Game 15: Browns at Pack - 3:30 - Fox

[MickeyDavis]

Thankfully Amazon prime video let me switch announcers. That’s worth the price of Amazon Prime alone.

To who instead


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They had two other options to pick from. I have no clue who they were, but they weren't Troy and Buck. That is all I cared about.

I watched part of a Thursday night game on Prime a few weeks ago but was unable to pause or rewind. Is there a way to do that I'm unaware of? Next year Thursday nights will be Prime only. And I don't think you can record games either. Often with non Packer Thursday night games I'll record and start watching 30-45 minutes in so I can skip the commercials

[Treebeard]

I flip on the radio call for all the Fox coverage teams. Aikman and Buck are the worst, but the others are not bearable either.

Larravee does real good for the most part on the play-by-play and McCarren calls 'em down the middle on color. If a Packer screws up, McCarren calls him out and vice versa.

[MickeyDavis]

l like Packers radio but can't sync it up to TV

[Treebeard]

l like Packers radio but can't sync it up to TV

I only had one game earlier in the season where I ran into that problem.

(I'm an old cheapskate. I ditched cable four years ago and now I watch the NFL via over-the-air antenna - would there be a delay difference between either cable, streamed, or antenna signal transmission?)

[MickeyDavis]

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[ReasonablySober]

l like Packers radio but can't sync it up to TV

I only had one game earlier in the season where I ran into that problem.

(I'm an old cheapskate. I ditched cable four years ago and now I watch the NFL via over-the-air antenna - would there be a delay difference between either cable, streamed, or antenna signal transmission?)

The fastest streams will be

1 - Amazon
2 - Over the Air
3 - Cable
4 - Legal streaming services
5 - Illegal streaming services (unless they're streaming the Amazon feed, which again, is the fastest)

[LikeABosh]

The d has looked pretty bad at times but 24 points in a game with +3 turnovers is mediocre as hell

We scored and iced the game for all those turnovers tho. Says more about the defense that they managed 4 interceptions and 5 sacks but the Browns still managed to score 3 TD's and a FG on only 9 real drives. Should've been a dominant defensive game where they get held to 10 points

Only complaint about the offense was the b2b 3 and outs that barely burned anytime. But that's the margin between pretty good and elite. Just one more decent drive and we could've all fell asleep from the Christmas ham

[Profound23]

The d has looked pretty bad at times but 24 points in a game with +3 turnovers is mediocre as hell

We scored and iced the game for all those turnovers tho. Says more about the defense that they managed 4 interceptions and 5 sacks but the Browns still managed to score 3 TD's and a FG on only 9 real drives. Should've been a dominant defensive game where they get held to 10 points

Only complaint about the offense was the b2b 3 and outs that barely burned anytime. But that's the margin between pretty good and elite. Just one more decent drive and we could've all fell asleep from the Christmas ham

Our dbs are doing a great job of jumping routes, but if they jump too early it leaves deeper throws wide open.

Our dline does a great job of getting pressure, but they cheat inside too much which leaves wide open running lanes.


Take the good, take the bad, and there you have the facts of life.

[rilamann]

I like that we play the night game next Sunday. The Cowboys will have played 2 games between now and when our game kicks off next week, so we might know going into our game if we can clinch the #1 seed with a win and use week 18 as an extra bye week. Of if we lose to the Vikings still have a shot at the #1 seed.

I have a feeling Dallas loses 1 more game. They will probably destroy Washington today but I could see them losing 1 of Arizona or Philly. Arizona is kind of due for a win, the game is @Dallas but I can't see Arizona losing 4 in a row after starting 10-2. Arizona kind of looks like they've fallen apart though. Dallas is @Philly week 18 and there's a good chance that could be a win or go home scenario for the Eagles, plus you have the rivalry factor and even if Philly can't get a wild card they can still play spoiler.

[CWoodfan]

Got to admit that Barry had me fooled there for a few weeks and I started thinking that inferior defensive coordinating by Capers-Pettine may have been the primary explanation for so many years of poor to mediocre defensive play in Green Bay.

Alas, the Pack are now back to their familiar place outside the top 10 when it comes to scoring defense (a place no Super Bowl Champion has been in a long time), so got to think that relying upon Lowry, Lancaster, Keke and a collection of other JAGs along the Dline may indeed be the most important factor.

If Jaire is able to make it back, it will be possible to hid Sullivan, but there does not seem to be any hope for the Dline ... yet again.

[LikeABosh]

Got to admit that Barry had me fooled there for a few weeks and I started thinking that inferior defensive coordinating by Capers-Pettine may have been the primary explanation for so many years of poor to mediocre defensive play in Green Bay.

