LeBron: I think Westbrook's decision-making was SPECTACULAR tonight

Moderators: Clav, Domejandro, ken6199, bisme37, Dirk, KingDavid, cupcakesnake, bwgood77, zimpy27, infinite11285

lakerz12
Head Coach
Posts: 7,496
And1: 9,063
Joined: Jan 29, 2006
Contact:
     

Re: LeBron: I think Westbrook's decision-making was SPECTACULAR tonight 

Post#21 » by lakerz12 » Mon Dec 27, 2021 1:25 am

Hoop Heavy wrote:
lakerz12 wrote:May I recommend a Laker super thread?



May I recommend a "Lakers super thread" on the Lakers board - where this non-interesting thread should also be!


That might work except it’s mostly non-Laker fans that love talking about the Lakers.
Hoop Heavy
Rookie
Posts: 1,205
And1: 604
Joined: Sep 05, 2020

Re: LeBron: I think Westbrook's decision-making was SPECTACULAR tonight 

Post#22 » by Hoop Heavy » Mon Dec 27, 2021 1:34 am

lakerz12 wrote:
Hoop Heavy wrote:
lakerz12 wrote:May I recommend a Laker super thread?



May I recommend a "Lakers super thread" on the Lakers board - where this non-interesting thread should also be!


That might work except it’s mostly non-Laker fans that love talking about the Lakers.


Its okay ... if people want to troll the Lakers ... that's what their team board is for. It's just too much daily garbage on the general board ... "Hey THT made a shot ... we've entered a new era of WoW!" Not worthy of the GB
kenwood3333
Lead Assistant
Posts: 4,667
And1: 3,655
Joined: Dec 10, 2013

Re: LeBron: I think Westbrook's decision-making was SPECTACULAR tonight 

Post#23 » by kenwood3333 » Mon Dec 27, 2021 1:35 am

LeBron needs more help
The4thHorseman
General Manager
Posts: 9,197
And1: 5,768
Joined: Jun 18, 2011

Re: LeBron: I think Westbrook's decision-making was SPECTACULAR tonight 

Post#24 » by The4thHorseman » Mon Dec 27, 2021 1:40 am

og15 wrote:
The4thHorseman wrote:LeBron talks good on a teammate, but gets ridiculed and accused of lying.

If he said that Russ had a bad game or needs to play better, then it's him throwing his teammate under the bus.

Just another example of a no win situation with LeBron.

In general for players, these kinds of questions aren't worth answering, or if they do, with some generic type answer. It's not specific to LeBron

I realize it's not specific to him, but I highly doubt if Donovan Mitchell said the same about Gobert after having a bad game, a thread would be started making a BFD about it. There's really no bad time to talk positives about a teammates performance.
MavsDirk41 wrote:

Utah was a dynasty in the 90s
Blazers had a mini dynasty late 80s early 90s
poultryfan
Senior
Posts: 727
And1: 875
Joined: Feb 20, 2016

Re: LeBron: I think Westbrook's decision-making was SPECTACULAR tonight 

Post#25 » by poultryfan » Mon Dec 27, 2021 1:41 am

Savvy move not publicly throwing his teammate under the bus.

LeLeader
og15
Forum Mod - Clippers
Forum Mod - Clippers
Posts: 51,248
And1: 34,067
Joined: Jun 23, 2004
Location: NBA Fan
 

Re: LeBron: I think Westbrook's decision-making was SPECTACULAR tonight 

Post#26 » by og15 » Mon Dec 27, 2021 1:50 am

The4thHorseman wrote:
og15 wrote:
The4thHorseman wrote:LeBron talks good on a teammate, but gets ridiculed and accused of lying.

If he said that Russ had a bad game or needs to play better, then it's him throwing his teammate under the bus.

Just another example of a no win situation with LeBron.

