2021-22 Season Discussion and Speculation

[Fo-Real]

For a good Christmas laugh, check the lakers board trade thread. Some dude is swearing that Lebron and trash for Book and Ayton.... IS GOOD FOR US!!!! LOl!!!

[Ghost of Kleine]

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NBA Trade Rumors: Jazz's Joe Ingles 'A Name to Watch' as Rival Execs Discuss Value

TYLER CONWAY
DECEMBER 24, 2021

The Utah Jazz may explore trading Joe Ingles ahead of the 2022 NBA trade deadline as they try to fortify their roster for a deep playoff push.

Zach Lowe of ESPN reported league executives have wondered what the Jazz could land by packaging Ingles and a first-round pick. The veteran forward is in the final year of his contract and has seen his numbers and role take a dip this season.

Ingles has a $13.0 cap hit this season, which is a relative bargain even in his slightly diminished state. It's difficult to envision what type of player the Jazz could land in that price range who would be more impactful during the postseason.

Utah is currently third in the Western Conference with a 22-9 record, but its focus is not on the regular season. The Donovan Mitchell-Rudy Gobert Jazz have consistently fallen short in the playoffs, having never gotten past the second round.

With Ingles standing out as more of a luxury than a vital piece at the moment, it's possible that the Jazz look for a player who breaks the mold in their steady offensive ecosystem. 

Should we have any interest in Ingles?? He's currently a 13 million expiring contract. So we could possibly clear that money off the books in such a deal. Ingles is a good ballhandler, passer, and three point shooter with a good IQ. He's basically a slightly smaller but more mobile version of Saric. Now he obviously could help as a floor spacer ( career 40% 3 pt shooter) and a really solid frontcourt ( at 6'8) playmaker at times. But I'm not sure aside from a first and a comparable salary what we could do for a trade. ALSO, I'm not too keen on possibly helping a conference rival. Unless they'd be willing to maybe take Saric's salary, looking towards next season with him having an impact for them then. But they get a first and maybe a Nader or Payton out of it??

But as a 13 million expiring, Should we consider trading for him somehow??

I just don't see them moving him to their direct competition. Unless we move CamJo to them since Ingles likely will be cheaper.
I stand with, let's just ride this season out and make a bigger move this offseason if need be.

Fully agree on that!
That aspect kills it for me too. It's just too bad that their our direct competition. Also in that they're making Clarkson available in the facilitation of a bigger trade to upgrade their roster. But there's no way in hell I'd want the Jazz to get their hands on Jerami Grant or Christian Wood. I just figured that with Saric not playing this season ( most likely) and Smith or Nader not likely having that much of an impact on the court either, Getting Ingles could be a solid boost for us?

[NapoleonII]

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NBA Trade Rumors: Jazz's Joe Ingles 'A Name to Watch' as Rival Execs Discuss Value

TYLER CONWAY
DECEMBER 24, 2021

The Utah Jazz may explore trading Joe Ingles ahead of the 2022 NBA trade deadline as they try to fortify their roster for a deep playoff push.

Zach Lowe of ESPN reported league executives have wondered what the Jazz could land by packaging Ingles and a first-round pick. The veteran forward is in the final year of his contract and has seen his numbers and role take a dip this season.

Ingles has a $13.0 cap hit this season, which is a relative bargain even in his slightly diminished state. It's difficult to envision what type of player the Jazz could land in that price range who would be more impactful during the postseason.

Utah is currently third in the Western Conference with a 22-9 record, but its focus is not on the regular season. The Donovan Mitchell-Rudy Gobert Jazz have consistently fallen short in the playoffs, having never gotten past the second round.

With Ingles standing out as more of a luxury than a vital piece at the moment, it's possible that the Jazz look for a player who breaks the mold in their steady offensive ecosystem. 

