now with Morris.

Only way we can swing that is if he’s bought out and we offer him a starting spot imo b

Buyout is the only way sir.

I think Love wouldnt have a problem coming off the bench as long as he a intrical part of the rotation.

I do think Cavs recent success may cause the Cavs to be resistent in buying out Love this year. And Heats injury my be a deterence for buyout high level players to come here.

I can't see them wanting to trade him now that they're actually having a good season and he's a big part of why. Plus he stuck by them through Kyrie getting traded and LeBron's bull. I think he ends up retiring with them. He's kind of slowly becoming their UD.

That said, we definitely need a stretch big who can shoot and play the 5 next to Bam, so he would definitely fit here. Especially if he is still the rebounder he used to be. And he's certainly played us like he's auditioning for a spot in every game we've played against the Cavs this year

[harlem_ball]

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This is how you handle those Fakers. Heat need to take notes.

[harlem_ball]

So you're good with possibly losing him for nothing, right after Houston swaps Miami's 1st rounder for Brooklyn's?

It's also quite possible Oladipo could be the 2nd or 3rd best player with Miami for the next 3 years, if he's not that good no need to spend money on him unless it's a good value. All it will cost is tax money, Miami isn't going to have capspace with Butler, Bam, Lowry and Robinson's contracts. As much as Oladipo may want to be in Miami, this is probably going to be his last contract to make good money in his NBA career so I don't see him doing any favors for Miami after being on the minimum this year.

Going into the tax for the next few seasons is probably the reason Miami isn't going into the tax this year.

it depends in what version of oladipo shows up. if a shell of its former self shows up then no. there are better and younger players out there waiting for a opportunity to play, again if he doesnt show up like we expect to

Absolutely, if he's not good you move on unless he's cheap but if he comes back strong but rusty, I'd roll the dice on him with a sizable contract (although I'd probably only do a 3 year contract) if the medical staff green lights him after the season.

He needs to play better than Vince if he is going to get a contract.

[wadenation305]

At this point I'm starting to think there is more to the Morris thing than the Heat let on. I've been involved in a car accident before and had bad whiplash. I wasn't out for anywhere as long as this.

Either he did something bad behind the scenes or the NBA handed down some secrete punishment or something. It's beyond ridiculous that he has been out for almost half a season.

[harlem_ball]

At this point I'm starting to think there is more to the Morris thing than the Heat let on. I've been involved in a car accident before and had bad whiplash. I wasn't out for anywhere as long as this.

Either he did something bad behind the scenes or the NBA handed down some secrete punishment or something. It's beyond ridiculous that he has been out for almost half a season.

he will be back. 2 months is a good timetable

[somerandomdude]

At this point I'm starting to think there is more to the Morris thing than the Heat let on. I've been involved in a car accident before and had bad whiplash. I wasn't out for anywhere as long as this.

Either he did something bad behind the scenes or the NBA handed down some secrete punishment or something. It's beyond ridiculous that he has been out for almost half a season.

I think someone would've leaked it by now or rumors would be swirling if that was a possibility

As far as recovery time, it's different for everyone. According to a quick search, the average recovery time is about a few months.

[RexBoyWonder]

10-day deal:

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Welcome, Zylan Cheatham!

From what i can tell - the kid is an elite athlete with a high motor and a suspect jumpshot.

These are the kind of gambles i like. He's 1 improved skill away from being a legit 2 way NBA wing.

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[RexBoyWonder]

Out 3 point shooters are quietly improving :

Vincent up to 38%
Duncan 35% after an horrible star
Dedmon is at 63% (LOL)
Herro 39%
Matin 38%
Strus 41%
Tucker 45% (Damn)

Lowry is the only one still struggling at 33% but even he's trending up


If we get this type of shooting when Jimmy and Bam are 100% - we're a Championship team

[RexBoyWonder]

hot 3 point shooting had me like

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Bish with the asist

[_GH0ST_]

Out 3 point shooters are quietly improving :

Vincent up to 38%
Duncan 35% after an horrible star
Dedmon is at 63% (LOL)
Herro 39%
Matin 38%
Strus 41%
Tucker 45% (Damn)

Lowry is the only one still struggling at 33% but even he's trending up


If we get this type of shooting when Jimmy and Bam are 100% - we're a Championship team

Yurtseven was constantly using mid range and three pointers in the summer league. It's like he forgot these features while playing in the nba. I guess it has to do with his self-confidence. but i think he will get over it soon.

