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[ShootingtheJ]

Was Otto Porter. What's Marvin up to?

Depending on if they like them, there’s a few scenarios that work based around Donte/Nwora/Hood or Semi to Portland for Covington and filler.

Is Covington even good. Don't think I'd trade Donte for such a inconsequential player

Your right, Covington isn't good. He has a reputation as a defender, but he's not a good isolation defender, which is what we need. He also has a $13 million contract, which makes Sakai matching tough

Watanabe is more productive in every phase of the game, has a minimum salary, and he's restricted after the season. He's stuck behind Siakim, Anunoby, and Barnes in Toronto, with draft steal Dalano Banton right behind him.

Too bad we didn't get Watanabe before his 26 point 13 rebound game yesterday.

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

Team is good now.

Jrue/Hill/Donte
Allen/Donte/Hill/Jrue
Mids/Donte/Jrue/Pat/Wes/Nwora
Giannis/Bobby/Pat/Wes/Mids/Nwora
Bobby/Giannis/Cousins (Brook)

how can giannis and bobby both start while at the same time be each others primary backup?

[flaco]

Here's a deal proposed by B/R I'd be happy with.

The Problem: The inability to replicate Brook Lopez's combo of shooting and interior defense

The Trade: Donte DiVincenzo and Semi Ojeleye to Orlando Magic for Mo Bamba

Bobby Portis is doing everything he can to make Bucks fans forget that Brook Lopez hasn't played since opening night due to a back problem that eventually demanded surgery. This is Portis' seventh NBA season, and he has never averaged more threes (1.9) or blocks (1.0), the two pillars of Lopez's unicorn skill set.

But there's usually a point of diminishing returns with Portis' defense, and his 6'10" frame doesn't always measure up to his matchup. Mo Bamba could, thanks to the 7-footer's 7'10" wingspan.

Bamba has yet to match the shooting success of Lopez or Portis, but the foundation is there for a rapid rise. His form looks good enough, and his perpetually improving free-throw percentage (now up to 72.0) should boost his confidence level.

Most importantly, he's firing 4.0 three-point attempts per game. That could be enough to pull defenders out to him and therefore away from Giannis Antetokounmpo's attack lanes.

As for the shot-blocking, Bamba brings every bit of the above-the-rim resistance you'd expect of a player with his dimensions. He's averaging 2.8 blocks per 36 minutes this season, which is actually the fewest of his four-year career.

The Magic might not view Bamba as a long-term keeper. He needs a new deal this summer, and they've already spent large on other young frontcourt pieces like Wendell Carter Jr. and Jonathan Isaac.

If Orlando can't see a future with Bamba, then it might rather have Donte DiVincenzo, who's more polished than the Magic's backcourt prospects but young enough to grow with them. Semi Ojeleye is here to make the money work unless the Magic see something in him that we're missing.

[SupremeHustle]

I love the chemistry on the current team and Donte is a big part of that but screw it, do that Bamba trade.

[LUKE23]

Bucks 14-2, +13.1 net rating with Jrue/Midds/GA. That net rating is better than any of the other contenders big 3, hopefully our supporting casts numbers will continue to look better as we finally get a relatively full team on the court.

[LuessiT]

I love the chemistry on the current team and Donte is a big part of that but screw it, do that Bamba trade.

I would only do that if we had a follow-up trade as in Brook for an expiring e.g. Thad Young. If Brook comes back, Bamba would be more surplus to requirements than Donte is now. And Donte is the more win now player this year.

[WRau1]

I'd wait until the deadline so we have a better understanding of our needs and who might be available via buyout. Thad Young could be bought out and he's the obvious perfect fit. I'd hold off on trying to trade DDV, I really like our guard rotation especially since we'll likely see BKN and one of GSW/PHX in the finals if we get there.

[MickeyDavis]

I moved the Tatum stuff to the ATL thread

[buckboy]

I just don't see any way Thad Young is bought out. I can't believe no one will offer them a 2nd and an expiring for him. Just to keep him away from everyone else.

[Bernman]

I also think we should be careful about dogmatism. Nwaba or Vanderbilt would be great even though they can't shoot, because they're unselfish and tough as nails, and would make us even more ferocious defensively. Remember also that better defense and better athletes means better capitalization on more transition opportunities.

Larry Nance Jr. would be an example of an attainable player who doesn't firmly fit the 3&d mold, but he's going to d up, rebound, and do the little things. Plus if he's on he can still shoot 3's well enough. May still be a threat. And he's not a chucker.

You get cost certainty of a cap # (9.7m) for an extra yr that's not burdensome. His salary actually goes down next year. What would you think of (maybe in a 3-way trade) DiVo + filler for Nance Jr.?