In general for players, these kinds of questions aren't worth answering, or if they do, with some generic type answer. It's not specific to LeBron

I realize it's not specific to him, but I highly doubt if Donovan Mitchell said the same about Gobert after having a bad game, a thread would be started making a BFD about it. There's really no bad time to talk positives about a teammates performance.

Depends on the context though. People see Westbrook as a poor decision maker, they also saw that he had a 4/20 game, so LeBron saying he made spectacular decisions is more interesting in that context.

So you would need to think of the equivalent situation for Gobert. I can't really think of one that compares. A totally wild one would be like Gobert attempting 4 3PA, shooting 0/4 and Mitchell asked what did you think about his game, and he says his shot selection was good. That's a little more wild, but something like that.
User avatar
KingFox
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,147
And1: 5,334
Joined: Dec 23, 2014
 

Re: LeBron: I think Westbrook's decision-making was SPECTACULAR tonight 

Post#27 » by KingFox » Mon Dec 27, 2021 1:58 am

Lmaooooo spectacular. I think the Sacramento Kings are spectacular too, Lebron. I feel ya!
User avatar
KingFox
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,147
And1: 5,334
Joined: Dec 23, 2014
 

Re: LeBron: I think Westbrook's decision-making was SPECTACULAR tonight 

Post#28 » by KingFox » Mon Dec 27, 2021 2:30 am

His turnovers and decision making have been embarrassingly bad and there’s no way around it. He’s far from being their biggest problem though. If AD gave even 70% of the effort he put forth in New Orleans, they’d be 6 or 7 games above .500 right now and in decent shape, even without him for the next few weeks. If he isn’t right or mentally in it all the way, there’s nothing that can save this team or get them a title.

AD has the most value outside of Lebron and that’s who I’d be quietly looking to move in the off-season.
trickshot
Head Coach
Posts: 6,840
And1: 7,542
Joined: Feb 27, 2012

Re: LeBron: I think Westbrook's decision-making was SPECTACULAR tonight 

Post#29 » by trickshot » Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:35 am

zimpy27 wrote:LeBron always backs his teammates openly.

I think Russ was playing great other than that lapse in judgement defensively on Patty Mills at the end.

Russ missed so many ways hot around the rim last night, he needs to work on that but if he just makes 2 of the 10 he missed then Lakers win.

He was 5/19. Even by Russ's already paltry efficiency standards that isn't playing great, not even okay. How do you go 5/20 while being left wide open all game? Bro, this is lowkey amazing to be this inefficient. He's like an anti-curry in gravity and shotmaking.
canada_dry
General Manager
Posts: 9,105
And1: 7,138
Joined: Aug 22, 2017

Re: LeBron: I think Westbrook's decision-making was SPECTACULAR tonight 

Post#30 » by canada_dry » Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:58 am

og15 wrote:In the 15 games before last night, Westbrook was shooting 50% FG / 36% 3PT, his eFG was 53.5% and TS% was 56.4% TS.

Now, he's more one game 60%+ TS, next game 50% or under TS, so either on or well below average, but he wasn't having tragic games shooting wise (had turnover ones), which is what you want to avoid with his efficiency.

In light of that, if we're simply talking about shooting efficiency, it wouldn't make sense for LeBron to criticize him having one awful shooting game. He only had 3 turnovers, some of his misses were ones you don't expect to miss. The dunk miss, I know how that feels, it's the play you would have made two years ago and you can still get up there, but not quite as up there, but you still feel like you can. I actually didn't really mind that missed dunk, going strong like that is a good decision, his body just didn't cooperate all the way.
The fact that in a game with the "big game" feel he reverts to ineffecient and turnover prone is supposed to be lost on us? Good luck in the playoffs.