[greg4012]

Out 3 point shooters are quietly improving :

Vincent up to 38%
Duncan 35% after an horrible star
Dedmon is at 63% (LOL)
Herro 39%
Matin 38%
Strus 41%
Tucker 45% (Damn)

Lowry is the only one still struggling at 33% but even he's trending up


If we get this type of shooting when Jimmy and Bam are 100% - we're a Championship team

Yurtseven was constantly using mid range and three pointers in the summer league. It's like he forgot these features while playing in the nba. I guess it has to do with his self-confidence. but i think he will get over it soon.

He hasn't been put in positions to shoot the 3 ball. Spo has him living in the paint. Which is fine for now as he develops and gets comfortable with developing a full NBA game, but we def need him to bring back that 3 ball to unlock his upside on this team.

[AirP.]

it depends in what version of oladipo shows up. if a shell of its former self shows up then no. there are better and younger players out there waiting for a opportunity to play, again if he doesnt show up like we expect to

Absolutely, if he's not good you move on unless he's cheap but if he comes back strong but rusty, I'd roll the dice on him with a sizable contract (although I'd probably only do a 3 year contract) if the medical staff green lights him after the season.

He needs to play better than Vince if he is going to get a contract.

Did you not read what I wrote? I said to move on if he's not good. I also wrote that if he's just rusty and healthy you move forward with him because he's a possible all-star level talent. I think a possible all-star talent coming off multiple years of not playing or practicing regularly may be rusty and his next contact with be for the next 2-4 years with him back to near his old self. Just looking at his last play with Miami should show you he's not far off his athletic ability and could be better now.

If he's medically green lit, yes I believe a healthy Oladipo may be the 2nd or 3rd best player on Miami for the next few seasons once the rust is off him, which I expect he's quite rusty not playing/practicing normally for nearly 3 years. I think too many people have forgotten how good Oladipo was before his injuries... on BOTH sides of the ball.

I think people forget what Oladipo can do, even with him rusty and not right last year. If he's healthy, gets to practice regularly again, has Spolestra coaching and has Butler, Bam, Lowry around him... I think you could see a high level Oladipo again.

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[twix2500]

Absolutely, if he's not good you move on unless he's cheap but if he comes back strong but rusty, I'd roll the dice on him with a sizable contract (although I'd probably only do a 3 year contract) if the medical staff green lights him after the season.

He needs to play better than Vince if he is going to get a contract.

Did you not read what I wrote? I said to move on if he's not good. I also wrote that if he's just rusty and healthy you move forward with him because he's a possible all-star level talent. I think a possible all-star talent coming off multiple years of not playing or practicing regularly may be rusty and his next contact with be for the next 2-4 years with him back to near his old self. Just looking at his last play with Miami should show you he's not far off his athletic ability and could be better now.

If he's medically green lit, yes I believe a healthy Oladipo may be the 2nd or 3rd best player on Miami for the next few seasons once the rust is off him, which I expect he's quite rusty not playing/practicing normally for nearly 3 years. I think too many people have forgotten how good Oladipo was before his injuries... on BOTH sides of the ball.

I think people forget what Oladipo can do, even with him rusty and not right last year. If he's healthy, gets to practice regularly again, has Spolestra coaching and has Butler, Bam, Lowry around him... I think you could see a high level Oladipo again.

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What we do have to consider, is Dipo may be at a stage where he needs to reinvent his game. It will be interesting. Good thing is he stuck with same coaching staff so there is about a year of some familiarity and and relationships that has built up. That is why I thought it was key for him to stay with the Heat through his comeback.

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[eddieheatfan]

the heat better win the next few games because after the new year that west coast trip could be difficult for them

[AirP.]

Did you not read what I wrote? I said to move on if he's not good. I also wrote that if he's just rusty and healthy you move forward with him because he's a possible all-star level talent. I think a possible all-star talent coming off multiple years of not playing or practicing regularly may be rusty and his next contact with be for the next 2-4 years with him back to near his old self. Just looking at his last play with Miami should show you he's not far off his athletic ability and could be better now.

