Official NBA COVID Protocol thread (please read the OP)

[thelead]

By all available data Omicron is not dangerous to the overwhelming majority of people. Of the huge number of NBA players who have entered into health and safety protocols in the last week or so exactly none have reported significant symptoms. Everyone is getting Omicron, there is no stopping it, so just let the asymptomatic play. KAT's situation is horribly tragic, but its not statistically representative.

People are deluded into thinking taking a basketball player off the court is gonna stop this onslaught from happening...The NBA worried about refs are people in the front rowing getting this. Have they read the news lately? Putting guys into protocol isn't stopping this fire from burning everything in its path. Pretty much every game from now until February will be glorified scrimmages.

I don't think anyone believes keeping them off the court will stop the pandemic. But I think you are forgetting that this is work for these guys. It doesn't matter where you work, when a colleague is exposed, they are asked not to come in for some time. It's the same courtesy being offered to the players. It's why the NBAPA also doesn't want this, not just the NBA.

BUT THEY’RE HERE TO ENTERTAIN ME! I DON’T CARE ABOUT THEIR FAMILIES!

^The sentiment of the selfish

[Bill Bradley]

Just look through the schedules of the games coming up...It's preposterous. Every team that gets tested regularly will have every single player get put into protocols. It's amazing to me that people still defend this. If what the NBA was doing was working, we wouldn't be discussing this.

People talk about last season being a farce, but at least there was real reason to be afraid and to be cautious. At this point the only way to be cautious is to not play. Because no matter how many people they sit, the others get it anyways. So again my point through all of this is, who are we saving? If you want to keep testing guys to give family members and people in the building a heads up on someone who has it? Fine, but to really think sitting him down will stop anybody from contracting omicron is absurd.

It was always a farce though. It’s just more are waking up to it now.

[Sharcm1]

Towns enters protocols. Ugh poor guy. Lost a his mom and others and now has it again. Smh with this

[danvato]

it's been about a week since I watched NBA

[Ben-N1ce]

[jayu70]

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[Zenzibar]

Why? These guys are around their teammates who are around their families. Imagine what KAT would feel like for example if you did that. Lowering the number of quarantine days is the right call.

By all available data Omicron is not dangerous to the overwhelming majority of people. Of the huge number of NBA players who have entered into health and safety protocols in the last week or so exactly none have reported significant symptoms. Everyone is getting Omicron, there is no stopping it, so just let the asymptomatic play. KAT's situation is horribly tragic, but its not statistically representative.

People are deluded into thinking taking a basketball player off the court is gonna stop this onslaught from happening...The NBA worried about refs are people in the front rowing getting this. Have they read the news lately? Putting guys into protocol isn't stopping this fire from burning everything in its path. Pretty much every game from now until February will be glorified scrimmages.

Unless you remove the vaccinated fans from the arenas, who are probably exasberating the spread and the NBA ain't doing that again.

But you know what, it's cool that alot of these players being signed get some run. Most look like thy're in great shape anyway. Also it lets teams play some of their reserves and a time to see what's there. It's all good, fk you gonna do.

[hippesthippo]

Anyone got an official number count of the players out due to covid reasons? Super curious on actual data.

[JujitsuFlip]

Anyone got an official number count of the players out due to covid reasons? Super curious on actual data.

108 players currently in protocols according to CBS NBA injury report, as of this posting.

[Richard4444]

Players that went in protocols past 3 weeks:

