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Re: Build Your Realistic Team - Draft started: #133 confucius
LA Bird picks Cody Martin.
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Re: Build Your Realistic Team - Draft started: #131 Dr Positivity
I pick Marcus Morris.
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Re: Build Your Realistic Team - Draft started: #133 confucius
I'll take one of the best defensive big men in the league, Mitchell Robinson


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Re: Build Your Realistic Team - Draft started: #133 confucius
I am not understanding, who picked Trez?Stan wrote:
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You are several picks down the road, hence someone can take him from you.
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My bad guys, someone quoted me this morning and since I was too busy at work to check I just assumed it was my pick lol. Obv someone can take Trez if they want and I'll pick someone else
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I'm genuinely confused as to what is going on after the Trezz selection. But, because I am up, the team I represent selects...

Isaiah Stewart, one of the best young, defensive bigs in the NBA! Welcome to the squad, Beef Stew!

Isaiah Stewart, one of the best young, defensive bigs in the NBA! Welcome to the squad, Beef Stew!
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Ok Stan took Trez, next is
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Re: Build Your Realistic Team - Draft started: #158 Dr Positivity
Seems like a decent pick for the Knicks for once - Obi Toppin
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Herbert Jones played in 31 of 34 games for the Pelicans this season and started 22 of them. Yet it is the first time I recall hearing his name. Maybe I'm a lot more casual than I thought lol.
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You are on the clock.
Will this be the last pick or will we run 12 rounds? Fwiw, Ryoga has edited the spreadsheet to add 2 more rounds.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1fkU_rulwQXdWx5RnN7p-50_CuaJfWwaRbAj06R51rz0/edit#gid=0
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Avery Bradley. If we're going farther, I'll pass on my picks.
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Re: Build Your Realistic Team - Draft started: #158 Dr Positivity
I've added a couple tabs to the spreadsheet. One showing players by Draft Year, the other by NBA team.
Some interesting objective features:
Drafts with most players chosen:
1. 2015 - 20
2. 2018 - 19
3. 2014 - 14
(tie) 2016 - 14
(tie) 2017 - 14
This feels young to me than I was expecting, but it's not like I didn't pick a young team too. I wonder if we've got a bit of a future-oriented bias here.
All drafts back to 2003 had players drafted with 2004 (Iguodala) & 2005 (Paul) being the lone representatives for the least represented drafts.
Teams with most players chosen:
1. Golden State - 9 (noteworthy in that Klay Thompson not among them)
2. Memphis - 8
(tie) Utah - 8
4. Brooklyn - 7 (noteworthy in that Kyrie Irving not among them)
(tie) Charlotte - 7
(tie) Philadelphia - 7 (noteworthy in that Ben Simmons not among them)
(tie) Phoenix - 7
Teams with least players chosen:
1. Houston - 1 (noteworthy in that John Wall not among them)
2. Oklahoma City - 2
3. Detroit - 3
(tie) Indiana - 3
(tie) New Orleans - 3 (noteworthy in that Zion Williamson not among them)
Other injured/whatever players whose lack of play this season impacted their draft prospects:
Kawhi Leonard (injury)
Jamal Murray (injury)
Michael Porter Jr. (injury)
Some interesting objective features:
Drafts with most players chosen:
1. 2015 - 20
2. 2018 - 19
3. 2014 - 14
(tie) 2016 - 14
(tie) 2017 - 14
This feels young to me than I was expecting, but it's not like I didn't pick a young team too. I wonder if we've got a bit of a future-oriented bias here.
All drafts back to 2003 had players drafted with 2004 (Iguodala) & 2005 (Paul) being the lone representatives for the least represented drafts.
Teams with most players chosen:
1. Golden State - 9 (noteworthy in that Klay Thompson not among them)
2. Memphis - 8
(tie) Utah - 8
4. Brooklyn - 7 (noteworthy in that Kyrie Irving not among them)
(tie) Charlotte - 7
(tie) Philadelphia - 7 (noteworthy in that Ben Simmons not among them)
(tie) Phoenix - 7
Teams with least players chosen:
1. Houston - 1 (noteworthy in that John Wall not among them)
2. Oklahoma City - 2
3. Detroit - 3
(tie) Indiana - 3
(tie) New Orleans - 3 (noteworthy in that Zion Williamson not among them)
Other injured/whatever players whose lack of play this season impacted their draft prospects:
Kawhi Leonard (injury)
Jamal Murray (injury)
Michael Porter Jr. (injury)
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Doctor MJ wrote:I've added a couple tabs to the spreadsheet. One showing players by Draft Year, the other by NBA team.
Some interesting objective features:
Drafts with most players chosen:
1. 2015 - 20
2. 2018 - 19
3. 2014 - 14
(tie) 2016 - 14
(tie) 2017 - 14
This feels young to me than I was expecting, but it's not like I didn't pick a young team too. I wonder if we've got a bit of a future-oriented bias here.
All drafts back to 2003 had players drafted with 2004 (Iguodala) & 2005 (Paul) being the lone representatives for the least represented drafts.
Teams with most players chosen:
1. Golden State - 9 (noteworthy in that Klay Thompson not among them)
2. Memphis - 8
(tie) Utah - 8
4. Brooklyn - 7 (noteworthy in that Kyrie Irving not among them)
(tie) Charlotte - 7
(tie) Philadelphia - 7 (noteworthy in that Ben Simmons not among them)
(tie) Phoenix - 7