If he's medically green lit, yes I believe a healthy Oladipo may be the 2nd or 3rd best player on Miami for the next few seasons once the rust is off him, which I expect he's quite rusty not playing/practicing normally for nearly 3 years. I think too many people have forgotten how good Oladipo was before his injuries... on BOTH sides of the ball.

I think people forget what Oladipo can do, even with him rusty and not right last year. If he's healthy, gets to practice regularly again, has Spolestra coaching and has Butler, Bam, Lowry around him... I think you could see a high level Oladipo again.

Watch on YouTube

What we do have to consider, is Dipo may be at a stage where he needs to reinvent his game. It will be interesting. Good thing is he stuck with same coaching staff so there is about a year of some familiarity and and relationships that has built up. That is why I thought it was key for him to stay with the Heat through his comeback.

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I believe he could lose some of his athletic ability and still be very athletic for his position/size and with Butler being the main option, he could do well as the #2 or #3 option.

Unlike Butler, I'm not sure his offensive game will age well, it's really dependent on his athletic ability which to me is a guy you can possibly count on till around age 32-33 which he should be transitioning into a defensive first player if he wants to extend his career.

Oladipo is 29, not 31-32. If Oladipo is healthy I expect he'll be very good for 3 possibly 4 years which could include this year.

[twix2500]

Did you not read what I wrote? I said to move on if he's not good. I also wrote that if he's just rusty and healthy you move forward with him because he's a possible all-star level talent. I think a possible all-star talent coming off multiple years of not playing or practicing regularly may be rusty and his next contact with be for the next 2-4 years with him back to near his old self. Just looking at his last play with Miami should show you he's not far off his athletic ability and could be better now.

If he's medically green lit, yes I believe a healthy Oladipo may be the 2nd or 3rd best player on Miami for the next few seasons once the rust is off him, which I expect he's quite rusty not playing/practicing normally for nearly 3 years. I think too many people have forgotten how good Oladipo was before his injuries... on BOTH sides of the ball.

I think people forget what Oladipo can do, even with him rusty and not right last year. If he's healthy, gets to practice regularly again, has Spolestra coaching and has Butler, Bam, Lowry around him... I think you could see a high level Oladipo again.

Watch on YouTube

What we do have to consider, is Dipo may be at a stage where he needs to reinvent his game. It will be interesting. Good thing is he stuck with same coaching staff so there is about a year of some familiarity and and relationships that has built up. That is why I thought it was key for him to stay with the Heat through his comeback.

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I believe he could lose some of his athletic ability and still be very athletic for his position/size and with Butler being the main option, he could do well as the #2 or #3 option.

Unlike Butler, I'm not sure his offensive game will age well, it's really dependent on his athletic ability which to me is a guy you can possibly count on till around age 32-33 which he should be transitioning into a defensive first player if he wants to extend his career.

Oladipo is 29, not 31-32. If Oladipo is healthy I expect he'll be very good for 3 possibly 4 years which could include this year.

Injuries will make your decline come sooner ie age sooner. Dipo is the same height as Dragic. He is small for a shooting guard, his athelticism and wingspan allowed him to play the 2. I think ideally he needs to transition into a point guard and that was before his injuries. Puts him in a situation where is size becomes an advantage. With the injuries and his age this might be a time for his transition to begin. He has enough experience and smart enough to transition to point. Also, the way spo was using him that seems the direction they were going.

[twix2500]

Out 3 point shooters are quietly improving :

Vincent up to 38%
Duncan 35% after an horrible star
Dedmon is at 63% (LOL)
Herro 39%
Matin 38%
Strus 41%
Tucker 45% (Damn)

Lowry is the only one still struggling at 33% but even he's trending up


If we get this type of shooting when Jimmy and Bam are 100% - we're a Championship team

Yurtseven was constantly using mid range and three pointers in the summer league. It's like he forgot these features while playing in the nba. I guess it has to do with his self-confidence. but i think he will get over it soon.

He hasn't been put in positions to shoot the 3 ball. Spo has him living in the paint. Which is fine for now as he develops and gets comfortable with developing a full NBA game, but we def need him to bring back that 3 ball to unlock his upside on this team.

I thinks it's because of the lack of Pick N Roll/Pop guards. Everyone is running off screens to shoot 3 pointers.

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[al bondiga]

I would love dipo to be half the player He was... we will probably get 25%... he used to be special... momentum lost forever, sorry dipo