Blazers: Dennis Smith Jr, Robert Covington, Ben McLemore, and Keljin Blevins
Bucks: DiVincenzo*, Giannis*, Wesley Mathews*, Bobby*
Bulls: DeRozan*, Ayo*, Stanley Jonhson*, Derrick Jones*, Coby White*, Javonte Green*, Matt Thomas, Lavine*, Alize Jonson*, Troy Brown, McKinnie, Tony Bradley, Lonzo
Cavs: Okoro, Mobley, Allen, Lamar Stevens, Dylan Windler, Denzel Valentine*, RJ Nembhard, Ed Davis, Osman
Celtics: Jabari*, Grant Will, Horford*, Juancho*, Hauser, Bodric, Josh Richardson, Freedom, Aaron Nesmith, Bruno Fernando, Justin Jackson, Schroeder, C.J. Miles
Clippers: Ibaka*, Morris, Reggie Jackson, Scrubb
Hawks: Trae, Gallo, Capela*, Lou, Cabarrot, Huerter, Cooper, Onekya, Iwundu, Collins, Jalen Johnson
Hornets: LaMello*, Rozier*, PJ Washington, Mason*, Richards*, McDaniels*, Ish*, Cody Martin, Myles Bridges.
Kings: Bagley, TDavis, Fox, King, Len, Davion Mitchell, Queta
Knicks: Topin*, RJ*, Grimes*, Knox*, IQ*, Deuce, Noel
Lakers: THT*, Howard*, Bradley*, Nunn, Reaves, Monk*, Bazemore, Ariza, Rondo
Magic: Ignas, Bamba, Hampton, Ross, Mo Wagner, Mulder, Okeke, BJ Johnson
Mavs; J.Green*, Bullock, Kleber, Tim, Doncic, Burke
Memphis: Morant*, Ziaire Williams, Culver
Miami: Caleb Martin*, Lowry
Nets: Harden*, Milsap*, James Johnson*, Bruce Brown*, Bembry*, Carter*, Aldridge, KD, Irving, Sharpe, Cam Thomas, Kessler Edwards, David Duke
Nuggets: Bones*, Rivers*, Bol Bol, MPJ
Pelicans: NAW, Marshall,Alvarado
Pistons: Cade, McGruder, Hayes, Stewart, Lee, Lyles, Josh Jackson, Cory Joseph,
Raptors: Precious, Banton, Siakam, Trent, Fred, Flynn, Barnes, OG
Rockets: Augustin
Sixers: Embiid*, Harris*, Thybulle*, Joe, Niang*, Milton, Drummond, Green,
Spurs: Murray
Thunder: Bazley, Tre mann
Warriors: Poole, Wiggins, Lee, Moody
Wizards: Kuzma*, KCP, Beal
Wolves: Edwards, Prince, Okogie, Towns, McKinley Wright IV, Dlo, Reid
*Cured
Bold - update

[Slacktard]

Isn't the Celtics outbreak worse than the Bulls at this point? How the hell they not shut down?

[lakerz12]

Good thing everyone on the bench is wearing a mask though. It’s working great.

[garrick]

Really disappointing to see that letting asymptomatic players play is a "non-starter" with both the league and the NBAPA.

Having infected players breath heavily and shout during games is a really bad idea especially in a closed arena with recirculated air & it will just force teams to shut down and forfeit even more games.

While most players will recover fine some players might suffer really debilitating effects which the league should not roll the dice on expecting natural immunity to protect players from any severe side effects.

[SK21209]

Really disappointing to see that letting asymptomatic players play is a "non-starter" with both the league and the NBAPA.

Having infected players breath heavily and shout during games is a really bad idea especially in a closed arena with recirculated air & it will just force teams to shut down and forfeit even more games.

While most players will recover fine some players might suffer really debilitating effects which the league should not roll the dice on expecting natural immunity to protect players from any severe side effects.

Look at the Omicron data that’s been collected, it’s a cold at worst for the vast, overwhelming majority of people let alone professional athletes. Half the league had entered COVID protocols in the last couple of weeks and exactly zero players have reported severe symptoms. Omicron has spreading in workplaces for a couple of weeks now and it has been fine. You’re not “rolling the dice” with anything, the percentages are on your side.

[FNQ]

Really disappointing to see that letting asymptomatic players play is a "non-starter" with both the league and the NBAPA.

Having infected players breath heavily and shout during games is a really bad idea especially in a closed arena with recirculated air & it will just force teams to shut down and forfeit even more games.

While most players will recover fine some players might suffer really debilitating effects which the league should not roll the dice on expecting natural immunity to protect players from any severe side effects.