Alas, the Pack are now back to their familiar place outside the top 10 when it comes to scoring defense (a place no Super Bowl Champion has been in a long time), so got to think that relying upon Lowry, Lancaster, Keke and a collection of other JAGs along the Dline may indeed be the most important factor.

If Jaire is able to make it back, it will be possible to hid Sullivan, but there does not seem to be any hope for the Dline ... yet again.

Pretty meaningless this year. Almost all of the playoff teams are in the 20-22 ppg range. Bucs, Packers, Rams, Titans, Cowboys, Chiefs, Colts, Ravens, Bengals, 49ers. The difference between 3rd and 4th is bigger than the difference between 4th and 21st. So odds are you're gonna have an unremarkable scoring defense win the super bowl

[PintSizedBox10]

The GB defense is bottom 5 in both the red zone and on 3rd down. So situationally they're quite awful which the eye test confirms. Maybe they'll pick it up in the playoffs but so far we've seen a steady decline as the season has progressed.

[HKPackFan]

Rodgers in an MVP race as well as a playoff #1 seed race.

Would love to see him with another 3td 0int performance with a W.

I'd say Rodgers closed the gap with Brady even more.

33/4 is a crazy Stat with Ws along the way and a #1 seed.

[HKPackFan]

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If you brought in the number one corner in FA and paid him a ton you would be happy of he's shutting down the best WR but not necessarily expecting him to seal games week after week.

His production and impact are off the charts.

[CWoodfan]

The GB defense is bottom 5 in both the red zone and on 3rd down. So situationally they're quite awful which the eye test confirms. Maybe they'll pick it up in the playoffs but so far we've seen a steady decline as the season has progressed.

Bottom 3 PFF scores from yesterday against the Browns.

1. LB Krys Barnes, 30.1
2. OLB Tipa Galeai, 33.8
3. DL Tyler Lancaster, 47.6

Barnes allowed a team-high six catches for 77 yards into his coverage, and he received poor grades against the run over 36 total snaps.

Lancaster didn’t have a pressure and struggled to hold the point of attack against the run over 34 snaps.

https://packerswire.usatoday.com/lists/packers-pff-grades-best-worst-players-from-week-16-vs-browns/

Barnes is a starter who has graded out poorly on PFF all season - even though Campbell has graded out well.

And Lancaster, who has been a prominent member of the defensive line for 4 seasons now, not only has graded out poorly in 2021 but was a liability in the last 2 playoff losses.

Top flight offenses know how to expose UDFA JAGs like Barnes and Lancaster in the playoffs. There is less room to hide them.

Look for Dak or Brady to also target Sullivan and or Black if Jaire is unable to return and relegate them to the bench.

The Pack's D looks primed to yet again give up 30+ points in the playoffs.

[HKPackFan]

My hope is jaire/stokes/rasul reduces the number of snaps black and Sullivan play.

Was Dean Lowry out? Did Lancaster take his snaps?

If z and Dean play more snaps maybe it reduces Lancaster.

It's definitely good points. There are a couple weak links on D u hope u can reduce those guys snaps if guys come back healthy.

[M-C-G]

The Pack's D looks primed to yet again give up 30+ points in the playoffs.

Honestly, if anyone would have said at the beginning of the season that we wouldn't have Zaire and Z'Darius pretty much all season and this is where our defense would be, we'd be stoked.

Not to mention a few games (I think) without Clark, that puts us down pretty much our three best defenders. Hopefully we have some help on the way, but really hard for me to look at the number of turnovers the D has put up this year and pout about it, they have literally been winning and sealing games.

[M-C-G]

Also, for all the doom and gloom on the defense we are #13 in fewest points against, #13 in fewest yards against, #26 in passing TD but given the health of our secondary I guess I am not surprised, #10 in fewest rushing TD, #4 in INT and #10 in Fumbles.

Just get two difference makers back and this team is easily a top 10 defense.

[Daver]

Run defense needs to improve, fast. Some questionable play-calling in the 4th as well.

Isnt that a given with MLF that what seems like ever damn game we question his 2nd half play calling cards bungels niners ravens browns list goes on.Think he would of learned from that ship debacle last year

[Daver]

The d has looked pretty bad at times but 24 points in a game with +3 turnovers is mediocre as hell

We scored and iced the game for all those turnovers tho. Says more about the defense that they managed 4 interceptions and 5 sacks but the Browns still managed to score 3 TD's and a FG on only 9 real drives. Should've been a dominant defensive game where they get held to 10 points

Only complaint about the offense was the b2b 3 and outs that barely burned anytime. But that's the margin between pretty good and elite. Just one more decent drive and we could've all fell asleep from the Christmas ham

Adams catches that pass n the gane is iced