Should we have any interest in Ingles?? He's currently a 13 million expiring contract. So we could possibly clear that money off the books in such a deal. Ingles is a good ballhandler, passer, and three point shooter with a good IQ. He's basically a slightly smaller but more mobile version of Saric. Now he obviously could help as a floor spacer ( career 40% 3 pt shooter) and a really solid frontcourt ( at 6'8) playmaker at times. But I'm not sure aside from a first and a comparable salary what we could do for a trade. ALSO, I'm not too keen on possibly helping a conference rival. Unless they'd be willing to maybe take Saric's salary, looking towards next season with him having an impact for them then. But they get a first and maybe a Nader or Payton out of it??

But as a 13 million expiring, Should we consider trading for him somehow??

Ingles would mess with our defense too much. With Monty's system you need to be competent, no weak links in the chain. Our defense is ranked #2 in the league for a reason, hiding Ingles would switch up too much of what we do defensively for a couple of threes that CamJo (who needs MORE minutes anyways) would probably be capable of hitting anyways.

Am I missing something about Ingles? He seems like an okay playmaker, which might help. We're already ranked #4 in assists.

[bwgood77]

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NBA Trade Rumors: Jazz's Joe Ingles 'A Name to Watch' as Rival Execs Discuss Value

TYLER CONWAY
DECEMBER 24, 2021

The Utah Jazz may explore trading Joe Ingles ahead of the 2022 NBA trade deadline as they try to fortify their roster for a deep playoff push.

Zach Lowe of ESPN reported league executives have wondered what the Jazz could land by packaging Ingles and a first-round pick. The veteran forward is in the final year of his contract and has seen his numbers and role take a dip this season.

Ingles has a $13.0 cap hit this season, which is a relative bargain even in his slightly diminished state. It's difficult to envision what type of player the Jazz could land in that price range who would be more impactful during the postseason.

Utah is currently third in the Western Conference with a 22-9 record, but its focus is not on the regular season. The Donovan Mitchell-Rudy Gobert Jazz have consistently fallen short in the playoffs, having never gotten past the second round.

With Ingles standing out as more of a luxury than a vital piece at the moment, it's possible that the Jazz look for a player who breaks the mold in their steady offensive ecosystem. 

Should we have any interest in Ingles?? He's currently a 13 million expiring contract. So we could possibly clear that money off the books in such a deal. Ingles is a good ballhandler, passer, and three point shooter with a good IQ. He's basically a slightly smaller but more mobile version of Saric. Now he obviously could help as a floor spacer ( career 40% 3 pt shooter) and a really solid frontcourt ( at 6'8) playmaker at times. But I'm not sure aside from a first and a comparable salary what we could do for a trade. ALSO, I'm not too keen on possibly helping a conference rival. Unless they'd be willing to maybe take Saric's salary, looking towards next season with him having an impact for them then. But they get a first and maybe a Nader or Payton out of it??

But as a 13 million expiring, Should we consider trading for him somehow??

I just don't see them moving him to their direct competition. Unless we move CamJo to them since Ingles likely will be cheaper.
I stand with, let's just ride this season out and make a bigger move this offseason if need be.

I wouldn't move CamJo for him, or even Crowder. And I really like Ingles. I think he's pretty good.

But they will get better offers than something like Saric (why would they even want him?), Jalen Smith, a future first or very late 2nd, etc.

[bwgood77]

From the Athletic, a snippet of a Bridges piece:

Spoiler:

Stalker of legends: How the Suns’ Mikal Bridges has become a modern-day stopper

By Marcus Thompson II

The Suns own the best record in the NBA. They have the second-highest-rated defense in the league, allowing an average of 102.8 points every 100 possessions. And the spear of their defense is Bridges.

He’s scheduled to be back on the main stage again on Christmas Day, chasing around Golden State Warriors guard Stephen Curry, one of the most difficult covers basketball has ever known. And there’s no place Bridges would rather be than tangling with the elite.

In an era of pace and space, Bridges operates as a contrarian. In a league dominated by ballhandlers who can drop 30 points in a blink, Bridges has made it his business to try to stop them. Like a bouncer, he positions himself in front of VIPGs.