Teams with least players chosen:
1. Houston - 1 (noteworthy in that John Wall not among them)
2. Oklahoma City - 2
3. Detroit - 3
(tie) Indiana - 3
(tie) New Orleans - 3 (noteworthy in that Zion Williamson not among them)
Other injured/whatever players whose lack of play this season impacted their draft prospects:
Kawhi Leonard (injury)
Jamal Murray (injury)
Michael Porter Jr. (injury)
Must be a mistake for Houston. I remember both Wood and Eric Gordon
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Dutchball97 wrote:In last year's finals both the Bucks and Suns had 7 main rotation guys with 8 and 9 also providing like 10 mpg. Outside of that nobody played more than 10 minutes total over the entire series.
Sometimes there are teams who spread out those minutes the 8th and 9th man usually get over multiple players like the Heat in 2020 or the Warriors in 2019 so it isn't like going 12 deep is unheard of in the play-offs. It's just that drafting two more end of bench guys who some people might want to give like 5 mpg likely isn't going to have any meaningful impact on how we view these teams so I'd rather just move on to the voting.
This is my perspective as well.
The 12 man roster traditionally existed to provide cushioning to allow teams to get through the regular season - and the NBA has since gone beyond this any way.
Realistically, not that many players play crucial roles in the playoffs. To go back through the last decade of champs finding the number of guys who averaged 12 or more MPG:
2021 Bucks - 9
2020 Lakers - 9
2019 Raptors - 8
2018 Warriors - 8
2017 Warriors - 10
2016 Cavaliers - 9
2015 Warriors - 7
2014 Spurs - 9
2013 Heat - 10
2012 Heat - 8
Incidentally, folks may understandably chafe at me using the 12 MPG cut off. Here's how I see it:
1. The game is made up of four 12 minute quarters and starters traditionally play roughly the equivalent of 3 of those quarters. Seems the least arbitrary cut off I can make.
2. Realistically, when someone becomes critical to a playoff matchup they actually become a part of the preferred 5 man lineup, and I'd argue in a theoretical exercise like this, it's unrealistic to think that elevating someone from 3rd to 2nd string would be the thing that sways opinion. And when such players truly play in the preferred lineup, they play 24+ minutes which should generally be enough to make their playoff MPG average move past 12. If it doesn't, then we're probably talking about an injury situation, which we cannot realistically model in this exercise.
With all that said, I'd participate if people wanted to go further, but I'm already at a place where I'm just picking guys who I'm thinking primarily about practice culture rather than guys who can turn a series in place of players I picked over them.
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durantbird wrote:Must be a mistake for Houston. I remember both Wood and Eric Gordon
You're right. Fixed. Thanks durantbird!
I included Gordon on the first spreadsheet but must have made a missed placing him on the second.
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Doctor MJ wrote:I've added a couple tabs to the spreadsheet. One showing players by Draft Year, the other by NBA team.
Some interesting objective features:
Drafts with most players chosen:
1. 2015 - 20
2. 2018 - 19
3. 2014 - 14
(tie) 2016 - 14
(tie) 2017 - 14
This feels young to me than I was expecting, but it's not like I didn't pick a young team too. I wonder if we've got a bit of a future-oriented bias here.
All drafts back to 2003 had players drafted with 2004 (Iguodala) & 2005 (Paul) being the lone representatives for the least represented drafts.
Teams with most players chosen:
1. Golden State - 9 (noteworthy in that Klay Thompson not among them)
2. Memphis - 8
(tie) Utah - 8
4. Brooklyn - 7 (noteworthy in that Kyrie Irving not among them)
(tie) Charlotte - 7
(tie) Philadelphia - 7 (noteworthy in that Ben Simmons not among them)
(tie) Phoenix - 7
Teams with least players chosen:
1. Houston - 1 (noteworthy in that John Wall not among them)
2. Oklahoma City - 2
3. Detroit - 3
(tie) Indiana - 3
(tie) New Orleans - 3 (noteworthy in that Zion Williamson not among them)
Other injured/whatever players whose lack of play this season impacted their draft prospects:
Kawhi Leonard (injury)
Jamal Murray (injury)
Michael Porter Jr. (injury)
Ben Simmons got selected in the 4th round. Btw, John Wall was draft eligible. Was considering him with my last pick. Neither of them is injured. They just aren't playing.
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So are we officially done? Or continuing? (I'd love that, but realized not everyone are into it)
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Re: Build Your Realistic Team - Draft started: #158 Dr Positivity
Trez was perhaps the steal of the draft in round 10. Could be 6MOY. I'd have drafted him at least a couple rounds back but already had AD/Sabonis/Randle.
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6) He's a good mentor/locker room guy
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2) He can be traded later
3) It's only __% of the cap
4) The cap is going up
5) It's only __ years
6) He's a good mentor/locker room guy
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flaco wrote:Ben Simmons got selected in the 4th round. Btw, John Wall was draft eligible. Was considering him with my last pick. Neither of them is injured. They just aren't playing.
I stand corrected, and yeah that was correct in my spreadsheets, I just remembered wrong.
I do understand that none of John Wall, Ben Simmons, or Kyrie Irving are physically injured.
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