Look at the Omicron data that’s been collected, it’s a cold at worst for the vast, overwhelming majority of people let alone professional athletes. Half the league had entered COVID protocols in the last couple of weeks and exactly zero players have reported severe symptoms. Omicron has spreading in workplaces for a couple of weeks now and it has been fine. You’re not “rolling the dice” with anything, the percentages are on your side.

And this take, and others like it, is exactly why you don't have non-experts making the decisions.

The caution is not about the worry that Omicron itself will wreak havoc.

The caution is that since the Alpha (initial) variant, we've seen one that was stronger (Delta) and we've seen one that has a very, very high transmissibility. And with anything that's highly transmissible, this increases the likelihood of future mutations. If the next variant trades off some of its transmissibility for strength, it could be devastating. So efforts are in place to try and stop that from happening.

Until virologists can prove, or at least show evidence pointing to, Omicron being closer to the end-stage of the potent variants, caution should be exercised, and its great that despite pressure from the selfish, short-term thinking masses, they are still operating with said caution. That's exactly how it should be.

Evolution/mutation mapping has already begun so hopefully we'll start seeing clinical results soon. I can confirm that from a data science standpoint (data mapping/data tracking) that we're already moving past the strict analysis of Omicron and its effects, because as noted, the viral loads from most cases are significantly less than the Delta, and even Alpha, variants. But reasons for optimism shouldn't devolve into overconfidence from a lot of people who probably haven't even taken a biology course since HS (and while I'm quoting someone specifically, I'm saying this in general, not at any one person)

[michaelm]

Really disappointing to see that letting asymptomatic players play is a "non-starter" with both the league and the NBAPA.

Why? These guys are around their teammates who are around their families. Imagine what KAT would feel like for example if you did that. Lowering the number of quarantine days is the right call.

By all available data Omicron is not dangerous to the overwhelming majority of people. Of the huge number of NBA players who have entered into health and safety protocols in the last week or so exactly none have reported significant symptoms. Everyone is getting Omicron, there is no stopping it, so just let the asymptomatic play. KAT's situation is horribly tragic, but its not statistically representative.

I really hope this is the case with Omicron, but the problem as FNQ has said is that there isn’t enough available data on Omicron yet. There was a body of thought delta was less problematic initially.

[Bucksmaniac]

Having infected players breath heavily and shout during games is a really bad idea especially in a closed arena with recirculated air & it will just force teams to shut down and forfeit even more games.

While most players will recover fine some players might suffer really debilitating effects which the league should not roll the dice on expecting natural immunity to protect players from any severe side effects.

Look at the Omicron data that’s been collected, it’s a cold at worst for the vast, overwhelming majority of people let alone professional athletes. Half the league had entered COVID protocols in the last couple of weeks and exactly zero players have reported severe symptoms. Omicron has spreading in workplaces for a couple of weeks now and it has been fine. You’re not “rolling the dice” with anything, the percentages are on your side.

And this take, and others like it, is exactly why you don't have non-experts making the decisions.

The caution is not about the worry that Omicron itself will wreak havoc.

The caution is that since the Alpha (initial) variant, we've seen one that was stronger (Delta) and we've seen one that has a very, very high transmissibility. And with anything that's highly transmissible, this increases the likelihood of future mutations. If the next variant trades off some of its transmissibility for strength, it could be devastating. So efforts are in place to try and stop that from happening.

Until virologists can prove, or at least show evidence pointing to, Omicron being closer to the end-stage of the potent variants, caution should be exercised, and its great that despite pressure from the selfish, short-term thinking masses, they are still operating with said caution. That's exactly how it should be.

Evolution/mutation mapping has already begun so hopefully we'll start seeing clinical results soon. I can confirm that from a data science standpoint (data mapping/data tracking) that we're already moving past the strict analysis of Omicron and its effects, because as noted, the viral loads from most cases are significantly less than the Delta, and even Alpha, variants. But reasons for optimism shouldn't devolve into overconfidence from a lot of people who probably haven't even taken a biology course since HS (and while I'm quoting someone specifically, I'm saying this in general, not at any one person)

It’s not like these asymptomatic players will be constantly running into the stands and rubbing elbows with fans, it sounds like you’re mainly worried for the fans at a game in this case but it really is an overstated concern, if you’re at risk for a bad outcome then just don’t sit near the court at an NBA game.