Sent from my SM-G960W using RealGM mobile app
OriginalRed
Starter
Posts: 2,281
And1: 3,482
Joined: Mar 16, 2017
Contact:
         

Re: LeBron: I think Westbrook's decision-making was SPECTACULAR tonight 

Post#31 » by OriginalRed » Mon Dec 27, 2021 5:00 am

Of course he has to say that. He pushed the Lakers to sign for him so if he calls him out, it'd be like admitting he **** up wanting him on his team. Behind closed doors of course, you already know Lebron, Rich Paul, and Pelinka have been playing with the NBA Trade Simulator to find a way to out of his contract.
User avatar
Ito
General Manager
Posts: 9,552
And1: 991
Joined: Apr 13, 2002
Location: UPTOWN, NY

Re: LeBron: I think Westbrook's decision-making was SPECTACULAR tonight 

Post#32 » by Ito » Mon Dec 27, 2021 5:09 am

Lakers problem is not Westbrook… they have to get rid of melo if they want to save the season.. when wade was on the Lakers he left because things weren’t gon work out Melo doesn’t have that type of personality
Image
God Squad
RealGM
Posts: 13,372
And1: 11,631
Joined: Feb 22, 2010
Location: Toronto
   

Re: LeBron: I think Westbrook's decision-making was SPECTACULAR tonight 

Post#33 » by God Squad » Mon Dec 27, 2021 5:18 am

Who didn't see this coming? Westbrook was never a good fit in LA.
User avatar
zimpy27
Forum Mod
Forum Mod
Posts: 45,789
And1: 44,048
Joined: Jul 13, 2014

Re: LeBron: I think Westbrook's decision-making was SPECTACULAR tonight 

Post#34 » by zimpy27 » Mon Dec 27, 2021 5:18 am

donnieme wrote:
zimpy27 wrote:LeBron always backs his teammates openly.

I think Russ was playing great other than that lapse in judgement defensively on Patty Mills at the end.

Russ missed so many ways hot around the rim last night, he needs to work on that but if he just makes 2 of the 10 he missed then Lakers win.

He was 5/19. Even by Russ's already paltry efficiency standards that isn't playing great, not even okay. How do you go 5/20 while being left wide open all game? Bro, this is lowkey amazing to be this inefficient. He's like an anti-curry in gravity and shotmaking.


Yeah the shots didn't go down. He was off badly but he's not usually that bad.. he's had a ts% of above 56% for the 22 games prior to that one. In that game he was at 28%. Pretty much half.

I don't know if that made him bad. His decisions were ok, not great but ok, his shot was off. In combination it hurt the team. If he was even just average he would have scored 26 points instead of 13 of those FGA. 13 more points would have given Lakers a comfortable win
"Let's play some basketball!" - Fergie
poultryfan
Senior
Posts: 727
And1: 875
Joined: Feb 20, 2016

Re: LeBron: I think Westbrook's decision-making was SPECTACULAR tonight 

Post#35 » by poultryfan » Mon Dec 27, 2021 5:22 am

Ito wrote:Lakers problem is not Westbrook… they have to get rid of melo if they want to save the season.. when wade was on the Lakers he left because things weren’t gon work out Melo doesn’t have that type of personality

Hotheadedness and douchebaggery aside, Carmelo's actually playing pretty well this year. At least better than Westbrook for sure.

Not that it really matters much. This season doesn't look salvageable for them anyways. 34 games in with a -3.00 SRS and your 2nd best player is out for at least 1-2 months? That's a wrap man.
og15
Forum Mod - Clippers
Forum Mod - Clippers
Posts: 51,248
And1: 34,067
Joined: Jun 23, 2004
Location: NBA Fan
 

Re: LeBron: I think Westbrook's decision-making was SPECTACULAR tonight 

Post#36 » by og15 » Mon Dec 27, 2021 5:40 am

canada_dry wrote:
og15 wrote:In the 15 games before last night, Westbrook was shooting 50% FG / 36% 3PT, his eFG was 53.5% and TS% was 56.4% TS.

Now, he's more one game 60%+ TS, next game 50% or under TS, so either on or well below average, but he wasn't having tragic games shooting wise (had turnover ones), which is what you want to avoid with his efficiency.