“He’s a smart man,” Curry said of Bridges. “He knows how to get paid in this league. Smart man.”

If a stopper were crafted by the gods of defense, specifically for this modern era, he’d be strikingly similar to Bridges. He’s slightly bigger, heavier and longer than Philadelphia’s Matisse Thybulle, another of the league’s premier young defenders.

Bridges is 6-foot-6, an ideal NBA height, tall enough to be an impediment to every perimeter position but not so tall as to lose any fluidity of movement. He’s listed at 209 pounds, which is a good size. He’s gotten stronger from his wiry start and could use more strength for some of the bigger wings and stronger guards he has to face. But he has enough mass to be physical with smaller guards and yet still light on his feet. A big component of Bridges’ defense is his agility. He is quick enough to move with guards, nimble enough to matriculate around screens and stay in front. He has a 7-foot wingspan, which for ballhandlers trying to get away from him is like a scythe hanging over their heads.

The height plus agility plus wingspan plus motor equals a defensive anomaly. His teammates and coaches marvel at the space he consumes.

“He had a blocked shot in transition in the corner,” Williams said of a play against the Mavericks last month, featured in the video below (Bridges is No. 25, at the bottom of the frame when the clip begins). “But if you watch the play, he peeped it out on the left wing and sprinted to the right corner and blocked the shot, actually saved a wide-open corner 3. His ability to cover ground is a lot different than a lot of people in the league. He covers ground and he’s so doggone long.”

His physical attributes are one thing. But Bridges’ intellect and defensive instincts are just as valuable. The pedigree of playing three years at Villanova, a factory of NBA talent under coach Jay Wright, and winning two national championships is evident in the way he defends. He’s not an overly active ballhawk. Those types tend to be easier to get by if the ballhandler keeps his cool. Bridges applies pressure, but it’s patient and methodical. His body language on defense says, “I’ma be here all night.” He rides alongside dribblers, slinks around screens and hovers over guards. When it seems like he’s beat, he has a knack for hustling ahead to a spot that puts him back in front. He can be like an inescapable horror-flick villain who pops up just when you think you got away.

Watching him this year reveals a smarter defender. One who’s been on the circuit a while and has learned some tendencies of the elite scorers.

“Just staying locked in, really not falling asleep,” Bridges said. “Being ready. Just knowing different guys and what their tendencies are and just staying locked in at all times.”

It’s hard to find good data on defense to really illustrate the impact of players like Bridges. His steal and block averages — 1.3 and 0.5 per game, respectively — won’t wow anyone. But his style of defense is more preventative medicine. His effectiveness can’t be understood without accounting for what he stops from happening. The times his presence makes a player give up the ball and not be able to get it back. The shots they turn down because they don’t feel quite comfortable with him so near. The way he funnels players into a wall named DeAndre Ayton. The way he grates on players and takes their legs or their focus late in games. The way he can hop from guarding a ball-dominant guard to an off-ball wing to a bigger forward and back to the point guard.

“He’s pretty disciplined,” Curry said after the Warriors beat Phoenix at Chase Center earlier this month. “He’s obviously got size and length. His wingspan’s crazy so he can clog up space when he’s either trailing the pick-and-roll or closing out, whatever the case is. One-on-one, it’s tough to stop anybody in this league. … But there’s always going to be help, and they’re a very disciplined five-man defense, too, knowing where help is coming from and all that type of stuff. … He’s gonna do his job. He’s gonna be relentless.”

Arguably Bridges’ greatest display this season was against Curry, just three days before the game in San Francisco.

In the hyped showdown between what is considered the best two teams in the league, Bridges was sensational against Curry in the desert. Curry had 12 points on 4-for-21 shooting, one of the worst offensive displays of his career and a rare showing for the MVP favorite. Bridges had a significant hand as he was on top of his game. Curry for sure missed some open looks, but he didn’t get many free from Bridges.

It was an occasion for national recognition for a player making his name among the league’s best defenders.