[Brewhoopfan]

I love the chemistry on the current team and Donte is a big part of that but screw it, do that Bamba trade.

I would only do that if we had a follow-up trade as in Brook for an expiring e.g. Thad Young. If Brook comes back, Bamba would be more surplus to requirements than Donte is now. And Donte is the more win now player this year.

Allen is shooting *only* 35% from 3 in December, so there's the reason not to like him I've been looking for. Allen, Semi, and Nwora for Bamba works. Something about Bamba doesn't pass the smell test, however. I like the idea of bringing him in for a year to learn behind (an eventually healthy) Brook before trusting him in a playoff role next year.

[raferfenix]

If the Bucks really think Lopez is coming back before the playoffs we don’t trade for Bamba.

[WRau1]

If the Bucks really think Lopez is coming back before the playoffs we don’t trade for Bamba.

I guess we'll find that out by January 15th - the last day teams can apply for a disabled player exception.

[ShootingtheJ]

If the Bucks really think Lopez is coming back before the playoffs we don’t trade for Bamba.

They won't either way. No room for slow centers versus Brooklyn or Golden State.

[LUKE23]

That is true, but Brook would be needed verses Miami, Philly, Utah, Phoenix, if we are looking at it that way. In a vacuum, I'd rather just stand pat assuming Lopez will be back at least a couple weeks prior to the playoffs, just not sure Bucks will know that by the deadline. But I love the switching ability we have on the perimeter with the current personnel.

That said, if Lopez can't come back, Cousins is likely easily played off the floor in many matchups, and we don't want Giannis putting up 30+ mpg at C in most scenarios. So I think we would need a fallback option in terms of bigs, even if it's just a defender who doesn't bring a ton else. Hell, I'm not sure if that player is even available.

[EastSideBucksFan]

That is true, but Brook would be needed verses Miami, Philly, Utah, Phoenix, if we are looking at it that way. In a vacuum, I'd rather just stand pat assuming Lopez will be back at least a couple weeks prior to the playoffs, just not sure Bucks will know that by the deadline. But I love the switching ability we have on the perimeter with the current personnel.

That said, if Lopez can't come back, Cousins is likely easily played off the floor in many matchups, and we don't want Giannis putting up 30+ mpg at C in most scenarios. So I think we would need a fallback option in terms of bigs, even if it's just a defender who doesn't bring a ton else. Hell, I'm not sure if that player is even available.

That's RoLo

Bucks just tell him to shave his head,
Brook watches from the locker room
teams are none the wiser en route to Bucks repeating.

[tydett]

Bucks need a player who plays within himself and is athletic enough to guard bigs but still can switch to the wings, all while not damaging the team on offense? They should go after that Draymond Green fella.

[ShootingtheJ]

That is true, but Brook would be needed verses Miami, Philly, Utah, Phoenix, if we are looking at it that way. In a vacuum, I'd rather just stand pat assuming Lopez will be back at least a couple weeks prior to the playoffs, just not sure Bucks will know that by the deadline. But I love the switching ability we have on the perimeter with the current personnel.

That said, if Lopez can't come back, Cousins is likely easily played off the floor in many matchups, and we don't want Giannis putting up 30+ mpg at C in most scenarios. So I think we would need a fallback option in terms of bigs, even if it's just a defender who doesn't bring a ton else. Hell, I'm not sure if that player is even available.

Bobby Portis is our starting center, and will continue to play big minutes. Also, we do want some Giannis at center minutes. It's a death lineup.

[DrWood]

I also think we should be careful about dogmatism. Nwaba or Vanderbilt would be great even though they can't shoot, because they're unselfish and tough as nails, and would make us even more ferocious defensively. Remember also that better defense and better athletes means better capitalization on more transition opportunities.

Larry Nance Jr. would be an example of an attainable player who doesn't firmly fit the 3&d mold, but he's going to d up, rebound, and do the little things. Plus if he's on he can still shoot 3's well enough. May still be a threat. And he's not a chucker.

You get cost certainty of a cap # (9.7m) for an extra yr that's not burdensome. His salary actually goes down next year. What would you think of (maybe in a 3-way trade) DiVo + filler for Nance Jr.?

There's reason to expect his 3% might increase (to career average or better), but most of his value on D is actually rebounding, and he doesn't do that so well anymore.
DDV is more valuable to the team, imo.

[Ayt]

I just don't see any way Thad Young is bought out. I can't believe no one will offer them a 2nd and an expiring for him. Just to keep him away from everyone else.

He makes 14M so it will be tough for a lot of teams to match that with expiring contracts.