In light of that, if we're simply talking about shooting efficiency, it wouldn't make sense for LeBron to criticize him having one awful shooting game. He only had 3 turnovers, some of his misses were ones you don't expect to miss. The dunk miss, I know how that feels, it's the play you would have made two years ago and you can still get up there, but not quite as up there, but you still feel like you can. I actually didn't really mind that missed dunk, going strong like that is a good decision, his body just didn't cooperate all the way.
The fact that in a game with the "big game" feel he reverts to ineffecient and turnover prone is supposed to be lost on us? Good luck in the playoffs.

Sent from my SM-G960W using RealGM mobile app

I don't have any desire for the Lakers to succeed in the playoffs. I've also previously maintained that due to durability and his motor, Russ is a solid regular season player, but against more focused playoff defenses, Russ is not the most reliable guy.
User avatar
floppymoose
Senior Mod - Warriors
Senior Mod - Warriors
Posts: 59,418
And1: 17,543
Joined: Jun 22, 2003
Location: Trust your election workers

Re: LeBron: I think Westbrook's decision-making was SPECTACULAR tonight 

Post#37 » by floppymoose » Mon Dec 27, 2021 5:53 am

donnieme wrote:We're going to see all of the stages of grief from now till the inevitable playoff disaster.

Image
canada_dry
General Manager
Posts: 9,105
And1: 7,138
Joined: Aug 22, 2017

Re: LeBron: I think Westbrook's decision-making was SPECTACULAR tonight 

Post#38 » by canada_dry » Mon Dec 27, 2021 5:57 am

og15 wrote:
canada_dry wrote:
og15 wrote:In the 15 games before last night, Westbrook was shooting 50% FG / 36% 3PT, his eFG was 53.5% and TS% was 56.4% TS.

Now, he's more one game 60%+ TS, next game 50% or under TS, so either on or well below average, but he wasn't having tragic games shooting wise (had turnover ones), which is what you want to avoid with his efficiency.

In light of that, if we're simply talking about shooting efficiency, it wouldn't make sense for LeBron to criticize him having one awful shooting game. He only had 3 turnovers, some of his misses were ones you don't expect to miss. The dunk miss, I know how that feels, it's the play you would have made two years ago and you can still get up there, but not quite as up there, but you still feel like you can. I actually didn't really mind that missed dunk, going strong like that is a good decision, his body just didn't cooperate all the way.
The fact that in a game with the "big game" feel he reverts to ineffecient and turnover prone is supposed to be lost on us? Good luck in the playoffs.

Sent from my SM-G960W using RealGM mobile app

I don't have any desire for the Lakers to succeed in the playoffs. I've also previously maintained that due to durability and his motor, Russ is a solid regular season player, but against more focused playoff defenses, Russ is not the most reliable guy.
Right, but thats the point, no?

Sent from my SM-G960W using RealGM mobile app
righterwriter
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,835
And1: 5,612
Joined: Apr 30, 2013
     

Re: LeBron: I think Westbrook's decision-making was SPECTACULAR tonight 

Post#39 » by righterwriter » Mon Dec 27, 2021 6:38 am

Masai4PM wrote:And if he said the opposite the masses would call for his head being a bad teammate, there is no winning.


He could've said "The result of any outcome is more than just one player's performance. We win as a team and lose as a team. We'll come together next game and try to do better."

In other words, give a non-answer.

That's a lot better than lying about Westbrook playing good, which just makes Lebron look stupid and/or disingenuous.
Ugly0598
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,811
And1: 3,198
Joined: Mar 21, 2011
     

Re: LeBron: I think Westbrook's decision-making was SPECTACULAR tonight 

Post#40 » by Ugly0598 » Mon Dec 27, 2021 6:42 am

floppymoose wrote:
donnieme wrote:We're going to see all of the stages of grief from now till the inevitable playoff disaster.

Image


Yeah, I just hope they win a game too.

Return to The General Board