“I don’t care if ’Kal don’t play another game this season,” Suns point guard Chris Paul said, “he better be on that All-Defensive team this year. Every night. Every night, man. ’Kal does everything.”

In their first meeting this season, Bridges held the Warriors’ Stephen Curry to 4-for-21 shooting. Curry had better luck in the rematch. Round 3 is slated for Christmas Day. (Mark J. Rebilas / USA Today)
There are some numbers to show Bridges’ impact.

Entering Thursday, Bridges, per NBA stats, had contested 347 field goals this season, third-most on Phoenix behind Ayton and Crowder. The players who took those shots, as a collective against all opponents, shoot 44.9 percent from the field. But in those 347 shots defended by Bridges, they shot 44.4 percent. That’s a 0.5 percent drop in field-goal percentage.

Just how much has Bridges grown this year? Last season opponents shot 49.2 percent when he defended them, which was a 2.4 percent increase over their usual collective average.

Those numbers, though, come with a caveat: Bridges is doing his work against the absolute best offensive players in the league. That’s the real party trick, the element that makes him special even among defenders. Bridges’ assignments are Curry, Lillard, Donovan Mitchell, Ja Morant. Stopping them is not truly possible. Not in this era of the NBA.

But Bridges is becoming adept at making life tough for them.

Also, he is averaging 12.1 points per game on 51.2 percent shooting and 38.1 percent from 3. Last season: 13.5 points, 54.3 percent shooting, 42.5 percent from 3.

“I think Mikal just continues to grow on the fly,” Williams said. “When we got him, he was thrown in the mix right away. So you’re learning in the game for the most part, and that can be tough. But I think where he’s expanded his game is just in confidence and IQ and knowing situations better. I think he understands who he’s guarding because he got some of the best guys all the time. But now, I think he’s growing in situational play. I think Chris and Jae have really helped him with that because they’ve been in a lot of situations. And then, he’s expanded putting the ball down. His shooting has gotten better. But his ability to guard multiple positions and expend that kind of energy on defense and then go, you know, go 7-for-7 from the field on offense like that? That’s hard.”

Paul, in his 17th season, shakes his head as he speaks in a tone while running off the list of players. A throwback from a different era, he remembers vividly.

“So many years guarding,” Paul said. “You know what I mean. Guarding guarding. Chasing around Steph. Guarding James (Harden). Guarding Kyrie (Irving). Russ (Westbrook). All that.”

Paul is leaving out some names, for sure. Allen Iverson. Baron Davis. Steve Nash. Gilbert Arenas. Tony Parker. He’s cycled through a generation of killer guards.

The point is, he knows. He knows the mindset it takes. He knows the preparation and recovery required. He knows the selflessness it demands, the scarcity of the thanks.

“I get so excited about it because I know what that’s like,” Paul said. “So it’s a different type of approach coming into the game. It’s a lot of games where guys coming into game have to think about making their shots and getting to their spots. But when you have to think of how am I gonna make the game tough on this guy, it’s a whole different approach to the game. And he’s one of the best I’ve seen do it.”

Chris Paul and Mikal Bridges
“He’s one of the best I’ve seen do it,” Suns guard Chris Paul — who knows a thing or two about defending top guards — says of

Part of the life Bridges has chosen involves getting torched sometimes. That’s the nature of the beast when the nightly assignment is to stalk legends. Yet, he still wants it.

Curry followed up that 12-point performance three days later with 23 in a rematch against Bridges and Phoenix. He made 6 of 11 3-pointers this time. It wasn’t an explosive Curry performance, but enough damage for the Warriors to beat the Devin Booker-less Suns. And now Bridges has to do it again on Christmas Day. Curry gets a third crack at unlocking the gate to the Suns’ defense.

And Bridges could very well walk away getting victimized. He learned a few weeks into his rookie season how good these guys are and how sometimes good defense isn’t much of a deterrent.

“I remember (Paul George) when I was a rookie, when he was with OKC,” Bridges said. “That was tough.”

Phoenix played the Thunder twice in five days in November 2018. Westbrook was out both games. George totaled 64 points on 41 shots over the two games.