[FNQ]

Look at the Omicron data that’s been collected, it’s a cold at worst for the vast, overwhelming majority of people let alone professional athletes. Half the league had entered COVID protocols in the last couple of weeks and exactly zero players have reported severe symptoms. Omicron has spreading in workplaces for a couple of weeks now and it has been fine. You’re not “rolling the dice” with anything, the percentages are on your side.

And this take, and others like it, is exactly why you don't have non-experts making the decisions.

The caution is not about the worry that Omicron itself will wreak havoc.

The caution is that since the Alpha (initial) variant, we've seen one that was stronger (Delta) and we've seen one that has a very, very high transmissibility. And with anything that's highly transmissible, this increases the likelihood of future mutations. If the next variant trades off some of its transmissibility for strength, it could be devastating. So efforts are in place to try and stop that from happening.

Until virologists can prove, or at least show evidence pointing to, Omicron being closer to the end-stage of the potent variants, caution should be exercised, and its great that despite pressure from the selfish, short-term thinking masses, they are still operating with said caution. That's exactly how it should be.

Evolution/mutation mapping has already begun so hopefully we'll start seeing clinical results soon. I can confirm that from a data science standpoint (data mapping/data tracking) that we're already moving past the strict analysis of Omicron and its effects, because as noted, the viral loads from most cases are significantly less than the Delta, and even Alpha, variants. But reasons for optimism shouldn't devolve into overconfidence from a lot of people who probably haven't even taken a biology course since HS (and while I'm quoting someone specifically, I'm saying this in general, not at any one person)

It’s not like these asymptomatic players will be constantly running into the stands and rubbing elbows with fans, it sounds like you’re mainly worried for the fans at a game in this case but it really is an overstated concern, if you’re at risk for a bad outcome then just don’t sit near the court at an NBA game.

You read what I wrote, and concluded that my main worry was about fans? How?

[Bucksmaniac]

And this take, and others like it, is exactly why you don't have non-experts making the decisions.

The caution is not about the worry that Omicron itself will wreak havoc.

The caution is that since the Alpha (initial) variant, we've seen one that was stronger (Delta) and we've seen one that has a very, very high transmissibility. And with anything that's highly transmissible, this increases the likelihood of future mutations. If the next variant trades off some of its transmissibility for strength, it could be devastating. So efforts are in place to try and stop that from happening.

Until virologists can prove, or at least show evidence pointing to, Omicron being closer to the end-stage of the potent variants, caution should be exercised, and its great that despite pressure from the selfish, short-term thinking masses, they are still operating with said caution. That's exactly how it should be.

Evolution/mutation mapping has already begun so hopefully we'll start seeing clinical results soon. I can confirm that from a data science standpoint (data mapping/data tracking) that we're already moving past the strict analysis of Omicron and its effects, because as noted, the viral loads from most cases are significantly less than the Delta, and even Alpha, variants. But reasons for optimism shouldn't devolve into overconfidence from a lot of people who probably haven't even taken a biology course since HS (and while I'm quoting someone specifically, I'm saying this in general, not at any one person)

It’s not like these asymptomatic players will be constantly running into the stands and rubbing elbows with fans, it sounds like you’re mainly worried for the fans at a game in this case but it really is an overstated concern, if you’re at risk for a bad outcome then just don’t sit near the court at an NBA game.

You read what I wrote, and concluded that my main worry was about fans? How?

This has already spread to entire teams even despite efforts to quarantine even asymptomatic positives, so not sure why else you’d be worried about asymptomatic vaccinated players playing other than spreading to those throughout the arenas.

[BigDan245]

Tony Bradley and Alfonzo McKinnie have now tested positive...Is Lonzo Ball the only Bulls player that hasn't gotten it?