That’s why Paul gets excited, and emphatic, about Bridges. Paul knows well the risk of the job and the propensity to get burned. And in Bridges he sees a player who doesn’t flinch at the prospect.

“He’s cool with it,” Paul said. “It’s a lot of people who don’t like to play defense. A whole lot of people.”

In the 2021 NBA Finals, in Game 6, it was Jrue Holiday that Bridges was stalking. Holiday went 4-for-19 from the field. His four makes came when he got free of Bridges. But seven of the 15 misses were contested by Bridges, including a block and three shots where Holiday didn’t hit the rim. On several other occasions, Holiday used a screen to get around Bridges, but the continued pursuit of the Suns’ wing fed Holiday right to Ayton, who contested three misses including one block.

It was a stellar defensive performance by Bridges in the biggest game of his life. But it ended on the sourest of notes.

[bwgood77]

Xin Varlock (@XinNBA) Tweeted:
The NBA released its MVP ladder today (15 players), and all three of Chris Paul, Devin Booker, and Deandre Ayton are on it. No sign of Draymond Green or KAT.

The Suns should have three all-stars this year.
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Kind of surprised to see anyone other than Jokic 1st, especially Jokic at 3rd, though Curry is great. Probably because of each having the top seed.

Surprised CP3 is quite as high as he is though I think he deserves it. Also surprised Booker is the lowest ranked of our 3.

I think Jokic is currently the best player in the NBA. Someone told me last night he was having the best season of all time (or modern times with pace slower compared to the days of Wilt...but maybe better than that).

Then I'd say Curry, KD and Giannis, and it's close between those 3. Not sure who would be next. Embiid would probably be next. If Kawhi was healthy he'd probably be next. Luka and Lillard would be right there without their huge drop offs this season. George too. Kyrie as well. Our guys would be in the conversation after them normally but now perhaps after Embiid, along with guys like Butler, Lavine, Trae...all guys who are probably ahead of the Luka, Lillard, George group now.

I think with most improved, Garland has passed Miles Bridges as well.

[Ghost of Kleine]

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Should we have any interest in Ingles?? He's currently a 13 million expiring contract. So we could possibly clear that money off the books in such a deal. Ingles is a good ballhandler, passer, and three point shooter with a good IQ. He's basically a slightly smaller but more mobile version of Saric. Now he obviously could help as a floor spacer ( career 40% 3 pt shooter) and a really solid frontcourt ( at 6'8) playmaker at times. But I'm not sure aside from a first and a comparable salary what we could do for a trade. ALSO, I'm not too keen on possibly helping a conference rival. Unless they'd be willing to maybe take Saric's salary, looking towards next season with him having an impact for them then. But they get a first and maybe a Nader or Payton out of it??

But as a 13 million expiring, Should we consider trading for him somehow??

I just don't see them moving him to their direct competition. Unless we move CamJo to them since Ingles likely will be cheaper.
I stand with, let's just ride this season out and make a bigger move this offseason if need be.

I wouldn't move CamJo for him, or even Crowder. And I really like Ingles. I think he's pretty good.

But they will get better offers than something like Saric (why would they even want him?), Jalen Smith, a future first or very late 2nd, etc.

But they will get better offers than something like Saric (why would they even want him?), Jalen Smith, a future first or very late 2nd, etc.

I agree! I don't necessarily think that they'd want Saric or see him as anything other than a salary match filler. That's why I included the first ( which I believe would have to be the 2024 or later) in that, it should carry solid value, As Paul would likely be gone along with Crowder too, So we'd be expected to slip a bit I'd think. So other teams might not view a pick in those future years as a late first at all?

But I expect they'd view the pick as something that they could package with some of their players ( Clarkson, etc) for a bigger upgrade perhaps?? Although as stated, I'd hate the idea of potentially helping a Western conference rival get better? Also, maybe they can view Saric as a potential Mehmet Okur 2.0 addition as a solid bench floor spacing big?

[NapoleonII]

I really don't see a huge gap in the front court anymore. CamJo is capable, Crowder is our guy, and even Kaminsky might have his spots if staggered with Ayton.

I'm predicting we make a small-splashy move toward a point guard. Elf ain't it. Front office might be thinking they need some insurance if CP3 goes down in the playoffs.

[Ghost of Kleine]

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NBA Trade Rumors: Jazz's Joe Ingles 'A Name to Watch' as Rival Execs Discuss Value

TYLER CONWAY
DECEMBER 24, 2021

The Utah Jazz may explore trading Joe Ingles ahead of the 2022 NBA trade deadline as they try to fortify their roster for a deep playoff push.

Zach Lowe of ESPN reported league executives have wondered what the Jazz could land by packaging Ingles and a first-round pick. The veteran forward is in the final year of his contract and has seen his numbers and role take a dip this season.

Ingles has a $13.0 cap hit this season, which is a relative bargain even in his slightly diminished state. It's difficult to envision what type of player the Jazz could land in that price range who would be more impactful during the postseason.

Utah is currently third in the Western Conference with a 22-9 record, but its focus is not on the regular season. The Donovan Mitchell-Rudy Gobert Jazz have consistently fallen short in the playoffs, having never gotten past the second round.

With Ingles standing out as more of a luxury than a vital piece at the moment, it's possible that the Jazz look for a player who breaks the mold in their steady offensive ecosystem. 

Should we have any interest in Ingles?? He's currently a 13 million expiring contract. So we could possibly clear that money off the books in such a deal. Ingles is a good ballhandler, passer, and three point shooter with a good IQ. He's basically a slightly smaller but more mobile version of Saric. Now he obviously could help as a floor spacer ( career 40% 3 pt shooter) and a really solid frontcourt ( at 6'8) playmaker at times. But I'm not sure aside from a first and a comparable salary what we could do for a trade. ALSO, I'm not too keen on possibly helping a conference rival. Unless they'd be willing to maybe take Saric's salary, looking towards next season with him having an impact for them then. But they get a first and maybe a Nader or Payton out of it??

But as a 13 million expiring, Should we consider trading for him somehow??

Ingles would mess with our defense too much. With Monty's system you need to be competent, no weak links in the chain. Our defense is ranked #2 in the league for a reason, hiding Ingles would switch up too much of what we do defensively for a couple of threes that CamJo (who needs MORE minutes anyways) would probably be capable of hitting anyways.

Am I missing something about Ingles? He seems like an okay playmaker, which might help. We're already ranked #4 in assists.

Am I missing something about Ingles? He seems like an okay playmaker, which might help. We're already ranked #4 in assists.

He's obviously sucky defensively, But is a solid ballhandling big ( is 6'8) considered a big man nowadays)?? He's basically a 40% three point shooter, and a good frontcourt playmaker/ passer. As an expiring, I thought he might be able to add more 3 point shooting and fTy frontcourt passing to our bench? And as an expiring contract, would help open up more cap space for our key signings this summer (same premise as Thad Young) but better 3 point shooting in contrast to Young's positional defense and worse shooting). Also given his playoff experience/ high IQ, I figured that he wouldn't be too much of a negative for us either, in certain matchups as a one season acquisition.

He'd basically be a slightly smaller, better ballhandling, better shooting, equally poor defensive version of Saric. Only without the additional year's salary in 2023.

[Ghost of Kleine]

For a good Christmas laugh, check the lakers board trade thread. Some dude is swearing that Lebron and trash for Book and Ayton.... IS GOOD FOR US!!!! LOl!!!

They've always been severely delusional and petulant, That's what makes them the FLAKERS!!!

[Frank Lee]

If it ain’t broke….

[Saberestar]

Xin Varlock (@XinNBA) Tweeted:
The NBA released its MVP ladder today (15 players), and all three of Chris Paul, Devin Booker, and Deandre Ayton are on it. No sign of Draymond Green or KAT.

The Suns should have three all-stars this year.
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Kind of surprised to see anyone other than Jokic 1st, especially Jokic at 3rd, though Curry is great. Probably because of each having the top seed.

Surprised CP3 is quite as high as he is though I think he deserves it. Also surprised Booker is the lowest ranked of our 3.

I think Jokic is currently the best player in the NBA. Someone told me last night he was having the best season of all time (or modern times with pace slower compared to the days of Wilt...but maybe better than that).

Then I'd say Curry, KD and Giannis, and it's close between those 3. Not sure who would be next. Embiid would probably be next. If Kawhi was healthy he'd probably be next. Luka and Lillard would be right there without their huge drop offs this season. George too. Kyrie as well. Our guys would be in the conversation after them normally but now perhaps after Embiid, along with guys like Butler, Lavine, Trae...all guys who are probably ahead of the Luka, Lillard, George group now.

I think with most improved, Garland has passed Miles Bridges as well.

IMO Curry and Antetokoumpo are better than him this season.

Curry absurd offense and shooting range and Anteto's two-way impact make them better than Jokic.

[Revived]

For a good Christmas laugh, check the lakers board trade thread. Some dude is swearing that Lebron and trash for Book and Ayton.... IS GOOD FOR US!!!! LOl!!!

We should feel thankful, just a yr or two they were offering Kuzma for Booker.

Even some extremely highly paid media “analysts” were recommending that trade.

So at least this is a step up from that lol.

[Fo-Real]

Maybe the front office thinks Saric is gonna be available late in the season and playoffs?

[Ghost of Kleine]

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[Mulhollanddrive]

Barnes for Shamet, Saric, 1st?

Paul, Booker, Bridges, Barnes, Ayton
Payne, Johnson, Crowder, McGee

Be interested in how we look with another shot creator.

[Bogyo]

Barnes for Shamet, Saric, 1st?

Paul, Booker, Bridges, Barnes, Ayton
Payne, Johnson, Crowder, McGee

Be interested in how we look with another shot creator.

Why would the Kings do that????

[Mulhollanddrive]

Is he worth that much more? He's an expiring next season and will be 30 years old on a rebuilding team.

[Ghost of Kleine]

Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) Tweeted:
The Bulls are waiving forward Alize Johnson, sources tell @TheAthletic @Stadium.

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Here we go!
We have serious issues with rebounding that must be addressed. But Monty and Jones seem adverse to adding more size or commiting to spending for a specialist type of player. So on the cheap and still only at 6'7, This kid is absolutely an ELITE REBOUNDER. He's also a high motor, constant energy dirtworker type with a nose for the ball that makes him a rebounding machine!!! And we should be able to add him for the absolute minimum. Maybe he could replace Hutchinson?? ** IF Hutchinson isn't ever going to actually play outside of the GLeague anyways?


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Chicago Bulls have an insanely efficient rebounder in Alize Johnson. ... Last season with the Nets, Johnson averaged 17.9 points per 36 minutes, 17.1 rebounds, 2.1 assists, 1.0 steals, and 1.0 blocks.Oct 7, 2021
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[Bogyo]

Is he worth that much more? He's an expiring next season and will be 30 years old on a rebuilding team.

Much? Not sure, but Shamet is not a very good contract by now, and he is a bench guard, which they already have more than they can use as they have Fox, Haliburton, Hield, Mitchell (and a couple of other youngish subs). Saric is almost a net negative by now, as he is not playing this year, and next year he is a smallball bench C as he was slow as hell before his year-long knee injury. The pick is somewhere below 25 - basically almost a second rounder, but you have to give out a guaranteed contract for those...
That package might get you a Craig if the Pacers blow it up, but not a 40% 3 point shooting strech 4 who averages 6.5 rebounds 2.5 assist and a steal with a 17 PER and is still in his prime. I'd be happy if we got Barnes for Shamet and Crowder and a pick - although I think most here would be opposed due to possible chemistry issues and bench guard issues - but I say winning would cure it all.
But hey it's the Kings - here is hoping they do something Kingsy.